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Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers and it looks like that change, albeit gradual, is about to start.

The company is allegedly paying $25,000 per robot – about three times a worker’s average salary – and they will replace humans in assembly tasks. The plans have been in place for a while – I spoke to Foxconn reps about this a year ago – and it makes perfect sense. Humans are messy, they want more money, and having a half-a-million of them in one factory is a recipe for unrest. But what happens after the halls are clear of careful young men and women and instead full of whirring robots? What happens to China’s “burgeoning” economy?

Read more [link to techcrunch.com]
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11/14/2012 05:51 AM
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Humm that what 1% think about 99% "Humans are messy, they want more money"
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11/14/2012 05:56 AM
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Well now you'll need technicians to tend to the automation and maintanance of the robots. These people will generally get paid more, bu there will be less of them.

Also, this is the general direction we should be moving. We should be finding ways to keep humans from working meanial jobs. We should't pride ourselves on spending 1/3 our life working, 1/3 sleeping and only actually enjoying 1/3 of our life.
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11/14/2012 06:01 AM
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Are these the FANUC robots, John Titor told us about?
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11/14/2012 06:02 AM
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Yeah, it would of been better if they stuck to hiring 12 year olds to do the work for peanuts.
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11/14/2012 06:05 AM
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
having robots do the manual labour jobs, does NOT have negative effect on the economy,. It actually vastly increases the human populations quality of life, freeing them up to work far less of the time.

At least in theory this is what should happen.

Your country is still able to produce, and the government should easily be able to use such profits to provide its population with food water and electricity, REGARDLESS if they are slaving a way all week or not.

Its true. you just dont comprehend the logic yet.
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11/14/2012 06:07 AM
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Humans are messy

us he talking about the mass suicides they have there about every day? Will the robots have to sign that they promise not to jump out the window?
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
yes! More times for our hobbies! Fuck yeah! Finally
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Humans are messy

us he talking about the mass suicides they have there about every day? Will the robots have to sign that they promise not to jump out the window?
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Yes, robots promise ...
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11/14/2012 06:24 AM
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
cool, I am an automation engi / tech
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
having robots do the manual labour jobs, does NOT have negative effect on the economy,. It actually vastly increases the human populations quality of life, freeing them up to work far less of the time.

At least in theory this is what should happen.

Your country is still able to produce, and the government should easily be able to use such profits to provide its population with food water and electricity, REGARDLESS if they are slaving a way all week or not.

Its true. you just dont comprehend the logic yet.
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You can use this (wrong) logic in places where the population is relatively small. Now, in a 3 billion people country, the scenario changes.
Take a simple example: Imagine that 1 robot, takes the job of 2 workers. This robot, will work day and night for no salary and will still produce, that's correct. The problem is the whole chain that was linked to these 2 workers monthly pay. Not unusually, these 2 workers had families(with at least 3 more members) depending on this money. Well, without this income, these family members will have to go some other direction to make money. Not unusual as well, that crime is the way out.
Now scale this to maybe 1 billion workers unemployed. This is a HUGE problem. The country will still sell, the production will even increase and prices going low(due to robots producing things for less money), will increase the sales even more, but the money will NOT GO TO THE PEOPLE, this money will go to a small elite, that will become even more wealthy, while the people, the average people, struggle for surviving.
There will be, lets say, in the best case scenario, 500 million people without a job. Tell me how this is not logic...
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cool, I am an automation engi / tech
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Oh, you are uman robot? :-).
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cool, I am an automation engi / tech
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Oh, you are uman robot? :-).
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yes, we all are - driven by our spirit - we humans use "thought controlled" robot bodies - move your arm, rion tight now, go ahead, notice all you do is "think it into position" (thought controlled robot)

I have to write code and also motion path teach, set parms, debug it all, bla bla

definitely not cool human robot "thought control" User interface (yet :-)

yea, we are all robots - the body is made of "dirt" by the way
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
I would like to see the factory that can produce 1 million robots.
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
cool, I am an automation engi / tech
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25027150


Oh, you are uman robot? :-).
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yes, we all are - driven by our spirit - we humans use "thought controlled" robot bodies - move your arm, rion tight now, go ahead, notice all you do is "think it into position" (thought controlled robot)

I have to write code and also motion path teach, set parms, debug it all, bla bla

definitely not cool human robot "thought control" User interface (yet :-)

yea, we are all robots - the body is made of "dirt" by the way
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If this confuses you If you're happy, the robot knows it :-)
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
will my next iphone be cheaper? ill answer, hell no
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers and it looks like that change, albeit gradual, is about to start.

The company is allegedly paying $25,000 per robot – about three times a worker’s average salary – and they will replace humans in assembly tasks. The plans have been in place for a while – I spoke to Foxconn reps about this a year ago – and it makes perfect sense. Humans are messy, they want more money, and having a half-a-million of them in one factory is a recipe for unrest. But what happens after the halls are clear of careful young men and women and instead full of whirring robots? What happens to China’s “burgeoning” economy?Read more [link to techcrunch.com]
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What happens is an eruption that ends China in its present form.
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
will my next iphone be cheaper? ill answer, hell no
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In a perfect world, robots would at least be able to take on the dull work of making ... new iPhone does not mean data costs will get cheaper for consumers :-).
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Humans are messy

us he talking about the mass suicides they have there about every day? Will the robots have to sign that they promise not to jump out the window?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19392583


Yes, robots promise ...
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doesn't matter now that the windows are welded over w pipe.... hopefully the robots do not become self aware and decide to break thru & catch the bus
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Humans are messy

us he talking about the mass suicides they have there about every day? Will the robots have to sign that they promise not to jump out the window?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19392583


Yes, robots promise ...
 Quoting: smilesun


doesn't matter now that the windows are welded over w pipe.... hopefully the robots do not become self aware and decide to break thru & catch the bus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19392583


Robots will surpass human intelligence by 2030, scientists say. Good night for me :-).
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11/14/2012 05:26 PM
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Well the good news is, u still need humans to make robots
Or to make the robots that make robots at least
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
So? If it were not for the inept way in which we choose to use or gain money then having technology for service would not be a problem. Anyway, when was the last time you even got customer service anywhere that was worth while? I say robots can do it better, they are hard workers and don't need health benefits our an hourly wage and one man can maintain several. Sounds like a dream that could have been realized a long time ago if people realized they could survive without all they have been brainwashed into believing that they need.
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
Soooooo the workers get fired and have no money to buy what the robots produce. Brilliant.
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
This is what happens when workers demand a dollar an hour and a place to sleep and eat like the Chinese are doing.

Oh wait, that argument does not fly anymore
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
cool, I am an automation engi / tech
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Who is soon to be in competition with billions of others that will want your job.

Supply and Demand will say you are worth 10 cents an hour
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will my next iphone be cheaper? ill answer, hell no
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Nope, Shareholders come first over consumers.
The iphone costs about 200 dollars to make with labor and they sell it for 650

With robots, it will cost 50 dollars to make and they will sell it to you for ....650.

Wall Street Parasites cheer
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
So? If it were not for the inept way in which we choose to use or gain money then having technology for service would not be a problem. Anyway, when was the last time you even got customer service anywhere that was worth while? I say robots can do it better, they are hard workers and don't need health benefits our an hourly wage and one man can maintain several. Sounds like a dream that could have been realized a long time ago if people realized they could survive without all they have been brainwashed into believing that they need.
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Talking to a an indian at a call center is a pain
Talking to a robot would be 10 times worse

It would be full of circular menus never getting an answer to your question
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Re: Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers
So? If it were not for the inept way in which we choose to use or gain money then having technology for service would not be a problem. Anyway, when was the last time you even got customer service anywhere that was worth while? I say robots can do it better, they are hard workers and don't need health benefits our an hourly wage and one man can maintain several. Sounds like a dream that could have been realized a long time ago if people realized they could survive without all they have been brainwashed into believing that they need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17780009


Talking to a an indian at a call center is a pain
Talking to a robot would be 10 times worse

It would be full of circular menus never getting an answer to your question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49726261


I don't believe you. No AI can possibly be as annoying to speak with as an Indian. If it was, it would be taken out for a walk and reprogrammed with a blow torch.





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