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Stage 5: The Old Soul

 
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I am talking about how advertising, marketing, politics, EVERYTHING works.

You can pretend they don't.

And try to diminish me with your DUMB "arguments".
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You diminished yourself with your comical assertion & generalization that souls are grouped according to countries/nationalities... I did not have to do any work here. : )
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I didn't do anything.

I just gave a link to a site.

You are being small-minded.
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My thoughts.

Stage 1 - New to life. Grabs the strongest input available and focuses their life on it. Happy with that little bit.

Stages 2 to 4 - focused on brushing up on other skills touched on while achieving stage one contentness and progressing off the experiences touched on through stages 3-4. Awareness of self as something singular of society gets a bit stronger with each stage.

Stage 5- Good at it all with little effort if choosing to indulge in it. Simply bored with it all eventually. Distances oneself from others. Turns to nature as a focus.
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Sounds like me. I recently realized that it was all in front of my face this whole time: people (nature; focus). Thus underlined the last part.
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All ego bullshit

Fake madeup bullshit

I'm a baby soul
babybaby
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And this, I see as a child, stepping up to the stage 2.

A soul peeking out of its shell of stage 1, afraid to emerge.
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All ego bullshit

Fake madeup bullshit

I'm a baby soul
babybaby
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And this, I see as a child, stepping up to the stage 2.

A soul peeking out of its shell of stage 1, afraid to emerge.
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But you gotta admit those babies are funny! Speaking of where the heck is Funney?


everytime
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You diminished yourself with your comical assertion & generalization that souls are grouped according to countries/nationalities... I did not have to do any work here. : )
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~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Everyone in here attempts to speak with so much authority.

I think you're ALL in for a surprise.
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Everyone in here attempts to speak with so much authority.

I think you're ALL in for a surprise.
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No, not really. World is going to shake. We as material persons are not so ready to not prepare for a long physical extended rodeo ride. Prepped and ready. And if we got no chance, so be it. Energy guides and draws like a magnet to the source. All I know is, is that my dogs are coming with me. rockon
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Everyone in here attempts to speak with so much authority.

I think you're ALL in for a surprise.
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I have no authority over anything. Trying to get it over myself, it is not working.
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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hi Funney.


Peace & prosperity to you & yours.
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Everyone in here attempts to speak with so much authority.

I think you're ALL in for a surprise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129812


No, not really. World is going to shake. We as material persons are not so ready to not prepare for a long physical extended rodeo ride. Prepped and ready. And if we got no chance, so be it. Energy guides and draws like a magnet to the source. All I know is, is that my dogs are coming with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24532632


hf

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No, not really. World is going to shake. We as material persons are not so ready to not prepare for a long physical extended rodeo ride. Prepped and ready. And if we got no chance, so be it. Energy guides and draws like a magnet to the source. All I know is, is that my dogs are coming with me. rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24532632


I am not a material person. I also don't consider this physical body a prison; but a challenge. Challenges are how you grow.

Give up or keep raging against the machine?
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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A young soul is new to the human form. Humanity is its deserved, but recently achieved, karmic state. Young souls aren't necessarily naive, but they are usually animalistic or even act lower than animals, because those creatures represent its most recent memories of behaviors, attitudes and strategies.

An established soul is comfortable in the human realm. They have taken human forms through enough incarnations that they are comfortable with it, and are busy pursuing numerous human desires. They will continue to reincarnate in the human realm after any astral heaven/hell intermediate states they experience after human death.

Old souls either no longer need reincarnation in human form, or long to be free of human limitations and find little or no appeal in human-level life. They are interested in transcending human limitations without hating the human condition, i.e. they look at human incarnation as one would look at a school one has already graduated from, or is soon to graduate from.

Sometimes those in a higher spiritual state will incarnate in human form to do tapas, or penance, to dig deeply into their own spiritual state to achieve faster progress than they would normally in their higher, more comfortable astral world. Oftentimes this type of incarnation is combined with service to the human community in some way. In such situations, what one might see such people going through, is rarely what they, themselves, are experiencing from the same situation.

Old souls are not Masters. Spiritual mastery is completely beyond any incarnated state, or any astral, causal, supercausal or other world, and even beyond the universe itself. A genuine spiritual master sees any incarnated state as virtually the same as any other, except for crudity or sophistication of the mind-chains still holding the soul in bondage. To a master, you've either realized your essential Divinity as your very Self, or you haven't. To them, what kind of body you're wearing matters as little as the class-level of ticket any particular passenger had on the Titanic.
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bumphf

Don't have much to say in words at the moment...I find music speaks far more (and is more nuanced in communication), so here's one of my newfound favorites (that, oddly enough, like all the songs I've really deeply enjoyed, I know I've heard before when I first listen to it, even though in this life I never have).


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Meet u there :)
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Meet u there :)
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hf
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i find it nice how & which souls gravitate to this thread!

hf

i feel we deserve to know
we are life representants
& we have the right to now the overall picture!

is here anybody, fearing this disclosure of their private lives ? [transparency shock]

i mean a row of experiences spanning over hundreds or more bodies, grasped and holded in mind as only one beautifull day!

it shines sometimes so strongly that we all are led to this discovery, all of us, it is still pointing to the one inside

yesterday i visited my dog lady Jeny, she is with my father now, he had a heart stroke and i thought it would help me to have regular dog walks (he was so happy that i did this!)
Jeny is 6 years old black lab. lady with her original personality, i love how they grow if you do not force them to be "your robot") - find it very natural

so this thread is a reminder, what you are aspiring to
and what you really are inside
, how are you connected to your real selves, hows your ego fading, how you love those moments of silence with a smile..

i only share my ways, walked, felt, but without bariers,
with bridges instead!

abduct
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You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.
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If you say so.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
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I said MATURE souls are socialists at heart, in a hopeless romantic sort of way. I'm an OLD soul, and we don't usually care much either way, as long as it doesn't interfere too much with us personally. And even that is rarely the case, since we have such modest requirements.

I don't vote. I don't believe in anything that ends with -ism. I can understand and respect why people are drawn to any such ideology, but I'm not drawn to them myself.

If you reread my statements on socialism, you'll find I stated that it has a lousy track record, even though I recognize the good intentions of the mature souls who believe in such practices. I also said it's fine for them to have their way, in moderation.

Young souls are running the 3D world they love so much, and mature souls are interfering with it according to their well-intentioned if often naive beliefs. Old souls mostly stay out of it altogether.

This is how things are intended to be.

And that's about all I have to say on the topic of how this world should be run! If you aren't happy with the reply, you'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not going to be dragged into a debate on the finer merits of anything that ends with -ism here!
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No need to get bent out of shape. You never answered my question about how much you give though... ;)
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Fair enough.

Since I'm not a hyper-productive young soul any more, I have few earnings and thus little material surplus to share with anyone, so the answer is "close to zero".

I am however sharing myself freely with anyone that wishes that gift, immediately when called upon, and without reservations. Perhaps it's lucky for me so few are receptive to this gift, because that way I get plenty of free time to myself!

--

To explain the old soul views on "charity" a bit further, I said earlier that bible-bashing christians are examples of baby souls. But that doesn't mean the bible as such can't be of use to anyone else.


1. Give an infant soul a Bible, and he will find thousands of thin paper sheets, perfect for starting a warming fire, all in a convenient wrapper!

2. Give a baby soul a Bible, and he finds comfort in the Unchangeable Word of God, an external source he can trust, so he won't succumb to his many fears!

3. Give a young soul a Bible, and he finds an in-demand royalty-free spiritual product that can easily be repackaged and sold in many ways, for great personal gain!

4. Give a mature soul a Bible, and he will become teary-eyed with emotion from reading about how Jesus healed the sick, and find new inspiration to Save the World!

5. Give an old soul a Bible, and he will smile when he realizes Jesus was in fact a kindred Old Soul, and chuckle at the way the younger souls misread the whole thing!


You see, the old soul isn't really involved with "charity". Not the way the young souls like it (I will get rich, and then I will help those I feel deserve it, the way I feel is right). And not the way mature souls like it (I will take from John to help Paul, the way I feel is right).

The old soul realizes the world already is what it is supposed to be, so there is little reason to try to "make it right".

Judas was a mature soul. His act of selling out Judas was actually motivated by his zeal for helping the poor. "Think of how many poor I can help with all that money!" That's the problem for mature souls right there, they aren't productive busy bees like the young souls, so they don't naturally attract great wealth. But they NEEED lots of money for their many humanitarian efforts, and they will do anything to get it!

But Jesus was an old soul. And so he said "you will always have the poor around you, and you can do good towards them anytime you feel like it".

Yup. Jesus never believed in abolishing poverty, because he knew it is a natural phenomenon that will always be here. And since he didn't believe the poor can be "saved" by charity, he saw charity as an act young and mature souls mainly do to satisfy their own urge to do so.

He didn't condemn that, he just pointed out, while people will always have poor to entertain themselves with by caring for them, they will not always have him, Jesus. So perhaps they could take a pause in all this caring about the world and sit down and appreciate the loving guidance of Jesus while they still have access to it?

That's exactly the perspective I described when I said I'm willing to give of myself, immediately when called upon, and without reservations.

That's the only "charity" you're likely to get out of those lazy old souls!
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Correction:

Judas was a mature soul. His act of selling out Jesus was actually motivated by his zeal for helping the poor.
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i find it nice how & which souls gravitate to this thread!

hf

i feel we deserve to know
we are life representants
& we have the right to now the overall picture!

is here anybody, fearing this disclosure of their private lives ? [transparency shock]

i mean a row of experiences spanning over hundreds or more bodies, grasped and holded in mind as only one beautifull day!

it shines sometimes so strongly that we all are led to this discovery, all of us, it is still pointing to the one inside

yesterday i visited my dog lady Jeny, she is with my father now, he had a heart stroke and i thought it would help me to have regular dog walks (he was so happy that i did this!)
Jeny is 6 years old black lab. lady with her original personality, i love how they grow if you do not force them to be "your robot") - find it very natural

so this thread is a reminder, what you are aspiring to
and what you really are inside
, how are you connected to your real selves, hows your ego fading, how you love those moments of silence with a smile..

i only share my ways, walked, felt, but without bariers,
with bridges instead!

abduct
 Quoting: Funney


It's interesting you speak of the "transparency shock", because I'm acutely aware of just how embarrassing the moment of full knowing is going to be. We will suddenly see EVERYTHING bad we have done, not only in this life, but in a thousand less evolved ones!

And so will everyone else!

I believe the only way to cope with this, is to forgive yourself thoroughly. Shine your light into every dank corner of your soul, see what's there, and apply Unconditional Love liberally, until no shame remains. It's the only way to get ready for the Light that shines right through it all, whether you like it or not!

At least that's what I've been busy working on the last several years! And it's still a work in progress!
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...yada yada...
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Indeed, resonates with me! Have you seen this?

Thread: December 21, 2012 - New Beginning - Earth Transforming to 4D - Tolec

When I started watching the first video I said more "mumbo jumbo" but by the time he started talking about the blue light, my light went on, I have been seeing this really vibrant blue light, kind of florescent but brighter blue and a lot more vibrant, have you seen this light?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


I honestly didn't expect much from the video, especially not when it wasted the first whole minute on "inspiring" fluff images, with the usual awful droning New Age Muzak backing!


But,

when the guy started talking, I was immediately taken by the absolute truth of what he was saying!

I verrry much resonate with this message, and will certainly head to check out the andromedacouncil.com website a bit closer!

Thanks for sharing!
hf
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i find it nice how & which souls gravitate to this thread!

hf

i feel we deserve to know
we are life representants
& we have the right to now the overall picture!

is here anybody, fearing this disclosure of their private lives ? [transparency shock]

i mean a row of experiences spanning over hundreds or more bodies, grasped and holded in mind as only one beautifull day!

it shines sometimes so strongly that we all are led to this discovery, all of us, it is still pointing to the one inside

 Quoting: Funney


Hey Funney. I would submit that you already know this information about your past experiences and past lives. You are just suffering from temporary amnesia. When this information returns to our consciousness it will not be in the context of new information but the restoration of already acknowledged memories (experiences). It's difficult to envision in this current state of forgetfulness, but I am not anticipating any surprising/shocking revelations, just a restoration of information I've already possessed. There will be a feeling of familiarity - like the awareness is second nature. I imagine it will be very liberating & empowering to say the least. : )

hf

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i find it nice how & which souls gravitate to this thread!

hf

i feel we deserve to know
we are life representants
& we have the right to now the overall picture!

is here anybody, fearing this disclosure of their private lives ? [transparency shock]

i mean a row of experiences spanning over hundreds or more bodies, grasped and holded in mind as only one beautifull day!

it shines sometimes so strongly that we all are led to this discovery, all of us, it is still pointing to the one inside

 Quoting: Funney


Hey Funney. I would submit that you already know this information about your past experiences and past lives. You are just suffering from temporary amnesia. When this information returns to our consciousness it will not be in the context of new information but the restoration of already acknowledged memories (experiences). It's difficult to envision in this current state of forgetfulness, but I am not anticipating any surprising/shocking revelations, just a restoration of information I've already possessed. There will be a feeling of familiarity - like the awareness is second nature. I imagine it will be very liberating & empowering to say the least. : )

hf
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oh yes Anhedonic
Liberating is the word suiting best :D
the familiarity feeling is precisely the reason i looked inside at first, for answers. And guess what, they were there for me ready to be understood.
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we are geographically scattered for a cause (and effect in that position)

afro
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You cannot determine a strangers mindset with one written paragraph, wrap them up in your stereotypical bag and determine you are 100% correct. You come across as having a large Ego with your labeling of other people who you do not know.
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If you say so.

Let me ask you this: how much of your earnings, your fruit, do you give to the poor and suffering? By your standards of being an older soul supporting socialism, that should be a lot. Libertarians actually do believe that community should be the ones to help their needy, so why are you misinforming people that Libertarians do not care about others? Socialism has its ills, they TAKE from people to give to others- it is not a charity situation at all. Liberal people have said Jesus would be socialist, but I think not, because it is not right to take from someone working 2 jobs in order to give to another. He would have wanted us to give from the kindness of out hearts in my opinion, and that does not mean taking with the with the intent of keeping a percentage, as a socialist government does. History shows they make the rich poorer AND the poor poorer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


I said MATURE souls are socialists at heart, in a hopeless romantic sort of way. I'm an OLD soul, and we don't usually care much either way, as long as it doesn't interfere too much with us personally. And even that is rarely the case, since we have such modest requirements.

I don't vote. I don't believe in anything that ends with -ism. I can understand and respect why people are drawn to any such ideology, but I'm not drawn to them myself.

If you reread my statements on socialism, you'll find I stated that it has a lousy track record, even though I recognize the good intentions of the mature souls who believe in such practices. I also said it's fine for them to have their way, in moderation.

Young souls are running the 3D world they love so much, and mature souls are interfering with it according to their well-intentioned if often naive beliefs. Old souls mostly stay out of it altogether.

This is how things are intended to be.

And that's about all I have to say on the topic of how this world should be run! If you aren't happy with the reply, you'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not going to be dragged into a debate on the finer merits of anything that ends with -ism here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


No need to get bent out of shape. You never answered my question about how much you give though... ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624960


Fair enough.

Since I'm not a hyper-productive young soul any more, I have few earnings and thus little material surplus to share with anyone, so the answer is "close to zero".

I am however sharing myself freely with anyone that wishes that gift, immediately when called upon, and without reservations. Perhaps it's lucky for me so few are receptive to this gift, because that way I get plenty of free time to myself!

--

To explain the old soul views on "charity" a bit further, I said earlier that bible-bashing christians are examples of baby souls. But that doesn't mean the bible as such can't be of use to anyone else.


1. Give an infant soul a Bible, and he will find thousands of thin paper sheets, perfect for starting a warming fire, all in a convenient wrapper!

2. Give a baby soul a Bible, and he finds comfort in the Unchangeable Word of God, an external source he can trust, so he won't succumb to his many fears!

3. Give a young soul a Bible, and he finds an in-demand royalty-free spiritual product that can easily be repackaged and sold in many ways, for great personal gain!

4. Give a mature soul a Bible, and he will become teary-eyed with emotion from reading about how Jesus healed the sick, and find new inspiration to Save the World!

5. Give an old soul a Bible, and he will smile when he realizes Jesus was in fact a kindred Old Soul, and chuckle at the way the younger souls misread the whole thing!


You see, the old soul isn't really involved with "charity". Not the way the young souls like it (I will get rich, and then I will help those I feel deserve it, the way I feel is right). And not the way mature souls like it (I will take from John to help Paul, the way I feel is right).

The old soul realizes the world already is what it is supposed to be, so there is little reason to try to "make it right".

Judas was a mature soul. His act of selling out Judas was actually motivated by his zeal for helping the poor. "Think of how many poor I can help with all that money!" That's the problem for mature souls right there, they aren't productive busy bees like the young souls, so they don't naturally attract great wealth. But they NEEED lots of money for their many humanitarian efforts, and they will do anything to get it!

But Jesus was an old soul. And so he said "you will always have the poor around you, and you can do good towards them anytime you feel like it".

Yup. Jesus never believed in abolishing poverty, because he knew it is a natural phenomenon that will always be here. And since he didn't believe the poor can be "saved" by charity, he saw charity as an act young and mature souls mainly do to satisfy their own urge to do so.

He didn't condemn that, he just pointed out, while people will always have poor to entertain themselves with by caring for them, they will not always have him, Jesus. So perhaps they could take a pause in all this caring about the world and sit down and appreciate the loving guidance of Jesus while they still have access to it?

That's exactly the perspective I described when I said I'm willing to give of myself, immediately when called upon, and without reservations.

That's the only "charity" you're likely to get out of those lazy old souls!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


That is your take on it, and you are entitled to it.

From the information we are given, Jesus depended on people's charity to eat and sleep at their houses. To think charity is something people do to satisfy their own egos is kind of backwards on its purpose. You do unto others as you do unto yourself.

"You'll not be in heaven if you're not leaning on the arm
of someone you have helped." -Edgar Cayce
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...yada yada...
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Indeed, resonates with me! Have you seen this?

Thread: December 21, 2012 - New Beginning - Earth Transforming to 4D - Tolec

When I started watching the first video I said more "mumbo jumbo" but by the time he started talking about the blue light, my light went on, I have been seeing this really vibrant blue light, kind of florescent but brighter blue and a lot more vibrant, have you seen this light?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


I honestly didn't expect much from the video, especially not when it wasted the first whole minute on "inspiring" fluff images, with the usual awful droning New Age Muzak backing!


But,

when the guy started talking, I was immediately taken by the absolute truth of what he was saying!

I verrry much resonate with this message, and will certainly head to check out the andromedacouncil.com website a bit closer!

Thanks for sharing!
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Seems like people have the information but different people have different info, makes me wonder how it all fits together, there are gaps in the information I have been shown, I don't try to fill in the gaps, seems some do try to fill in the gaps with erroneous results!
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Just think ..

with all the people wanting to 'elevate' out of consciusness..


someone intentionally came back to right it ....
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You may not realize it, but that's young soul talk.
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You may not realize it, but it's young soul talk to be wanting to be defined above others.

You have not yet the awareness that it is all the same.
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YOU ARE TESTIFYING IN THE SPIRIT< Amen
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Re: Stage 5: The Old Soul
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If you say so.

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I said MATURE souls are socialists at heart, in a hopeless romantic sort of way. I'm an OLD soul, and we don't usually care much either way, as long as it doesn't interfere too much with us personally. And even that is rarely the case, since we have such modest requirements.

I don't vote. I don't believe in anything that ends with -ism. I can understand and respect why people are drawn to any such ideology, but I'm not drawn to them myself.

If you reread my statements on socialism, you'll find I stated that it has a lousy track record, even though I recognize the good intentions of the mature souls who believe in such practices. I also said it's fine for them to have their way, in moderation.

Young souls are running the 3D world they love so much, and mature souls are interfering with it according to their well-intentioned if often naive beliefs. Old souls mostly stay out of it altogether.

This is how things are intended to be.

And that's about all I have to say on the topic of how this world should be run! If you aren't happy with the reply, you'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not going to be dragged into a debate on the finer merits of anything that ends with -ism here!
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No need to get bent out of shape. You never answered my question about how much you give though... ;)
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Fair enough.

Since I'm not a hyper-productive young soul any more, I have few earnings and thus little material surplus to share with anyone, so the answer is "close to zero".

I am however sharing myself freely with anyone that wishes that gift, immediately when called upon, and without reservations. Perhaps it's lucky for me so few are receptive to this gift, because that way I get plenty of free time to myself!

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To explain the old soul views on "charity" a bit further, I said earlier that bible-bashing christians are examples of baby souls. But that doesn't mean the bible as such can't be of use to anyone else.


1. Give an infant soul a Bible, and he will find thousands of thin paper sheets, perfect for starting a warming fire, all in a convenient wrapper!

2. Give a baby soul a Bible, and he finds comfort in the Unchangeable Word of God, an external source he can trust, so he won't succumb to his many fears!

3. Give a young soul a Bible, and he finds an in-demand royalty-free spiritual product that can easily be repackaged and sold in many ways, for great personal gain!

4. Give a mature soul a Bible, and he will become teary-eyed with emotion from reading about how Jesus healed the sick, and find new inspiration to Save the World!

5. Give an old soul a Bible, and he will smile when he realizes Jesus was in fact a kindred Old Soul, and chuckle at the way the younger souls misread the whole thing!


You see, the old soul isn't really involved with "charity". Not the way the young souls like it (I will get rich, and then I will help those I feel deserve it, the way I feel is right). And not the way mature souls like it (I will take from John to help Paul, the way I feel is right).

The old soul realizes the world already is what it is supposed to be, so there is little reason to try to "make it right".

Judas was a mature soul. His act of selling out Judas was actually motivated by his zeal for helping the poor. "Think of how many poor I can help with all that money!" That's the problem for mature souls right there, they aren't productive busy bees like the young souls, so they don't naturally attract great wealth. But they NEEED lots of money for their many humanitarian efforts, and they will do anything to get it!

But Jesus was an old soul. And so he said "you will always have the poor around you, and you can do good towards them anytime you feel like it".

Yup. Jesus never believed in abolishing poverty, because he knew it is a natural phenomenon that will always be here. And since he didn't believe the poor can be "saved" by charity, he saw charity as an act young and mature souls mainly do to satisfy their own urge to do so.

He didn't condemn that, he just pointed out, while people will always have poor to entertain themselves with by caring for them, they will not always have him, Jesus. So perhaps they could take a pause in all this caring about the world and sit down and appreciate the loving guidance of Jesus while they still have access to it?

That's exactly the perspective I described when I said I'm willing to give of myself, immediately when called upon, and without reservations.

That's the only "charity" you're likely to get out of those lazy old souls!
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That is your take on it, and you are entitled to it.

From the information we are given, Jesus depended on people's charity to eat and sleep at their houses. To think charity is something people do to satisfy their own egos is kind of backwards on its purpose. You do unto others as you do unto yourself.

"You'll not be in heaven if you're not leaning on the arm
of someone you have helped." -Edgar Cayce

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/"this is the way"

thank you for your interaction
both of you
on this thread
you solved more than you think
hf
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It's all about experience. Be honest. Do you really want to move beyond here and experience an eternal blissful state of near-nothingness.....or do you want to come back to this crazy place called Earth?
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