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Stage 5: The Old Soul

 
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I'm in the sharing phase. I would like my journey to be complete, but I know some things I have to work on...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Wow, thanks you just put another piece in my puzzle, could you explain the soul coming from the heart, this one I'm having a hard time with!
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Thanks!
hf

Sorry, I don't really have a good concept about WHAT the soul truly is either, other than that it is somehow our true self. Or something like that. Which is kind of counter-intuitive, because how can something we are not be our true self?

But that is exactly what it's like.

There are times in deep meditation when I expand and feel 1,000 times larger, completely still and blissful. I believe I'm at least closer to the state of experiencing myself on the soul level at those times than when I'm busy doing ordinary 3D-stuff, like fapping to porn on the internet, just to make a random example. But I just know even those precious moments of "spiritual experiences" are but the tip of the iceberg.

Anyhow, I'm convinced from such experiences we are all incredibly powerful GODS, nothing less! On the soul level, we are all-powerful gods, easily mastering the forces of the Universe, and at the same time adorable innocent playful children who love to be tickled and who don't have a clue about anything, and that mysterious paradox is what we truly are!



Our ordinary 3D appearance is quite misleading...
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Why bother "labeling" people here? How do you know that older souls prefer socialism? Since when is Libertarianism about "getting ahead"?... that is not what it is about. I am a Libertarian, not to get ahead, but because I love the idea of individual freedom and rights- no labels or groups, because we are INDIVIDUALS... we are all unique. That is the beauty of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


As the original poster said about young souls:

"In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge."

That's pretty much exactly your mindset!

And that's why I said the young soul resonates with Libertarianism. This ideology does demand that the one who sows shall be the one to harvest, which is very much a young soul ideology! And why wouldn't it be, young souls after all being such competent and busy little bees! Why shouldn't they get to keep what they create?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong about people thinking that way, I'm just saying it's young soul thinking. Have fun with being a young soul while it lasts, you'll soon enough turn into a bleeding-heart mature soul, wishing to redistribute the fruit of the young souls' work to the poor and suffering. Nothing wrong with that either, in moderation, it just happens to be mature soul thinking.

There is nothing wrong with being a young soul!

In fact, I almost envy you guys, because you are still having so much fun exploring yourselves on this plane of existence! Being a jaded and grumpy old soul that can hardly be bothered to "put food on his family" isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Don't wish your youth away, physically or spiritually, it will be gone soon enough.
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You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
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Wow, thanks you just put another piece in my puzzle, could you explain the soul coming from the heart, this one I'm having a hard time with!
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Thanks!
hf

Sorry, I don't really have a good concept about WHAT the soul truly is either, other than that it is somehow our true self. Or something like that. Which is kind of counter-intuitive, because how can something we are not be our true self?

But that is exactly what it's like.

There are times in deep meditation when I expand and feel 1,000 times larger, completely still and blissful. I believe I'm at least closer to the state of experiencing myself on the soul level at those times than when I'm busy doing ordinary 3D-stuff, like fapping to porn on the internet, just to make a random example. But I just know even those precious moments of "spiritual experiences" are but the tip of the iceberg.

Anyhow, I'm convinced from such experiences we are all incredibly powerful GODS, nothing less! On the soul level, we are all-powerful gods, easily mastering the forces of the Universe, and at the same time adorable innocent playful children who love to be tickled and who don't have a clue about anything, and that mysterious paradox is what we truly are!



Our ordinary 3D appearance is quite misleading...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Indeed, resonates with me! Have you seen this?

Thread: December 21, 2012 - New Beginning - Earth Transforming to 4D - Tolec

When I started watching the first video I said more "mumbo jumbo" but by the time he started talking about the blue light, my light went on, I have been seeing this really vibrant blue light, kind of florescent but brighter blue and a lot more vibrant, have you seen this light?
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Man, I get so cautious taking others advice on astral stuff.

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Why bother "labeling" people here? How do you know that older souls prefer socialism? Since when is Libertarianism about "getting ahead"?... that is not what it is about. I am a Libertarian, not to get ahead, but because I love the idea of individual freedom and rights- no labels or groups, because we are INDIVIDUALS... we are all unique. That is the beauty of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


As the original poster said about young souls:

"In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge."

That's pretty much exactly your mindset!

And that's why I said the young soul resonates with Libertarianism. This ideology does demand that the one who sows shall be the one to harvest, which is very much a young soul ideology! And why wouldn't it be, young souls after all being such competent and busy little bees! Why shouldn't they get to keep what they create?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong about people thinking that way, I'm just saying it's young soul thinking. Have fun with being a young soul while it lasts, you'll soon enough turn into a bleeding-heart mature soul, wishing to redistribute the fruit of the young souls' work to the poor and suffering. Nothing wrong with that either, in moderation, it just happens to be mature soul thinking.

There is nothing wrong with being a young soul!

In fact, I almost envy you guys, because you are still having so much fun exploring yourselves on this plane of existence! Being a jaded and grumpy old soul that can hardly be bothered to "put food on his family" isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Don't wish your youth away, physically or spiritually, it will be gone soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


socialism and such is an antiquated thought process. It's all a part of the brainwashing that the controllers want in place. We are all different, but we come from the same source. So EVERYTHING is part of the same, but depending on where you are born and what you are born into gives the difference.

The only way out of this is self sustainability and a knowledge of self. The things we need for this have been generationally wiped from our mindsets. Acceptance of things that are not fitting for us naturally. Cities and convenience. Gmo foods and not caring what we eat. Being consumers and product testers. It is all part of their plan.

Ideological subversion.

I believe I have seen this all play out before. I don't want to participate.

I wish that as a nation people had enough food, water, and medical supplies to just STOP contributing to this scam. Sadly people will not learn until way too late..
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I'm either a baby/young soul or an old soul, I just can't figure out which, they seem to share some characteristics. Most of american culture seems to fall into the mature soul area, which is not where I vibe.
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You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.
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If you say so.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


I said MATURE souls are socialists at heart, in a hopeless romantic sort of way. I'm an OLD soul, and we don't usually care much either way, as long as it doesn't interfere too much with us personally. And even that is rarely the case, since we have such modest requirements.

I don't vote. I don't believe in anything that ends with -ism. I can understand and respect why people are drawn to any such ideology, but I'm not drawn to them myself.

If you reread my statements on socialism, you'll find I stated that it has a lousy track record, even though I recognize the good intentions of the mature souls who believe in such practices. I also said it's fine for them to have their way, in moderation.

Young souls are running the 3D world they love so much, and mature souls are interfering with it according to their well-intentioned if often naive beliefs. Old souls mostly stay out of it altogether.

This is how things are intended to be.

And that's about all I have to say on the topic of how this world should be run! If you aren't happy with the reply, you'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not going to be dragged into a debate on the finer merits of anything that ends with -ism here!
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Wow, thanks you just put another piece in my puzzle, could you explain the soul coming from the heart, this one I'm having a hard time with!
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Thanks!
hf

Sorry, I don't really have a good concept about WHAT the soul truly is either, other than that it is somehow our true self. Or something like that. Which is kind of counter-intuitive, because how can something we are not be our true self?

But that is exactly what it's like.

There are times in deep meditation when I expand and feel 1,000 times larger, completely still and blissful. I believe I'm at least closer to the state of experiencing myself on the soul level at those times than when I'm busy doing ordinary 3D-stuff, like fapping to porn on the internet, just to make a random example. But I just know even those precious moments of "spiritual experiences" are but the tip of the iceberg.

Anyhow, I'm convinced from such experiences we are all incredibly powerful GODS, nothing less! On the soul level, we are all-powerful gods, easily mastering the forces of the Universe, and at the same time adorable innocent playful children who love to be tickled and who don't have a clue about anything, and that mysterious paradox is what we truly are!



Our ordinary 3D appearance is quite misleading...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Indeed, resonates with me! Have you seen this?

Thread: December 21, 2012 - New Beginning - Earth Transforming to 4D - Tolec

When I started watching the first video I said more "mumbo jumbo" but by the time he started talking about the blue light, my light went on, I have been seeing this really vibrant blue light, kind of florescent but brighter blue and a lot more vibrant, have you seen this light?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


It's bed time where I live, so I'll watch the movie and give my feedback sometime tomorrow.

Good night!
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Wow, thanks you just put another piece in my puzzle, could you explain the soul coming from the heart, this one I'm having a hard time with!
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Thanks!
hf

Sorry, I don't really have a good concept about WHAT the soul truly is either, other than that it is somehow our true self. Or something like that. Which is kind of counter-intuitive, because how can something we are not be our true self?

But that is exactly what it's like.

There are times in deep meditation when I expand and feel 1,000 times larger, completely still and blissful. I believe I'm at least closer to the state of experiencing myself on the soul level at those times than when I'm busy doing ordinary 3D-stuff, like fapping to porn on the internet, just to make a random example. But I just know even those precious moments of "spiritual experiences" are but the tip of the iceberg.

Anyhow, I'm convinced from such experiences we are all incredibly powerful GODS, nothing less! On the soul level, we are all-powerful gods, easily mastering the forces of the Universe, and at the same time adorable innocent playful children who love to be tickled and who don't have a clue about anything, and that mysterious paradox is what we truly are!



Our ordinary 3D appearance is quite misleading...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Indeed, resonates with me! Have you seen this?

Thread: December 21, 2012 - New Beginning - Earth Transforming to 4D - Tolec

When I started watching the first video I said more "mumbo jumbo" but by the time he started talking about the blue light, my light went on, I have been seeing this really vibrant blue light, kind of florescent but brighter blue and a lot more vibrant, have you seen this light?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


It's bed time where I live, so I'll watch the movie and give my feedback sometime tomorrow.

Good night!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Gnight, peace be with you!
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Suck on this.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know shit and probably shouldn't be spewing your bullshit on the Internet as fact.
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Why bother "labeling" people here? How do you know that older souls prefer socialism? Since when is Libertarianism about "getting ahead"?... that is not what it is about. I am a Libertarian, not to get ahead, but because I love the idea of individual freedom and rights- no labels or groups, because we are INDIVIDUALS... we are all unique. That is the beauty of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


As the original poster said about young souls:

"In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge."

That's pretty much exactly your mindset!

And that's why I said the young soul resonates with Libertarianism. This ideology does demand that the one who sows shall be the one to harvest, which is very much a young soul ideology! And why wouldn't it be, young souls after all being such competent and busy little bees! Why shouldn't they get to keep what they create?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong about people thinking that way, I'm just saying it's young soul thinking. Have fun with being a young soul while it lasts, you'll soon enough turn into a bleeding-heart mature soul, wishing to redistribute the fruit of the young souls' work to the poor and suffering. Nothing wrong with that either, in moderation, it just happens to be mature soul thinking.

There is nothing wrong with being a young soul!

In fact, I almost envy you guys, because you are still having so much fun exploring yourselves on this plane of existence! Being a jaded and grumpy old soul that can hardly be bothered to "put food on his family" isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Don't wish your youth away, physically or spiritually, it will be gone soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


socialism and such is an antiquated thought process. It's all a part of the brainwashing that the controllers want in place. We are all different, but we come from the same source. So EVERYTHING is part of the same, but depending on where you are born and what you are born into gives the difference.

The only way out of this is self sustainability and a knowledge of self. The things we need for this have been generationally wiped from our mindsets. Acceptance of things that are not fitting for us naturally. Cities and convenience. Gmo foods and not caring what we eat. Being consumers and product testers. It is all part of their plan.

Ideological subversion.

I believe I have seen this all play out before. I don't want to participate.

I wish that as a nation people had enough food, water, and medical supplies to just STOP contributing to this scam. Sadly people will not learn until way too late..
 Quoting: acegotflows


Yes I agree. If we could form self-sustaining communities, I think we would GROW together better. Right now we remain distant under the illusion that the internet somehow connects us. People use anonymity to hide themselves from being an active member of their communities, hide from helping others, use anonymity to hurt others and to take advantage of others. In a small self sustaining community, people would know your name, work ethic, reputation and your needs. We could serve each other better and live more fulfilled lives... in my opinion. I am reading a book that said that if we lived this way, where everyone shared in the sustaining of the community, we would only work an average of 4 hours a day.
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You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


If you say so.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


I said MATURE souls are socialists at heart, in a hopeless romantic sort of way. I'm an OLD soul, and we don't usually care much either way, as long as it doesn't interfere too much with us personally. And even that is rarely the case, since we have such modest requirements.

I don't vote. I don't believe in anything that ends with -ism. I can understand and respect why people are drawn to any such ideology, but I'm not drawn to them myself.

If you reread my statements on socialism, you'll find I stated that it has a lousy track record, even though I recognize the good intentions of the mature souls who believe in such practices. I also said it's fine for them to have their way, in moderation.

Young souls are running the 3D world they love so much, and mature souls are interfering with it according to their well-intentioned if often naive beliefs. Old souls mostly stay out of it altogether.

This is how things are intended to be.

And that's about all I have to say on the topic of how this world should be run! If you aren't happy with the reply, you'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not going to be dragged into a debate on the finer merits of anything that ends with -ism here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


No need to get bent out of shape. You never answered my question about how much you give though... ;)
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Wow, thanks you just put another piece in my puzzle, could you explain the soul coming from the heart, this one I'm having a hard time with!
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Thanks!
hf

Sorry, I don't really have a good concept about WHAT the soul truly is either, other than that it is somehow our true self. Or something like that. Which is kind of counter-intuitive, because how can something we are not be our true self?

But that is exactly what it's like.

There are times in deep meditation when I expand and feel 1,000 times larger, completely still and blissful. I believe I'm at least closer to the state of experiencing myself on the soul level at those times than when I'm busy doing ordinary 3D-stuff, like fapping to porn on the internet, just to make a random example. But I just know even those precious moments of "spiritual experiences" are but the tip of the iceberg.

Anyhow, I'm convinced from such experiences we are all incredibly powerful GODS, nothing less! On the soul level, we are all-powerful gods, easily mastering the forces of the Universe, and at the same time adorable innocent playful children who love to be tickled and who don't have a clue about anything, and that mysterious paradox is what we truly are!



Our ordinary 3D appearance is quite misleading...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Indeed, resonates with me! Have you seen this?

Thread: December 21, 2012 - New Beginning - Earth Transforming to 4D - Tolec

When I started watching the first video I said more "mumbo jumbo" but by the time he started talking about the blue light, my light went on, I have been seeing this really vibrant blue light, kind of florescent but brighter blue and a lot more vibrant, have you seen this light?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


It's bed time where I live, so I'll watch the movie and give my feedback sometime tomorrow.

Good night!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


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So the Soul is never young nor old and is just been? Naw, the cycles of life teaches us that things are born and live and change and die eventually.

Souls came from somewhere and through out its learning with or without human body experience, they learn and age, just at a different level. Souls live thousands of years and have much more experienced than some souls will ever understand in the human form. (being born into these bodies)

Some are gifted and become aware and if lucky at a very young age.
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There is no such thing as old or young soul. A soul is timeless, soul has no date of creation it had always been here at the part of the whole. This is MK stuff to make some people (especially in esoteric areas) feel themselves "elected".

You are the product of the potential given by your DNA and your upbringing/past history. Maybe "your" soul had more experience in refining what it wanted to be, that's all.

A so called old soul doing nothing of this potential in this life and waiting for everything as given may end up as a monkey next life for wasting the chance.
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Bullshit. Souls may be timeless but they do not all learn at the same rate.
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As the original poster said about young souls:

"In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge."

That's pretty much exactly your mindset!

And that's why I said the young soul resonates with Libertarianism. This ideology does demand that the one who sows shall be the one to harvest, which is very much a young soul ideology! And why wouldn't it be, young souls after all being such competent and busy little bees! Why shouldn't they get to keep what they create?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong about people thinking that way, I'm just saying it's young soul thinking. Have fun with being a young soul while it lasts, you'll soon enough turn into a bleeding-heart mature soul, wishing to redistribute the fruit of the young souls' work to the poor and suffering. Nothing wrong with that either, in moderation, it just happens to be mature soul thinking.

There is nothing wrong with being a young soul!

In fact, I almost envy you guys, because you are still having so much fun exploring yourselves on this plane of existence! Being a jaded and grumpy old soul that can hardly be bothered to "put food on his family" isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Don't wish your youth away, physically or spiritually, it will be gone soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


socialism and such is an antiquated thought process. It's all a part of the brainwashing that the controllers want in place. We are all different, but we come from the same source. So EVERYTHING is part of the same, but depending on where you are born and what you are born into gives the difference.

The only way out of this is self sustainability and a knowledge of self. The things we need for this have been generationally wiped from our mindsets. Acceptance of things that are not fitting for us naturally. Cities and convenience. Gmo foods and not caring what we eat. Being consumers and product testers. It is all part of their plan.

Ideological subversion.

I believe I have seen this all play out before. I don't want to participate.

I wish that as a nation people had enough food, water, and medical supplies to just STOP contributing to this scam. Sadly people will not learn until way too late..
 Quoting: acegotflows


Yes I agree. If we could form self-sustaining communities, I think we would GROW together better. Right now we remain distant under the illusion that the internet somehow connects us. People use anonymity to hide themselves from being an active member of their communities, hide from helping others, use anonymity to hurt others and to take advantage of others. In a small self sustaining community, people would know your name, work ethic, reputation and your needs. We could serve each other better and live more fulfilled lives... in my opinion. I am reading a book that said that if we lived this way, where everyone shared in the sustaining of the community, we would only work an average of 4 hours a day.
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I believe that is the best way to go. Also we need really understand why certain things are legal and accepted while others are shamed and shunned. Small self sustaining is ideal model. But there has been a war on that for a LONG time (with the concept of time being used loosely).

We need to open our minds and really see, rather than accept what we have been told.
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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There is no such thing as old or young soul. A soul is timeless, soul has no date of creation it had always been here at the part of the whole. This is MK stuff to make some people (especially in esoteric areas) feel themselves "elected".

You are the product of the potential given by your DNA and your upbringing/past history. Maybe "your" soul had more experience in refining what it wanted to be, that's all.

A so called old soul doing nothing of this potential in this life and waiting for everything as given may end up as a monkey next life for wasting the chance.
 Quoting: Sandrose


Bullshit. Souls may be timeless but they do not all learn at the same rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26191271


because we are all different, it is impossible to do anything at the same rate as anything else... in any form...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I believe that since a soul as a ball of energy light that can have anything, it would get boring. For that, the reason we are here is to be contained in a shell with limits. We are here to feel all of it. Pain, love, fear, pride, comfort, hate, etc. So we may appreciate it more when we go back on "vacation".

This is the first I have seen anyone else with the same thoughts. I am pretty new to GLP, last couple months.

The combination of science and spirit are like oil and water to me as far as morals.

And this 2012 thing is another wrench in my thoughts. Alot of shells gone. I feel it is a culling of inferior shells to preserve the genetically more advanced and only ET intervention would desire this.
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I'm either a baby/young soul or an old soul, I just can't figure out which, they seem to share some characteristics. Most of american culture seems to fall into the mature soul area, which is not where I vibe.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


Americans are actually young souls.

[link to www.michaelteachings.com]

The old souls are Iceland.

And you see them taking ACTION to solve their problems.

Americans want to get "rich".

Very very young souls.
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man is appointed only one life.

This is it.

deal with it.

Get to know your creator.

there is a way to salvation.
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I'm either a baby/young soul or an old soul, I just can't figure out which, they seem to share some characteristics. Most of american culture seems to fall into the mature soul area, which is not where I vibe.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


Americans are actually young souls.

[link to www.michaelteachings.com]

The old souls are Iceland.

And you see them taking ACTION to solve their problems.

Americans want to get "rich".

Very very young souls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593




My thoughts.

Stage 1 - New to life. Grabs the strongest input available and focuses their life on it. Happy with that little bit.

Stages 2 to 4 - focused on brushing up on other skills touched on while achieving stage one contentness and progressing off the experiences touched on through stages 3-4. Awareness of self as something singular of society gets a bit stronger with each stage.

Stage 5- Good at it all with little effort if choosing to indulge in it. Simply bored with it all eventually. Distances oneself from others. Turns to nature as a focus.
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man is appointed only one life.

This is it.

deal with it.

Get to know your creator.

there is a way to salvation.
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Which is what exactly?
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I'm either a baby/young soul or an old soul, I just can't figure out which, they seem to share some characteristics. Most of american culture seems to fall into the mature soul area, which is not where I vibe.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


Americans are actually young souls.

[link to www.michaelteachings.com]

The old souls are Iceland.

And you see them taking ACTION to solve their problems.

Americans want to get "rich".

Very very young souls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


You won't expand your awareness by relying on generalizations, friend. You are located in Brazil. Does that mean I can describe the nature of your consciousness and everyone else who lives in Brazil by assuming you are all the same and adhere to the same stereotype/generalization? Of course not. : )

peace

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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I'm either a baby/young soul or an old soul, I just can't figure out which, they seem to share some characteristics. Most of american culture seems to fall into the mature soul area, which is not where I vibe.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


Americans are actually young souls.

[link to www.michaelteachings.com]

The old souls are Iceland.

And you see them taking ACTION to solve their problems.

Americans want to get "rich".

Very very young souls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


You won't expand your awareness by relying on generalizations, friend. You are located in Brazil. Does that mean I can describe the nature of your consciousness and everyone else who lives in Brazil by assuming you are all the same and adhere to the same stereotype/generalization? Of course not. : )

peace
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No. But you can talk about the MAJORITY of people without being pedantic about their "unique flakes" characteristics.

Because, you know, that is how advertising, tv, mass media, statistics, you name it, WORK.
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I'm either a baby/young soul or an old soul, I just can't figure out which, they seem to share some characteristics. Most of american culture seems to fall into the mature soul area, which is not where I vibe.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


Americans are actually young souls.

[link to www.michaelteachings.com]

The old souls are Iceland.

And you see them taking ACTION to solve their problems.

Americans want to get "rich".

Very very young souls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


You won't expand your awareness by relying on generalizations, friend. You are located in Brazil. Does that mean I can describe the nature of your consciousness and everyone else who lives in Brazil by assuming you are all the same and adhere to the same stereotype/generalization? Of course not. : )

peace
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


No. But you can talk about the MAJORITY of people without being pedantic about their "unique flakes" characteristics.

Because, you know, that is how advertising, tv, mass media, statistics, you name it, WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


Oh I understand now, you feel that the identity of one's consciousness/spirit/soul is rooted in external circumstances/factors. You are judging by the exterior with no regard for the interior. Good luck with that approach. : )

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Americans are actually young souls.

[link to www.michaelteachings.com]

The old souls are Iceland.

And you see them taking ACTION to solve their problems.

Americans want to get "rich".

Very very young souls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


You won't expand your awareness by relying on generalizations, friend. You are located in Brazil. Does that mean I can describe the nature of your consciousness and everyone else who lives in Brazil by assuming you are all the same and adhere to the same stereotype/generalization? Of course not. : )

peace
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


No. But you can talk about the MAJORITY of people without being pedantic about their "unique flakes" characteristics.

Because, you know, that is how advertising, tv, mass media, statistics, you name it, WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


Oh I understand now, you feel that the identity of one's consciousness/spirit/soul is rooted in external circumstances/factors. You are judging by the exterior with no regard for the interior. Good luck with that approach. : )
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I am talking about how advertising, marketing, politics, EVERYTHING works.

You can pretend they don't.

And try to diminish me with your DUMB "arguments".
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Those undergoing the fifth and final stage of reincarnation are known as old souls. In this stage of soul evolvement there is a search for balance and completion, and an urge to pass on the torch before the end of reincarnation.

1. In the first stage, as an infant soul, it learned about physical existence, life and death, and the need for nurturing.
2. In the second stage, as a baby soul, it learned about society, culture and community, the need for structure, belonging, and playing a role.
3. In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge.
4. In the fourth stage, as a mature soul, it learned about co-existence and interrelatedness, taking responsibility for its relationships, honouring difference and otherness.


So to begin this stage, the soul will tend to focus on true self-expression and self-actualization, seeking experiences which provide personal fulfilment within life on the physical plane. This could be found in, say, acting, painting, wine-growing, gardening, flying old aeroplanes, or simply being a grandparent. The soul is not interested in success or fame so much as doing something it loves well, and finding inner satisfaction.

Then, towards the end of the stage, there is more of an emphasis on teaching rather than simply learning: passing on the lessons learnt, showing others the way.

 Quoting: Funney


I'm aware that compartmentalization of yourself and others is therapeutic, but it divides us. I'm also aware that we are all connected.

Were these 5 stages your soul's personal evolution in this incarnation?

Everyone's path is different.

hf
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Oh I don't think it divides us at all. We all have things to learn from each other - old souls and young souls.

LifeTree
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I am talking about how advertising, marketing, politics, EVERYTHING works.

You can pretend they don't.

And try to diminish me with your DUMB "arguments".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27747593


You diminished yourself with your comical assertion & generalization that souls are grouped according to countries/nationalities... I did not have to do any work here. : )

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 11/14/2012 08:19 PM

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There is no such thing as old or young soul. A soul is timeless, soul has no date of creation it had always been here at the part of the whole. This is MK stuff to make some people (especially in esoteric areas) feel themselves "elected".

You are the product of the potential given by your DNA and your upbringing/past history. Maybe "your" soul had more experience in refining what it wanted to be, that's all.

A so called old soul doing nothing of this potential in this life and waiting for everything as given may end up as a monkey next life for wasting the chance.
 Quoting: Sandrose


No because your confusing it.

All will become elect at one point or another. The older soul is to the point of that realization. Then the "when" becomes of matter of... well no matter at all.

And DNA is merely the antenna through which "you" are received.

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