AUSTRALIA - Vas amounts of methane gas leaking from the largest coal mine

What will you tell your grand kid's when your back yard looks like this. [link to au.images.search.yahoo.com]

Whats being done with this hole?


"They where the good old days"?

NOT EVEN 30 CENTS IN THE DOLLAR (GROSS) EVEN ENTERS THE AUSTRALIAN SYSTEM NOW.

Something stinks about this article (no pun intended). It reeks of the 'green' agenda. Sounds like they are trying to demonize coal and gas production.

Just my two cents.

crustal earth displacement is the science they based the story on.

Well worth looking into.

Einstien was very interested in the subject but mainstream science attacked it with enthusiam.

Too late, they already are- we are closing mines and laying off staff in Qld, overseas they are opening new mines
Oz has pure and simply too much expense, too much paperwork and too much bullshit to both dealing with anymore.

Alone in the last two months, the company I work for (supplying mining equipment) has gone from 80 employees to just over 20 left, and we have had no overtime at all in weeks (instead of 4 hrs every day plus Saturdays), and will be looking at reducing both people working there and number of hours worked still further (p/t jobs 2 or 3 days a week)

Congratulations Oz, between the state and federal governments, you have screwed the last way most people had of getting a halfway decent wage (not to mention the one industry that shielded us from the last global recession- and there's another one, another much bigger one, on the way and soon when the US economy collapses)

another movie you should watch: The Core

about the core of the earth getting fucked up by... guess who.

Yes, Centrailia, Pa mine has been burning for something like 47 years. Isn't there a place in Australia called Burning Mountain that has burned for thousands of years?

Actually it shows how little people know- those holes are backfilled with the spoil as the mine follows the seam, and here (unlike most overseas) they are required to monitor both any possible contaminants released and also replant both trees and new undergrowth using common local types as the open cut continues on

This is one of the reasons (plus the highest cost and highly regulated OH&S regimes in the world) making Oz less and less attractive to the corporations that run such industries, why do it expensive here when they can halve or quarter their costs in underdeveloped countries

apparently the Tweed Shire Council letter has reported that the CSG companies are not interested in this area now .
I hope its not a quite before the onslaught plan . Why are they flying drones around the Tweed Valley constantly

What do you think of Patrick Geryl's work and the possibility of a massive CME and a pole shift or is it just a matter of semantics?

I am of the opinion that massive catastrophes are in our near future as the earth is changing rapidly. The release of methane everywhere is proceeding exponentially and this has far more effects on temperature and weather than any CO2 we humans produce.

It is like we are in a chain reaction that has begun and can not be controlled and I believe this will happen rapidly rather than slowly so brace yourselves.

YAY! Doom Down Under!!!!

The Earth (and all celestial bodies) are expanding, and perhaps more notably at this time at this time, by some clues.

This expansion is in the form of hydrogen, which become water and hydrocarbons as they rise to the surface. This is perhaps has something to do with why these events are being seen around the world right now.

The earth is not running out of hydrocarbons.

Within these ideas is the idea that solar eclipses might form concentrated neutrino beams which may temporarily accelerate the expansion, and the release of hydrocarbons in a region or increased tectonic activity.



Last Edited by ehecatl on 11/14/2012 08:22 AM

Oh FFS, really?

Your going to Hell is more the worry!!!!!!

Sorry but I think it is TIME to stop being scientific and start being SPIRITUAL. It is nice to want to understand what is going on but at some point(and I believe we have passed that point) one must turn inward to the kingdom of heaven within. For me the hand writing is on the wall.

Mother Earth sighs.

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

(agreed)

HIya Mz
I have a farm near the Pilliga National Park in NSW. They have been drilling/fracking extensively there for over a year now. Talk in town, says they are movin south toward my farm.

I'm quietly shitting myself

Phew I thought you were nuts.

This take is not quite right.

The CSG 'revolution' is part to blame. When a small rig can be brought in to frack a small area, with very little surface interruption or make good, and a one man or even unmanned tank or pipeline can take the gas away, and be sold for more than the coal and other minerals that would be gotten from an open cut or shaft mine, then it comes down to economics - and greed.

The folks who want to make the dough from the exercise are to blame, not the workers, not the Govt's or legislation. Just plain old greed. Why outlay so much when you only need to do CSG fracking over and over and over and make dough from that? There's your real culprit(s).

As for the methanic issue, it is not green bullshit, it is real.

The 7:30 report did a piece on these guys, who basically moved their lab in to a 4WD and they took regular samples from 100's of sites. Almost all sites were legally within ranges set for the exercise. So no-one was worried.

But what these guys did was look at the 'fine print'. The parts of the reports that deal with what are known as 'fugitive emmissions'.

These are emmissions that escape during the extraction process. Gasses that are not part of the intended mining exercise. You see, the reports only talk about what is intended. The rest is covered up as F/E's.

These fellas in their mobile lab found between 3.5 (common) and 300 (extreme) times the limit of methanics especially. And the outputs are constant.

So the industry that claims to be clean and green, is full of shit. More spin, more greed, more ugly CSG outlets in pristine ground.

Pretty obvious I am against fracking and CSG development. What it is doing to the strata that has been stable for millions of years, only to become liquid in a sense is frightening.

They cannot know what effect it has to aquifers, salt pockets and other mineral deposits, once things start to naturally find their way around underground.

The scene from GASLAND where the fella lights up his tap water comes to mind.

They are also doing this in Louisianna, and the fracking and destabilisation and saturation of salt domes is evidence that on paper it might look great, and the engineers are so clever, but in reality, they have screwed up.

Then again, how could they have known 2 years back at Macondo that the DWH blow out would lead to the entire salt pillow/vein between that area and leading right up through and past Louisianna becomming saturated, and a means for deep salt waters to come up on to land. But it's happened, and the suggestions that the oil being found at Assumption matches the imprint of oil at Macondo, some 200 miles away, out to sea, makes the connection all the more apparent.

Oh, that's right... their spin on that was they dumped oil from the clean up in to the dome at Assumption..... How stupid do they think we are?

Sorry to hear that Rickster. I'm in Sydney, and live on the LaneCove National Park, and these fuckers have tried to do some test wells just outside it's jurasdiction. At present the legals against it are stating that despite the test well being off Commonwealth protected ground, the slant drill hole still penetrates beneath protected soil.

I have suggested finding some local, or even bullshit Aboriginese to claim the land as their own and start a legal shit storm.

That tact will work elsewhere too methinks. Just tie it all up.

Can you do anything about it mate? Folks here would come up to help I'm sure.

Howdy neighbour ( I'm lane Cove too!!!)

I'm sure there would be no shortage of Bro's who would lay claim to my land - problem is they may be worse than the frackers.

Of course their is going to be methane from coal seams - NSSherlock, Stop believing all their Green Agenda 21 BS, its from the sydney morning herald which as a reader IQ of a 12year old...

Reader beware

Well, start by reading the article(s) and watching the segments screened on ABC last night.

Levels of methane are expected and recorded, but the sneaky thing is that any methane that escapes outside of what is part of the extraction proces was NOT measured, other than to state it was an escaped gas.

What these two fellas are finding is that the levels of these escaped gasses are 3-300 times what was agreed upon as safe.

They shouldnt be doing this - period.