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Éireann
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Lazy ass welfare queens punks!
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in our records you have been already nuked with the u.s.
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Don't feed the trolls.

American's and Canadians talk about changing things. Then we sit back and watch how real people go about making change.

If America could unite, in force, on just ONE single issue like they do in Europe - stand up and march in the streets everywhere, then perhaps something in America would change.
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Lazy ass welfare queens punks!
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in our records you have been already nuked with the u.s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27125285

Don't feed the trolls.

American's and Canadians talk about changing things. Then we sit back and watch how real people go about making change.

If America could unite, in force, on just ONE single issue like they do in Europe - stand up and march in the streets everywhere, then perhaps something in America would change.
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OWS was more ambitious than this in a way, they actually occupied space for an extended period. But it's fizzled.
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Agree with my american friend.

Splitting EU will not only benefit the south, but actually hit the north quite hard.
The South have also THE FOOD that Europe eats.

So, add hunger to the freezing winter and you will had plenty of mad vikings.
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The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
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Agree with my american friend.

Splitting EU will not only benefit the south, but actually hit the north quite hard.
The South have also THE FOOD that Europe eats.

So, add hunger to the freezing winter and you will had plenty of mad vikings.
 Quoting: recollector


The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
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That's in the short run.

In the longer run, they could produce milk, grain and meat in the south. But you cannot produce olives, strawberries, fish or good winter weather in the north.
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Agree with my american friend.

Splitting EU will not only benefit the south, but actually hit the north quite hard.
The South have also THE FOOD that Europe eats.

So, add hunger to the freezing winter and you will had plenty of mad vikings.
 Quoting: recollector


The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
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Yes but this was imposed on them since joining the Euro.

Their mistake was taking handouts instead of remaining sovereign.

Now you want the handouts back. Tough go away!!! just like they made the mistake of taking the handouts (from a moral perspective) you also made the mistake of giving it in the first place.
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Agree with my american friend.

Splitting EU will not only benefit the south, but actually hit the north quite hard.
The South have also THE FOOD that Europe eats.

So, add hunger to the freezing winter and you will had plenty of mad vikings.
 Quoting: recollector


The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331367


Yes but this was imposed on them since joining the Euro.

Their mistake was taking handouts instead of remaining sovereign.

Now you want the handouts back. Tough go away!!! just like they made the mistake of taking the handouts (from a moral perspective) you also made the mistake of giving it in the first place.
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Nothing was imposed.

They just can not compete (for various mostly cultural reasons) on a free market.

But do not worry, no more hand-outs in the future.
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Lazy ass welfare queens punks!
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in our records you have been already nuked with the u.s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27125285

Don't feed the trolls.

American's and Canadians talk about changing things. Then we sit back and watch how real people go about making change.

If America could unite, in force, on just ONE single issue like they do in Europe - stand up and march in the streets everywhere, then perhaps something in America would change.
 Quoting: Éireann


OWS was more ambitious than this in a way, they actually occupied space for an extended period. But it's fizzled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459

Thank goodness, in this case. OWS was misguided and infiltrated to the core. Now if just plain old Americans had gotten together back in 2008 before all of that TARP shit started, THEN maybe some real change would have happened on Wall Street and in the Banks. Bitching at the Bankers wasn't the way. Congress was the way and we should have all been standing there.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Agree with my american friend.

Splitting EU will not only benefit the south, but actually hit the north quite hard.
The South have also THE FOOD that Europe eats.

So, add hunger to the freezing winter and you will had plenty of mad vikings.
 Quoting: recollector


The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
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Austria's most famous exports:

Adolph Hitler

Arnold Schwarzenegger

dasbier

Seriously, southern Europe could grow it's own food, including milk, grains, and meat.

And northern Europe could certainly grow it's own supply of strawberries, olives in greenhouses.
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AFP: Reports suggest police have been injured in clashes at anti-austerity protests in Milan and Turin

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The next stage in Europe won't be these kind of strikes, it will be like what happened in the UK in the summer of 2011. Most people outside (and inside) the UK still don't realise what actually happened, why it happened, how close the authorities came to losing control nationwide and how vulnerable the entire edifice of civilisation and all of it's infrastructure was.

In a nutshell the 2011 disorder in the UK was younger people who basically just said a big fat "fuck it all".
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The next stage in Europe won't be these kind of strikes, it will be like what happened in the UK in the summer of 2011. Most people outside (and inside) the UK still don't realise what actually happened, why it happened, how close the authorities came to losing control nationwide and how vulnerable the entire edifice of civilisation and all of it's infrastructure was.

In a nutshell the 2011 disorder in the UK was younger people who basically just said a big fat "fuck it all".
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What happened in 2011 in UK was negros destroying stuff. Not enough of them in the South.
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i see the treacherous nazi police in europe are beating on peaceful protesters again,

time too give these elite loving cocksuckers a taste of their own medicine,fcuking filthy scumbags.
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Agree with my american friend.

Splitting EU will not only benefit the south, but actually hit the north quite hard.
The South have also THE FOOD that Europe eats.

So, add hunger to the freezing winter and you will had plenty of mad vikings.
 Quoting: recollector


The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331367


Yes but this was imposed on them since joining the Euro.

Their mistake was taking handouts instead of remaining sovereign.

Now you want the handouts back. Tough go away!!! just like they made the mistake of taking the handouts (from a moral perspective) you also made the mistake of giving it in the first place.
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Nothing was imposed.

They just can not compete (for various mostly cultural reasons) on a free market.

But do not worry, no more hand-outs in the future.
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You are so intertwined with the south that you cannot stop it... otherwise your banks will collapse.

You see the monster has been created by the whole of Europe signing up to this Euro...

You can blame this or that, but realise that once one of the Club meds says enough we are out (or a pushed out) then the dominoes will start to fall.

The beneficiaries of this? English pound/Americano Dollar.
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I don't think the EU will go officially kaput. But, looks like the Brits were smart not to have hooked up to the monetary union.
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in our records you have been already nuked with the u.s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27125285

Don't feed the trolls.

American's and Canadians talk about changing things. Then we sit back and watch how real people go about making change.

If America could unite, in force, on just ONE single issue like they do in Europe - stand up and march in the streets everywhere, then perhaps something in America would change.
 Quoting: Éireann


OWS was more ambitious than this in a way, they actually occupied space for an extended period. But it's fizzled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459

Thank goodness, in this case. OWS was misguided and infiltrated to the core. Now if just plain old Americans had gotten together back in 2008 before all of that TARP shit started, THEN maybe some real change would have happened on Wall Street and in the Banks. Bitching at the Bankers wasn't the way. Congress was the way and we should have all been standing there.
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If you mean, before the markets crashed, I'm not sure how an intervention could have worked even then. Bernanke was doing a series of moves from the Fed that were helpful to the banks, each one unpredictable and unprecedented by the Fed. As you know, the Fed is substantially independent from the political process.

Lots of people could see that shit was getting weird, enough to make a difference, but I think opportunities for peaceful change were carefully removed all along the way.
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The south is net importer, see EU statistics.

Milk, grains and meat are imported from the north up to one third.

Exports are stuff that is nice to have .. but i think we can all live without olives and strawberries.
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Yes but this was imposed on them since joining the Euro.

Their mistake was taking handouts instead of remaining sovereign.

Now you want the handouts back. Tough go away!!! just like they made the mistake of taking the handouts (from a moral perspective) you also made the mistake of giving it in the first place.
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Nothing was imposed.

They just can not compete (for various mostly cultural reasons) on a free market.

But do not worry, no more hand-outs in the future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331367


You are so intertwined with the south that you cannot stop it... otherwise your banks will collapse.

You see the monster has been created by the whole of Europe signing up to this Euro...

You can blame this or that, but realise that once one of the Club meds says enough we are out (or a pushed out) then the dominoes will start to fall.

The beneficiaries of this? English pound/Americano Dollar.
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Its better to get out now than to endlessly send taxpayer money into a black hole.

Every Northern European politican that doesnt get out of the Euro is a traitor and should be chased out of office.
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The next stage in Europe won't be these kind of strikes, it will be like what happened in the UK in the summer of 2011. Most people outside (and inside) the UK still don't realise what actually happened, why it happened, how close the authorities came to losing control nationwide and how vulnerable the entire edifice of civilisation and all of it's infrastructure was.

In a nutshell the 2011 disorder in the UK was younger people who basically just said a big fat "fuck it all".
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What happened in 2011 in UK was negros destroying stuff. Not enough of them in the South.
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Nope. Watch the footage; plenty of white people and Asians too.
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You are so intertwined with the south that you cannot stop it... otherwise your banks will collapse.

You see the monster has been created by the whole of Europe signing up to this Euro...

You can blame this or that, but realise that once one of the Club meds says enough we are out (or a pushed out) then the dominoes will start to fall.

The beneficiaries of this? English pound/Americano Dollar.
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That why "austerity" is demanded so harshly.

Because they will never get of the dole for themselves.

And the north can not kick them out .. as it would just be another great "blame the ugly germans" festivity.

No.

They have to leave for themselves, loud and proud (as always)

Seems to work fine so far.

Forget about the banks, the losses of an imaginary good that can be be produced at no cost at unlimited quantities do not matter.
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The next stage in Europe won't be these kind of strikes, it will be like what happened in the UK in the summer of 2011. Most people outside (and inside) the UK still don't realise what actually happened, why it happened, how close the authorities came to losing control nationwide and how vulnerable the entire edifice of civilisation and all of it's infrastructure was.

In a nutshell the 2011 disorder in the UK was younger people who basically just said a big fat "fuck it all".
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What happened in 2011 in UK was negros destroying stuff. Not enough of them in the South.
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Nope. Watch the footage; plenty of white people and Asians too.
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So what drew them back into the system?

If you can't answer that clearly, it means they were never really out of it, just taking a breather and putting on a show.
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Sign:

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We are left without future (or) They leave us without future.

There are (the) culpable (ones).

There are solutions.

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The only solution to it all is to burn it to the ground and start again. Even if you ignore the southern European countries and cast them off, the north will still collapse. The actual system is a fraud. Anyone who can do basic maths can see it can't work. Why are some of you still clinging to completely fraudulent ideology and economic theory? What part of "its dead" do you not get?

The younger generations won't sit there and take it when they wake up and realise their future is a false promise. More and more are realising it. It will end up in mass violence; its the only way.
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Don't feed the trolls.

American's and Canadians talk about changing things. Then we sit back and watch how real people go about making change.

If America could unite, in force, on just ONE single issue like they do in Europe - stand up and march in the streets everywhere, then perhaps something in America would change.
 Quoting: Éireann


OWS was more ambitious than this in a way, they actually occupied space for an extended period. But it's fizzled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459

Thank goodness, in this case. OWS was misguided and infiltrated to the core. Now if just plain old Americans had gotten together back in 2008 before all of that TARP shit started, THEN maybe some real change would have happened on Wall Street and in the Banks. Bitching at the Bankers wasn't the way. Congress was the way and we should have all been standing there.
 Quoting: Éireann

If you mean, before the markets crashed, I'm not sure how an intervention could have worked even then. Bernanke was doing a series of moves from the Fed that were helpful to the banks, each one unpredictable and unprecedented by the Fed. As you know, the Fed is substantially independent from the political process.

Lots of people could see that shit was getting weird, enough to make a difference, but I think opportunities for peaceful change were carefully removed all along the way.
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This has always been about bailing out the big guys and fucking over the little people. Endless whining about 'entitlements' [referring of course to social benefits], but the real big money in entitlements goes to big business from financial services to big agriculture. It dwarfs social entitlements.

I'm not saying getting people hooked on endless entitlements is from a social standpoint a good thing, it cause many problems, but like I said it dwarfs the amounts of hand outs to big business and our massive military-industrial complex.
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The next stage in Europe won't be these kind of strikes, it will be like what happened in the UK in the summer of 2011. Most people outside (and inside) the UK still don't realise what actually happened, why it happened, how close the authorities came to losing control nationwide and how vulnerable the entire edifice of civilisation and all of it's infrastructure was.

In a nutshell the 2011 disorder in the UK was younger people who basically just said a big fat "fuck it all".
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What happened in 2011 in UK was negros destroying stuff. Not enough of them in the South.
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Nope. Watch the footage; plenty of white people and Asians too.
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Yeah, "plenty", but mostly blacks.

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The only solution to it all is to burn it to the ground and start again. Even if you ignore the southern European countries and cast them off, the north will still collapse. The actual system is a fraud. Anyone who can do basic maths can see it can't work. Why are some of you still clinging to completely fraudulent ideology and economic theory? What part of "its dead" do you not get?

The younger generations won't sit there and take it when they wake up and realise their future is a false promise. More and more are realising it. It will end up in mass violence; its the only way.
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The younger generation sits there doing nothing since decades in these countries. They are just angry that they can't continue doing it.
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The younger generation sits there doing nothing since decades in these countries. They are just angry that they can't continue doing it.
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Thats ignorant typical N.European BS.
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You are so intertwined with the south that you cannot stop it... otherwise your banks will collapse.

You see the monster has been created by the whole of Europe signing up to this Euro...

You can blame this or that, but realise that once one of the Club meds says enough we are out (or a pushed out) then the dominoes will start to fall.

The beneficiaries of this? English pound/Americano Dollar.
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That why "austerity" is demanded so harshly.

Because they will never get of the dole for themselves.

And the north can not kick them out .. as it would just be another great "blame the ugly germans" festivity.

No.

They have to leave for themselves, loud and proud (as always)

Seems to work fine so far.

Forget about the banks, the losses of an imaginary good that can be be produced at no cost at unlimited quantities do not matter.
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I understand where you come from, however what rebuff is in place once the banking system collapses? and who will be there to pick up the pieces; friend or foe?

What system will be imposed if this occurs?

I live in Greece for 4 months out of the year. Do i agree that the political elite need to be hanged at Syntagma? Yes together with the other elites that have taken over.

And who should view this? The children of Greece so they understand what happens to traitors.

Now the firefighters that are striking today... are they fat lazy people getting handouts? what about the nurses/ambulance drivers/Dr's.

You need to take a reality check people of the North of Europe and start blaming the people that are to blame, instead of an entire populace.

These handouts you refer to. They do not go to the people. 83% has been going to the elites and the other banks of Europe. So you are hypocrites as all your doing is giving fake money to your own banks and nation states whilst pandering this Euro BS.
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And the northern European banks were massively involved in this fraud in places like Spain. They knew perfectly well massive fraud was going on. And they got their bailouts from the U.S. Federal Reserve. I didn't hear any German or others whining when they grabbed their bailouts. I didn't hear anyone whining that the Germans and others should have known better and that they should take their medicine. No, that got a complete bailout of their private gambling losses with public money. I'm referring to the big banks and financial institutions of course, but private citizens in places like Germany greatly benefited for decades from this bank fraud, it was one of the main pillars of their economies, along with exporting to other EU nations.