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Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world

 
Dr.DoomLittle

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On the contrary, the carbon tax issue should be used to identify politicians worldwide that push its putative validitiy so that they can be forcibly removed.
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clappa

And to identify infiltrators
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
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The poor of the world should turn it all into carbon .....
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Westerners just consume and consume, eating up the whole planet in one greedy bite. There's no end to the shit coming in from China.

Yet, here we are still wanting. Still bored. Chasing threads on GLP.

For a lot of peoples in the world, the doom is real, bitchez.
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Some people would flush the toilet in a second , and everything in it ....

to give an infant a shot
Dr.DoomLittle

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Just sayin'
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
Our jobs as humans is not to take care of those who refuse to take care of themselves. Just because we are better off is only because our forefathers that came before us worked hard for us to have what we have, not to just give it all away for people's whose forefathers didn't do shit.
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All the colonialists stole the wealth (resources) from the indigenous peoples of those lands. Your and our forefathers ignorantly presumed that because the "savages" did not appear to have a fungible proxy (money) then they had no claim on the natural resources.

Sure, generatoins have toiled. But the initial principal was thieved. "Vengeance is mine. I will repay them" says the Lord. Thus, this "civilisation" will be forced to share eventually.
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You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
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You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' resources to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
This is the internet. Your opinion is irrelevant, unless you own a pornsite.
Dr.DoomLittle

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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


You are correct; however the UN, Like the US, is a pawn of the global banking initiative of a one world currency. Or why the effort to move authority to a global one? The whole carbon taxation system is a scam; who else would dream a tax on breathing?

So you cannot advocated the Carbon taxation system that supports the same system. Its the system of elitist dictatorship that is the problem. Bankers create money, bribe and corrupt governments, then capture policy of said governments. Now they want to tax the world.

Why not confiscate the wealth of the top .05% and distribute it down throughout the population and improve the lifestyles of millions of people? After all, it is "the elite" that soft kill our children, plot the muder of 2/3 the population, create debt slavery and misery in want, and fuck up the environment?
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
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You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' resources to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


I've told you in the thread title. We will all have to do something together (systemic). Thus the carbon tax revenues should go to the development of the rest of the world. You realise that carbon tax revenues are going to go to banks as it stands at the moment?
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Just sayin'
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What a retard. Nothing more than legalized theft to enrich already rich people.
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I agree. If we have to steal, lets jack the billionaires and remove their system.

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Dr.DoomLittle

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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' resources to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


I've told you in the thread title. We will all have to do something together (systemic). Thus the carbon tax revenues should go to the development of the rest of the world. You realise that carbon tax revenues are going to go to banks as it stands at the moment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


They will attempt it through an illegitimate, self imposed, and self "ordained" authority to "tax". 'Order' is NOT ordained by god; it is a fiction of men... a fiction created so the few that created it have advantages and are not subject to the laws of said "Order".

The system today is simply gangsters; pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, ficticious ordainment, and deceptive trickery and terminology.

They call this garbage "Order".

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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
I've told you in the thread title. We will all have to do something together (systemic). Thus the carbon tax revenues should go to the development of the rest of the world. You realise that carbon tax revenues are going to go to banks as it stands at the moment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


That's what I thought.

You'll write a check to your government for breathing.

My nation hasn't been duped into that yet.
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


You are correct; however the UN, Like the US, is a pawn of the global banking initiative of a one world currency. Or why the effort to move authority to a global one? The whole carbon taxation system is a scam; who else would dream a tax on breathing?

So you cannot advocated the Carbon taxation system that supports the same system. Its the system of elitist dictatorship that is the problem. Bankers create money, bribe and corrupt governments, then capture policy of said governments. Now they want to tax the world.

Why not confiscate the wealth of the top .05% and distribute it down throughout the population and improve the lifestyles of millions of people? After all, it is "the elite" that soft kill our children, plot the muder of 2/3 the population, create debt slavery and misery in want, and fuck up the environment?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Some good points Dr. Yeah, I guess you could do some wealth re-distribution from the top 0.05% or whatever. But the real change is going to be systemic paradigm shift. The carbon tax is not a tax on breathing, it is a tax on the consumption habits of the humanoid carbon-based life form

It will ultimately become one of the means of population control. Individuals will have an allocation of carbon credits, limitation of one child per family etc, more gay people etc.
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
I've told you in the thread title. We will all have to do something together (systemic). Thus the carbon tax revenues should go to the development of the rest of the world. You realise that carbon tax revenues are going to go to banks as it stands at the moment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


That's what I thought.

You'll write a check to your government for breathing.

My nation hasn't been duped into that yet.
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Oh, you will be getting Agenda 21, too. That's what Obummer is for.
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo.

Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


You are correct; however the UN, Like the US, is a pawn of the global banking initiative of a one world currency. Or why the effort to move authority to a global one? The whole carbon taxation system is a scam; who else would dream a tax on breathing?

So you cannot advocated the Carbon taxation system that supports the same system. Its the system of elitist dictatorship that is the problem. Bankers create money, bribe and corrupt governments, then capture policy of said governments. Now they want to tax the world.

Why not confiscate the wealth of the top .05% and distribute it down throughout the population and improve the lifestyles of millions of people? After all, it is "the elite" that soft kill our children, plot the muder of 2/3 the population, create debt slavery and misery in want, and fuck up the environment?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Some good points Dr. Yeah, I guess you could do some wealth re-distribution from the top 0.05% or whatever. But the real change is going to be systemic paradigm shift. The carbon tax is not a tax on breathing, it is a tax on the consumption habits of the humanoid carbon-based life form

It will ultimately become one of the means of population control. Individuals will have an allocation of carbon credits, limitation of one child per family etc, more gay people etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


Well, I am all for a paradigm shift.

But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick.

This particular boot I would like to amputate.

I WANT a legitimate representative authority that operates in good faith to the vast population.

I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed:

1. Is it comprehensive? What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now.

2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling said policing authority to piss off? How would this effect the current payers? Would they not revolt?

3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exceptions that will delegitimize the system altogether?

i.e.

Is this the type of order I just described in the above post:

I will quote myself:

"The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control.

and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws.

The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive
trickery and terminology. They call it "Order".


Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. "

So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by?

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If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


You are correct; however the UN, Like the US, is a pawn of the global banking initiative of a one world currency. Or why the effort to move authority to a global one? The whole carbon taxation system is a scam; who else would dream a tax on breathing?

So you cannot advocated the Carbon taxation system that supports the same system. Its the system of elitist dictatorship that is the problem. Bankers create money, bribe and corrupt governments, then capture policy of said governments. Now they want to tax the world.

Why not confiscate the wealth of the top .05% and distribute it down throughout the population and improve the lifestyles of millions of people? After all, it is "the elite" that soft kill our children, plot the muder of 2/3 the population, create debt slavery and misery in want, and fuck up the environment?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Some good points Dr. Yeah, I guess you could do some wealth re-distribution from the top 0.05% or whatever. But the real change is going to be systemic paradigm shift. The carbon tax is not a tax on breathing, it is a tax on the consumption habits of the humanoid carbon-based life form

It will ultimately become one of the means of population control. Individuals will have an allocation of carbon credits, limitation of one child per family etc, more gay people etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


Well, I am all for a paradigm shift.

But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick.

This particular boot I would like to amputate.

I WANT a legitimate representative authorty that operates in good faith to the vast population.

I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed:

1. What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now.

2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling them to piss off?

3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exception that will delegitimize te sstem altogether?

i.e.

Is this the type of order I just described in the above post:

I will quote myself:

"The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control.

and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws.

The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive
trickery and terminology. They call it "Order".


Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. "

So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



There's going to come a great and terrible calamity on a global scale. Then, there is going to arise a great and glorious leader. Nearly everyone will capitulate to that leader and ask for an orderly system with which everyone will want to comply.

Those who don't want to comply will be executed (because they will be seen as the cause of the great calamity that was visited on the earth).

Some call this leader "anti-Christ", because he will do away with all of the old ways.
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You are correct; however the UN, Like the US, is a pawn of the global banking initiative of a one world currency. Or why the effort to move authority to a global one? The whole carbon taxation system is a scam; who else would dream a tax on breathing?

So you cannot advocated the Carbon taxation system that supports the same system. Its the system of elitist dictatorship that is the problem. Bankers create money, bribe and corrupt governments, then capture policy of said governments. Now they want to tax the world.

Why not confiscate the wealth of the top .05% and distribute it down throughout the population and improve the lifestyles of millions of people? After all, it is "the elite" that soft kill our children, plot the muder of 2/3 the population, create debt slavery and misery in want, and fuck up the environment?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Some good points Dr. Yeah, I guess you could do some wealth re-distribution from the top 0.05% or whatever. But the real change is going to be systemic paradigm shift. The carbon tax is not a tax on breathing, it is a tax on the consumption habits of the humanoid carbon-based life form

It will ultimately become one of the means of population control. Individuals will have an allocation of carbon credits, limitation of one child per family etc, more gay people etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


Well, I am all for a paradigm shift.

But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick.

This particular boot I would like to amputate.

I WANT a legitimate representative authority that operates in good faith to the vast population.

I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed:

1. Is it comprehensive? What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now.

2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling said policing authority to piss off? How would this effect the current payers? Would they not revolt?

3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exceptions that will delegitimize the system altogether?

i.e.

Is this the type of order I just described in the above post:

I will quote myself:

"The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control.

and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws.

The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive
trickery and terminology. They call it "Order".


Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. "

So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by?

 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



There's going to come a great and terrible calamity on a global scale. Then, there is going to arise a great and glorious leader. Nearly everyone will capitulate to that leader and ask for an orderly system with which everyone will want to comply.

Those who don't want to comply will be executed (because they will be seen as the cause of the great calamity that was visited on the earth).

Some call this leader "anti-Christ", because he will do away with all of the old ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


That is a stretch.

There is a false assumption there; a dire UNDERESTIMATION of the intelligence of the population; and, specifically, an OVERESTIMATION of the cloak that conceals the elitist agenda you just described.

It will be achieved by coercion and force, not by the legitimate "cover" you just described; and suspicion of the source of said "calamity" will be placed soley upon the elite.

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Some good points Dr. Yeah, I guess you could do some wealth re-distribution from the top 0.05% or whatever. But the real change is going to be systemic paradigm shift. The carbon tax is not a tax on breathing, it is a tax on the consumption habits of the humanoid carbon-based life form

It will ultimately become one of the means of population control. Individuals will have an allocation of carbon credits, limitation of one child per family etc, more gay people etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


Well, I am all for a paradigm shift.

But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick.

This particular boot I would like to amputate.

I WANT a legitimate representative authorty that operates in good faith to the vast population.

I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed:

1. What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now.

2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling them to piss off?

3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exception that will delegitimize te sstem altogether?

i.e.

Is this the type of order I just described in the above post:

I will quote myself:

"The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control.

and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws.

The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive
trickery and terminology. They call it "Order".


Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. "

So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



There's going to come a great and terrible calamity on a global scale. Then, there is going to arise a great and glorious leader. Nearly everyone will capitulate to that leader and ask for an orderly system with which everyone will want to comply.

Those who don't want to comply will be executed (because they will be seen as the cause of the great calamity that was visited on the earth).

Some call this leader "anti-Christ", because he will do away with all of the old ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


That is a stretch.

There is a false assumption there; a dire UNDERESTIMATION of the intelligence of the population; and, specifically, an OVERESTIMATION of the cloak that conceals the elitist agenda you just described.

It will be achieved by coercion and force, not by the legitimate "cover" you just described; and suspicion of the source of said "calamity" will placed soley upon the elite.
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Thanks Dr. You can't underestimate the intelligence of the populi. I guess, like me, you don't watch much TV. If you did, you would see what I mean. The populi is like a very strong bull that can be easily led with just a little ring through its nose!

There is going to be something legitimately supernatural about all of this. That is why, even intelligent people will capitulate. The leader will not come from the elite that we know of.
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Well, I am all for a paradigm shift.

But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick.

This particular boot I would like to amputate.

I WANT a legitimate representative authorty that operates in good faith to the vast population.

I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed:

1. What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now.

2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling them to piss off?

3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exception that will delegitimize te sstem altogether?

i.e.

Is this the type of order I just described in the above post:

I will quote myself:

"The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control.

and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws.

The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive
trickery and terminology. They call it "Order".


Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. "

So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



There's going to come a great and terrible calamity on a global scale. Then, there is going to arise a great and glorious leader. Nearly everyone will capitulate to that leader and ask for an orderly system with which everyone will want to comply.

Those who don't want to comply will be executed (because they will be seen as the cause of the great calamity that was visited on the earth).

Some call this leader "anti-Christ", because he will do away with all of the old ways.
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That is a stretch.

There is a false assumption there; a dire UNDERESTIMATION of the intelligence of the population; and, specifically, an OVERESTIMATION of the cloak that conceals the elitist agenda you just described.

It will be achieved by coercion and force, not by the legitimate "cover" you just described; and suspicion of the source of said "calamity" will placed soley upon the elite.
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Thanks Dr. You can't underestimate the intelligence of the populi. I guess, like me, you don't watch much TV. If you did, you would see what I mean. The populi is like a very strong bull that can be easily led with just a little ring through its nose!

There is going to be something legitimately supernatural about all of this. That is why, even intelligent people will capitulate. The leader will not come from the elite that we know of.
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This is if we do not reform ourselves first. Hence the thread title.
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Well, I am all for a paradigm shift.

But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick.

This particular boot I would like to amputate.

I WANT a legitimate representative authorty that operates in good faith to the vast population.

I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed:

1. What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now.

2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling them to piss off?

3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exception that will delegitimize te sstem altogether?

i.e.

Is this the type of order I just described in the above post:

I will quote myself:

"The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control.

and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws.

The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive
trickery and terminology. They call it "Order".


Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. "

So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by?
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



There's going to come a great and terrible calamity on a global scale. Then, there is going to arise a great and glorious leader. Nearly everyone will capitulate to that leader and ask for an orderly system with which everyone will want to comply.

Those who don't want to comply will be executed (because they will be seen as the cause of the great calamity that was visited on the earth).

Some call this leader "anti-Christ", because he will do away with all of the old ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


That is a stretch.

There is a false assumption there; a dire UNDERESTIMATION of the intelligence of the population; and, specifically, an OVERESTIMATION of the cloak that conceals the elitist agenda you just described.

It will be achieved by coercion and force, not by the legitimate "cover" you just described; and suspicion of the source of said "calamity" will placed soley upon the elite.
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Thanks Dr. You can't underestimate the intelligence of the populi. I guess, like me, you don't watch much TV. If you did, you would see what I mean. The populi is like a very strong bull that can be easily led with just a little ring through its nose!

There is going to be something legitimately supernatural about all of this. That is why, even intelligent people will capitulate. The leader will not come from the elite that we know of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23343731


No I dont watch TV at all. I know what you escibe about the population; they CHOOSE to be this way, I dont think it is that they do not see....

The only way I would be convinced of what you describe is a flipping of the triangle.

A complete removal of the current power structure, replaced with a system of free enterprise, free speech, non authoritarianism, yet still can assure that ALL members of the new society have the freedom to live, and a warm place to sleep and die.

How could there be preknowledge of this cataclysmic event? There are alot of independent researchers that would see it coming as well; if not, one would have to expect the cataclysmic event was created for the sole purpose of instituting the new Order... and I am suspicious of ANY Order now; thanks to exploitation by the above and below...

So, what am I to think>? I am inapable of truly believing Order is a good faith institution.

It would have to be a comprehensive cataclysm.

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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
Carbon Tax my ass, it's a tax just for BEING ALIVE.

All orchistrated by Al Gore to make himself filthy rich.
The Governments of the WORLD get more than they need collectively to solve ALL of the Earth's problems.

I am sick to fucking death of some new tax on this or that "to help the poor" or "it's for the children", BULLSHIT! Those elected fucktards just need to be a better stewards of the monies entrusted to them by the PEOPLE WHO PAY THE TAXES!

That's our money they are spending and I will be damned if they are taking a fucking cent more for a CARBON tax!

NO MORE BULLSHIT TAXES!
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Please ignore the German flag, I am an American.

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
I agree cut back to

using only locally produced fuels , thats minus 500 million middle east assholes , who will rudely discover that they can't eat oil or sand.

giving the topsoil a break via producing enough food for ourselves and a sensible surplus , plus a little for trade . minus 2 billion more assholes who can't be bothered to stop hyper breeding.

convert vast swathes of marginal land into hemp for industrial/fuel/food purposes.

repatriate all those who can't feed themselves via work

redeploy military all along the borders to repel unwanted guests


voila problem solved )
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
ya know
I am sick and tired of lies and
marketing gimmicks and scams

I remember 25 yrs ago
they once told me that
Cable TV would have NO
advertisements to get
me to buy it.

within 2 yrs, it had
commercials on it.

now they're telling me
the carbon tax will be used
to feed the poor

within 2 yrs, it will be going
into the pocket of some Zionist
bullsh!t scam artist.
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Re: Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
Absolutely!

The poor should breed more poor with our help!
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There are plenty of resources. The West just needs
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There are plenty of resourcs. The tinpot dictators over those poor countries just need to stop being so greedy. We could easily look after 20 billion on this planet.

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