Stage 5: The Old Soul

There is no such thing as old or young soul. A soul is timeless, soul has no date of creation it had always been here at the part of the whole. This is MK stuff to make some people (especially in esoteric areas) feel themselves "elected".

You are the product of the potential given by your DNA and your upbringing/past history. Maybe "your" soul had more experience in refining what it wanted to be, that's all.

A so called old soul doing nothing of this potential in this life and waiting for everything as given may end up as a monkey next life for wasting the chance.

People are good actors pretending spiritual. Look at all those Indian gurus that pretend spiritual and look at their followers

Indeed, SOME people pretend spirituality, or do you think they ALL do?
Per your example, do you believe ALL Indian gurus pretend? Have you met them ALL? :)

That's a lot of judgement...

Kismet

Those undergoing the fifth and final stage of reincarnation are known as old souls. In this stage of soul evolvement there is a search for balance and completion, and an urge to pass on the torch before the end of reincarnation.

1. In the first stage, as an infant soul, it learned about physical existence, life and death, and the need for nurturing.
2. In the second stage, as a baby soul, it learned about society, culture and community, the need for structure, belonging, and playing a role.
3. In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge.
4. In the fourth stage, as a mature soul, it learned about co-existence and interrelatedness, taking responsibility for its relationships, honouring difference and otherness.

So to begin this stage, the soul will tend to focus on true self-expression and self-actualization, seeking experiences which provide personal fulfilment within life on the physical plane. This could be found in, say, acting, painting, wine-growing, gardening, flying old aeroplanes, or simply being a grandparent. The soul is not interested in success or fame so much as doing something it loves well, and finding inner satisfaction.

Then, towards the end of the stage, there is more of an emphasis on teaching rather than simply learning: passing on the lessons learnt, showing others the way.

In one of my lucid dreams, I asked how old my soul was to others on 'Earth'. Two columns of sand manifested and they started counting up. The one on the right stopped in the thousands. Mine, just kept running on and on, climbing faster and faster, never stopping.

I remember thinking, "O-o-o-o-k-k-k-k"

We're all just as old :) Perhaps the right question would be how evolved you are compared to the rest?

It was funny, because I played around in that area for hours, and the 'entities' (human looking) were definitely mischievous. They were fun though, because at the time I could not get any guides that wanted anything to do with me, so it started getting a little boring. I'm so weird, lol

The part I bolded is exactly the point. In our original home, there is indeed no value put on things. We were living in "Heaven", but we didn't have the taste buds to appreciate it to the full, so to speak.

The creation of the world of illusion we now inhabit, was done with a purpose: to allow us to learn to appreciate what is even better, by first experiencing what is not!

Darkness, pain, suffering, separation, fear, ...

These things ARE NOT! Indeed they cannot possibly be, because they are contrary to the way true reality works at its core!

Hence the world of Maya, and the veil of forgetting. A place of illusion where we can experience being separated, even though such a thing is logically impossible!

Quite clever.



Children soldiers are most likely infant souls, choosing a life experience that cuts to the chase when it comes to learning survival at its most primal. I agree they aren't likely to search the deeper recesses of the internet.

But we were talking about young souls here!


I'll write a short description of the soul ages for you:

1. Infant Souls. Are learning survival in the human form, and getting to know the meaning of "conflict". And so that's what their life experience will be centered around. They will probably NOT post on GLP!

2. Baby Souls. Have figured out there has to be a way to make sense of this world, and think they have found it in some system of RIGID LAW. They are orthodox jews, bible-bashing christians, and fundamentalist muslims. Their political views are likewise inherited without questioning, and firm like bedrock. They WILL come to GLP, to "save" everyone else by spreading their new-found wisdom!

3. Young Souls. Have mastered everything about this life! They are the inventors, engineers, statesmen, business leaders, cultural stars and so on. Practically everyone that "made a name" for themselves is a young soul, because they are focused on just that - conquering and mastering the illusionary world around them. They prefer to be atheists, and are drawn to political views like libertarianism, because it's about rewarding those who get ahead. They will come to GLP to argue too, if their heavy schedule allows it!

4. Mature Souls. Have developed a soft spot for the weak and suffering, and enjoy New Age messages of Love and Light. Politically, they are often drawn to socialism, because they wish to help their fellow man. Of course, socialism has a track record of creating hell on Earth, but the Mature Soul wishes it would work. It's the Heart path, after all.

5. Old Souls. Have lost interest in the world for the most part, and are trying to improve themselves, with little regard for whether that quest will lead to external success or not. And so it rarely does. They have a great sense of humor, and can actually come off as trolls to those who do not understand their relaxed attitude. They come to GLP, because of the relative lack of censorship - they prefer facing themselves and others as they truly are, rather than keeping up appearances. They will post inspiring posts one minute, and crude jokes the next, because they are all that, and more. And they fully accept and embrace this.

I'd have to agree. Even if the young soul/old soul stuff were true, an "old soul" would not call attention to themselves nor would they point out a young soul in a derogatory manner. Humility would reign.

Why bother "labeling" people here? How do you know that older souls prefer socialism? Since when is Libertarianism about "getting ahead"?... that is not what it is about. I am a Libertarian, not to get ahead, but because I love the idea of individual freedom and rights- no labels or groups, because we are INDIVIDUALS... we are all unique. That is the beauty of it.

Indeed. It has nothing to do with being greater or lesser than others, or feeling "elected." Nor does it have anything to do with DNA - if anything, your physical DNA will work against your true nature. What it is is simply having experienced more than others - that's no reason to say I'm better than you, or really that I know better than you (because truth is relative to the individual and is shaped according to the experiences that happen to them), it simply means I've seen a lot more, been through a lot more, realized a lot more, etc...which, in time, so will you.

Now, the good news is that everything is circular, and just like spring comes after winter, so too do the stages. Being an old soul doesn't mean reaching the end, but a new beginning. Not a complete fresh start, as my experiences and gained truths will still be with me (if not in memory then in my heart), but at the same time it will be like I'm a brand new soul all over again. And the same goes for every other soul - including yours.

Your DNA has much to do. This defines how well or how bad you are able to process information. Within a dysfunctional body and less than appropriate information, the capacity of your soul is less than rubbish because you will not have the tools to even receive the hints from your soul.

Blame a blind for not being able to see colours.

OK MR. Sweden..You get the prize.. a right and proper evaluation! LOL. oh yes you all know I AM after all an OLD SOUL who has tried..sometimes successfully (altho it is true I don't care) and sometimes I do get good Karma for all my effort.. and YES I came to GLP for that very reason.. BUT I will add one more thing..OLD SOULS do NOT suffer fools or regard Mature Souls as having what needs to be used to find themselves.. work ethic. This is very important for all you Libs that are somehow deluded into thinking they have the high ground because they use Crystals or Meditate or vote for Obama..he IS EVIL incarnate and that one statement in highlights tells it all. And because I DO have knowledge that many of you lack..I will be kind and when I say I KNOW it is because I DO... those that argue with me..which I have taken great care to only do when necessary.. must understand what a shift it is to go to Old soul..when your ego no longer props you up..all your "friends" disappear and you are left with KNOWING but also WAITING for that moment when the Mature Soul...understands what is happening to them. Rough road..and I may add that True Christians/Catholics and Jews can NEVER make. When I realized this in this lifetime I really had to fall back on my Shaolin Training. One that taught me NO ONE RELIGION..shows you the path. It is a little from all..it is the GREAT BROTHERHOOD OF LIGHT..the WHITE LIGHT that is the COMBINATION OF ALL COLORS ALL RELIGIONS that you draw from.. no kidding! So I agree with this poster on his assessment..with the added part of course..

What does it matter to be experienced to be reborn in a new family with active memory wiped out and a family doing everything to prevent you to find your potential out of superstition or because a mainstream book says it is bad.

It helps very much to say "jay, I'm an old soul!".
As per your definition no young soul would find their way on this forum anyway.

I would rather bet that since the side a soul is taking is predestined by the first experience on this earth, any first time soul would be currently on the worst MK environment of this planet.

Thks for yr post Funney - I have read that the soul builds the body. And so an infant soul builds a down syndrome body, and in the eyes of the Universe it is a perfect body as it reflects the point of consciousness the soul has reached.
The body is refined in each reincarnation until no trace of downs syndrome is seen and the body becomes taller, leaner, no stubby fingers, and the ears become nicely placed etc.

Would welcome yr comments.

AC 300884 and AC 27611142 - thanx for sharing as you have... we are kindred :)

Kismet

Those undergoing the fifth and final stage of reincarnation are known as old souls. In this stage of soul evolvement there is a search for balance and completion, and an urge to pass on the torch before the end of reincarnation.

1. In the first stage, as an infant soul, it learned about physical existence, life and death, and the need for nurturing.
2. In the second stage, as a baby soul, it learned about society, culture and community, the need for structure, belonging, and playing a role.
3. In the third stage, as a young soul, it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge.
4. In the fourth stage, as a mature soul, it learned about co-existence and interrelatedness, taking responsibility for its relationships, honouring difference and otherness.

So to begin this stage, the soul will tend to focus on true self-expression and self-actualization, seeking experiences which provide personal fulfilment within life on the physical plane. This could be found in, say, acting, painting, wine-growing, gardening, flying old aeroplanes, or simply being a grandparent. The soul is not interested in success or fame so much as doing something it loves well, and finding inner satisfaction.

Then, towards the end of the stage, there is more of an emphasis on teaching rather than simply learning: passing on the lessons learnt, showing others the way.

if you want it simply and quick, imagine these stages in this manner:

The Call->The Search->The Struggle->The Breakthrough->The Return

feel free to ask
its free and its time

The part I bolded is exactly the point. In our original home, there is indeed no value put on things. We were living in "Heaven", but we didn't have the taste buds to appreciate it to the full, so to speak.

The creation of the world of illusion we now inhabit, was done with a purpose: to allow us to learn to appreciate what is even better, by first experiencing what is not!

Darkness, pain, suffering, separation, fear, ...

These things ARE NOT! Indeed they cannot possibly be, because they are contrary to the way true reality works at its core!

Hence the world of Maya, and the veil of forgetting. A place of illusion where we can experience being separated, even though such a thing is logically impossible!

Quite clever.



Children soldiers are most likely infant souls, choosing a life experience that cuts to the chase when it comes to learning survival at its most primal. I agree they aren't likely to search the deeper recesses of the internet.

But we were talking about young souls here!


I'll write a short description of the soul ages for you:

1. Infant Souls. Are learning survival in the human form, and getting to know the meaning of "conflict". And so that's what their life experience will be centered around. They will probably NOT post on GLP!

2. Baby Souls. Have figured out there has to be a way to make sense of this world, and think they have found it in some system of RIGID LAW. They are orthodox jews, bible-bashing christians, and fundamentalist muslims. Their political views are likewise inherited without questioning, and firm like bedrock. They WILL come to GLP, to "save" everyone else by spreading their new-found wisdom!

3. Young Souls. Have mastered everything about this life! They are the inventors, engineers, statesmen, business leaders, cultural stars and so on. Practically everyone that "made a name" for themselves is a young soul, because they are focused on just that - conquering and mastering the illusionary world around them. They prefer to be atheists, and are drawn to political views like libertarianism, because it's about rewarding those who get ahead. They will come to GLP to argue too, if their heavy schedule allows it!

4. Mature Souls. Have developed a soft spot for the weak and suffering, and enjoy New Age messages of Love and Light. Politically, they are often drawn to socialism, because they wish to help their fellow man. Of course, socialism has a track record of creating hell on Earth, but the Mature Soul wishes it would work. It's the Heart path, after all.

5. Old Souls. Have lost interest in the world for the most part, and are trying to improve themselves, with little regard for whether that quest will lead to external success or not. And so it rarely does. They have a great sense of humor, and can actually come off as trolls to those who do not understand their relaxed attitude. They come to GLP, because of the relative lack of censorship - they prefer facing themselves and others as they truly are, rather than keeping up appearances. They will post inspiring posts one minute, and crude jokes the next, because they are all that, and more. And they fully accept and embrace this.

It's hard for me to tell whereabouts in the Etheric plane you're going from your previous posts. Do you want to do some entity work?

Try giving some kind of offering to a holy Angel before leaving this plane...

Uriel the Archangel for instance is for spiritual development and guidance. It would be appropriate to wear some red and light a red candle.

Then recite a litany to the Holy Archangels (with Uriel included)
[link to michaelseblux.wordpress.com]

Here's the traditional Anglican prayer:

Oh holy Saint Uriel, intercede for us that our hearts may burn with the fire of the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
Assist us in co-operating with the graces of our confirmation that the gifts of the
Holy Spirit may bear much fruit in our souls.
Obtain for us the grace to use the sword of truth to pare away all that is not in conformity to the most adorable
Will of God in our lives, that we may fully participate in the army of the Church
Amen

Don't be too put off with the Christian tones; I banish with holy water before scrying and it works a LOT better than the LBRP, etc. It's very noticeable.

I'd have to agree. Even if the young soul/old soul stuff were true, an "old soul" would not call attention to themselves nor would they point out a young soul in a derogatory manner. Humility would reign.

There is no such thing as old or young soul. A soul is timeless, soul has no date of creation it had always been here at the part of the whole. This is MK stuff to make some people (especially in esoteric areas) feel themselves "elected".

You are the product of the potential given by your DNA and your upbringing/past history. Maybe "your" soul had more experience in refining what it wanted to be, that's all.

A so called old soul doing nothing of this potential in this life and waiting for everything as given may end up as a monkey next life for wasting the chance.

Maybe OP expressed it a way which you found jarring. From my perspective an "old soul", is one that has spent a lot of time on the earth cycle and is coming to he end of its education here.