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YES ITS Becoming more and more violent as time goes by, people are losing their patience!

Next year a person who receive now a salary of 600 euros will receive only 379 euros with the new austerity measures!!!
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Same here, cuts cuts cuts, wages cut almost in half and taxation doubled in 2-3 years, it will only get more violent from now on unfortunately.
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Everywhere in south Europe is the some thing...
can i ask my Greek friend what is the salary there?

i dont know what i am going to do with 379 euros next here!!
and i work from 9 to 6
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Public sector minimum wage with the cuts for 2012 is something like 420 if you are up to 25, and 480 if you are older. This will be cut more off course with the austerity they passed last week. Private sector is off course negotiable and depending on experience, but lots of people working in the private sector are unpaid for months in many businesses that face problems.

It's very hard to live with this kind of money, everything gets more and more expensive, wish you the best. hf
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My fellow Greek friend bad times ahead for us!! rocket
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Same here, cuts cuts cuts, wages cut almost in half and taxation doubled in 2-3 years, it will only get more violent from now on unfortunately.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Everywhere in south Europe is the some thing...
can i ask my Greek friend what is the salary there?

i dont know what i am going to do with 379 euros next here!!
and i work from 9 to 6
 Quoting: RFGTR


Public sector minimum wage with the cuts for 2012 is something like 420 if you are up to 25, and 480 if you are older. This will be cut more off course with the austerity they passed last week. Private sector is off course negotiable and depending on experience, but lots of people working in the private sector are unpaid for months in many businesses that face problems.

It's very hard to live with this kind of money, everything gets more and more expensive, wish you the best. hf
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My fellow Greek friend bad times ahead for us!! rocket
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Very true, wouldn't complain tbh if services and products prices fell down accordingly to the cuts, but for a small home in Athens you need 300-400 euros per month without the utilities. No one can live with 400 euros per month and everything getting more expensive, income taxation doubled and 15 new extra taxes, it's a madness.
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Does "direto" mean "live"? (on the video stream)

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Does "direto" mean "live"? (on the video stream)

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Direct, something like that i suppose. This is a video though and not a stream.

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Finally we see who is willing to work and who is not.

You see, once the Euro would be history and the EU members were returning to their own currency, then German, British, American and Chinese investors would buy up your countries for pennies. That's what your new currencies will be worth, thus your country. With each strike you prove that your new currencies are worth less and less. The cheaper you could be bought up later.

Here in Germany a lot of people work for 7, sometimes less than 5 Euros an hour - before taxes and baring the high German costs of living! We have to work until 67 and we only get full pension when we have worked fulltime for 40 years... which rarely is the case. A lot of us die working.

We build (arguably) the best cars in the world, the best machinery, we go to work everyday, rain or shine. But if you show us you are not worth the effort, you will not be supported by us anymore, but you will be a competitor. Are you ready for this? You won't win that competition by striking and demanding more than you deserve.
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hihi typical german talking.
arbeit macht frei! chuckle

but i kinda agree with you... the thing is i dont agree with the system.
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11/14/2012 02:58 PM

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!Violencia!

[link to videos.sapo.pt]
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Thanks but that's not a live stream. Its a video clip.
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11/14/2012 03:01 PM

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!Violencia!

[link to videos.sapo.pt]
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Thanks but that's not a live stream. Its a video clip.
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Yes, I just came back here to post that I had figured out they are showing the same scenes over and over again.

Recent, maybe, but not live.
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Finally we see who is willing to work and who is not.

You see, once the Euro would be history and the EU members were returning to their own currency, then German, British, American and Chinese investors would buy up your countries for pennies. That's what your new currencies will be worth, thus your country. With each strike you prove that your new currencies are worth less and less. The cheaper you could be bought up later.

Here in Germany a lot of people work for 7, sometimes less than 5 Euros an hour - before taxes and baring the high German costs of living! We have to work until 67 and we only get full pension when we have worked fulltime for 40 years... which rarely is the case. A lot of us die working.

We build (arguably) the best cars in the world, the best machinery, we go to work everyday, rain or shine. But if you show us you are not worth the effort, you will not be supported by us anymore, but you will be a competitor. Are you ready for this? You won't win that competition by striking and demanding more than you deserve.
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hihi typical german talking.
arbeit macht frei! chuckle

but i kinda agree with you... the thing is i dont agree with the system.
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Yeah, only the rich deserve to do nothing and get paid exorbitant amount of money so they can bank that money im ausland and don't have to pay the same taxes as everyone else. It's the same shit whether in Germany, UK, US or any other place. The poor have to work, work, work for empty peanut shells while the rich live it up.
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[link to elpais.com]

This appears to be live in Madrid!

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11/14/2012 03:13 PM
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Buy the separate countries for a dime? You hallucinate. Spoilers are going to be desamortized to death anywhere in sight in the planet. So came, so goes. Be nice and learn to lose, you cheated.
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11/14/2012 03:19 PM
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srsly, first tv news here and 95% full stop being reported.

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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Socialists getting payback for their spending binges.
Enjoy it....you earned it.


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11/14/2012 03:26 PM
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except holland
earth is a school and you must know that
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11/14/2012 03:30 PM
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Im trying to think of the difference between portugal being productive and portugal on strike. hmmmm
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hey British asshole try to work with 400 Euros a month!!!!!
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Hey Diego, your low-wage ceiling and personal finance satisfaction expectations are your own doing... If you want more out of life, earn the fucker.
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11/14/2012 03:33 PM
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Finally we see who is willing to work and who is not.

You see, once the Euro would be history and the EU members were returning to their own currency, then German, British, American and Chinese investors would buy up your countries for pennies. That's what your new currencies will be worth, thus your country. With each strike you prove that your new currencies are worth less and less. The cheaper you could be bought up later.

Here in Germany a lot of people work for 7, sometimes less than 5 Euros an hour - before taxes and baring the high German costs of living! We have to work until 67 and we only get full pension when we have worked fulltime for 40 years... which rarely is the case. A lot of us die working.

We build (arguably) the best cars in the world, the best machinery, we go to work everyday, rain or shine. But if you show us you are not worth the effort, you will not be supported by us anymore, but you will be a competitor. Are you ready for this? You won't win that competition by striking and demanding more than you deserve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27750536


The german were responsible for 2 world wars and you will be responsible for another one!!!
400 euros of medium salary and a pension of 300 at the age of 67 is enough for you???
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11/14/2012 03:35 PM
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
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Im trying to think of the difference between portugal being productive and portugal on strike. hmmmm
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hey British asshole try to work with 400 Euros a month!!!!!
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11/14/2012 03:37 PM
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portugal's repeating himself now
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
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Idiot... All that comes to mind....
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portugal's repeating himself now
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im not rpeating myself i was answering the German guy but you answer in the name of him...now we see that you have a German bone lol
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
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Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


You seriously dont have any clue as to the current situation in Portugal... You speak of 100 quid an hour, but you fail to understand that there isn't that opportunity for the regular joe in Portugal..

So why dont you just shut it already...rant
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002



The problem is that most of the jobs, even the ones that require a little bit more of knowledge, say a professional or technical course, do not pay over 1000 euros, most actually pay probably 700 euros or so, even that is not enough comparing the price range we have over here in most of the things. And with the lack of jobs there are, you either take what you get or you continue a long while with no job... Even people that get 900 euros a month or so will get cut back real bad on their salary, IRS increase next year, etc. It's not a matter of forcing people to just earn 400 euros, it's a matter of people not really having a choice... especially people that already have or are building a family. Even when we joined euro, everything doubled in price, compared to our old coin (Escudo) so 1 euro = 200 escudos, but our salaries did not accompany the price doubling, so the minimum wage back then was around 87000 escudos, and now it's 400 and something euros, which is exactly the same. The money just couldn't circulate as well, that little detail was probably what killed it over here to begin with, that and our crappy government which has political immunity and even with proof of corruption cannot be arrested.
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


You just don't seem to know how quickly that can all change. You should be thankful for what you have and not throw it in other peoples faces.
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


You seriously dont have any clue as to the current situation in Portugal... You speak of 100 quid an hour, but you fail to understand that there isn't that opportunity for the regular joe in Portugal..

So why dont you just shut it already...rant
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Excuse me Pal, but we are all dealt the same fuckin cards in life and it's up to the individual to rise from the dirt, not search for excuses.
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


You seriously dont have any clue as to the current situation in Portugal... You speak of 100 quid an hour, but you fail to understand that there isn't that opportunity for the regular joe in Portugal..

So why dont you just shut it already...rant
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Exactly, a simpler way to say what I tried to in my just a few seconds ago post :)
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Is the parliament still surounded in Portugal?
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


You just don't seem to know how quickly that can all change. You should be thankful for what you have and not throw it in other peoples faces.
 Quoting: Mr. D 4603964


Not trying to. This is confrontational constructive criticism and I hope to motivate the lad with a combination of anger and shame. Seriously, I freelance, from home and I make good money. I could easily resettle in Portugal and do exactly the same thing. Why can't he?
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


of course you have a second home, you are what we call here a new rich people who dispase who are poor and dont have feelings for nobody...people like you exists in all countrys around the world...
you are so English that you dont even care with your own country
so run, run for your second home in south america and may god have mercy of the country you go living!
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If youre talking to me diego, you might love to know that i dont even touch my mouse in a professional way for less than 100 quid an hour.

If your bitching about earning 400 euros a month, who is forcing you to ONLY earn so little? the gov? brussels? no, YOU are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


ohhhh how friendly you are from the German
well when the fat lady ruin all Europe, you wait your country will be the next!!!!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Seeing as I have a second home and business in South America, I'm this bothered:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27541002


of course you have a second home, you are what we call here a new rich people who dispase who are poor and dont have feelings for nobody...people like you exists in all countrys around the world...
you are so English that you dont even care with your own country
so run, run for your second home in south america and may god have mercy of the country you go living!
 Quoting: RFGTR


Take that emotion youre feeling right now and get proactive about your own life instead of berating the world for your own inadequacies. Change your life my friend, it's not impossible.

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