Tulsa: Little Bitch Boy Kicking in Neighborhood Doors...

Shotgun buckshot, one dollar.

New door, three hundred dollars.

Seeing this mother fucker wide eyed on my lawn with a smokin' hole in his mother fucking sternum, priceless.

For every thing like this, there's Remington!

Better that he got himself and his family out without incident.

Who really wants to live with the fact of killimg a 19 yr old kid who was probably high as fuck on synthetic pot or something?

WTF? Where do people even come up with this? Why not high on PCP, Meth, Crack, etc.....but synthetic pot? You do know that OD's on this stuff (loosely translated as "getting high as fuck") cause palpitations and panic---not home invasions. Nice try, though, dumb-ass.

Here in OK, most of us could live with that sort of knowledge just fine.

In fact, we would look at it as 'Heck, we saved the little old lady down the street from a home invasion'.

They ran??? Stand up like a man and protect your home and family. I would have been waiting at the front door with my mini-14.

I know that since there is no standard recipe, you cannot possibly know the potential effects of ingestion.

With my own eyes, I've seen people commit violent assaults while high on that shit.

Never seen that happen on the real thing.

Last Edited by Evil_Twin on 11/14/2012 09:19 AM

True, there's isn't any standardization across brands, blends, and types. However, it's the stimulants and dissociatives that cause the near-insanity behavior. Everything is possible, to be sure. However, what's more LIKELY and PROBABLE? Bath Salts/Meth/Crack and alcohol or THC and its analogues? The "go-to" drug reference for this type of activity should be something other than "pot"--synthetic or otherwise.

i wonder if that is miggys neighborhood?...

Last Edited by thetrickybigguy on 11/14/2012 09:36 AM

Look, I have nothing against marijuana. I think it should be legal.

The synthetic crap that kids are smoking around here, though, is clearly a dis-associative drug. They smoke that shit and black out for 12 hours, and act completely insane.

And yeah, that is the drug I suspect first, because anybody can walk into a gas station and buy the shit over the counter here.

It is a huge problem here. They outlaw it one week, and the next week, the manufacturers have tweaked the recipe just enough to make it legal again, and the people smoking it just keep acting more and more psycho.

sage words from a cat with a lime helmet

Synthetic cannabinoids are illegal in Oklahoma: [link to www.ncsl.org]

Also, the 12-hour black-out cannot be caused by a CB agent--it's just not physically possible. Blackouts are caused by paranoid psychosis, opiods, alcohol, and benzos/barbiturates. Now, don't get my wrong--I do not support people using this crap. However, I do have a problem with demonizing a chemical or group of chemicals because of the actions of a small minority of its users. The percentage of addled, crazed axe-murderering-home-invading-types smoking K2 is low--so low, that an appropriate connection between crime and synthetic cannabinoid abuse has not been established to the degree of CERTAINTY that said link HAS been established with other, aforementioned chemicals.

UPDATED LINK:
[link to www.ncsl.org]

LOL.

Burglary and home invasion and trespassing are illegal in Oklahoma too.

What makes you think that K2 and Spice are still synthetic cannabis?

Other than that they look vaguely similar to marijuana?

The people here that are high on that crap act nothing like anyone who is taking cannabis. More like a bad LSD or 'shroom trip, usually.

Then why not call it that instead of making yourself look like a knee-jerk tool who's ignorant of pharmacology?

Go ahead and cram the last word in now...I know you can't help yourself...

check them out after prolonged use. closer to "dust muffins". i know a couple of schizoids that have it more together than the fools who long term that crap. tried the crap when it first hit the streets here in ft laud, instant migraine that lasted 2 days from a few hits. i said "no thanks" after that. the stuff is NOTHING like weed.

What makes you think that K2 and Spice are still synthetic cannabis?

Other than that they look vaguely similar to marijuana?

I hear ya, man. Have seen the same here on the West coast of FL.

For some reason though, skeptic here is butthurt about the fact that what is being marketed as synthetic pot is nothing at all like pot, and that is somehow my fault.

I' not the one selling the shit to kids and telling them it's like smoking a bowl of kush.

Now I think you've turned full on liberal!!!!

Yea I might have hurt his feelings too! AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

The "synthetic pot" moniker is a gambit to link synthetic cannabinoids with the real thing, when the similarities are easily discerned by anyone with common sense. When will you people finally get sick of being manipulated and told what to think? I agree with the notion that the stuff is dangerous, and that it's NOT the same thing as natural cannabis. However, the original statement you made that this crime was probably committed by kids "high as fuck off synthetic pot" was a ridiculous and unfounded statement.

Why not blame jimson weed? How about glue sniffing? Maybe one of the MANY legal psychedelics? It's incompetent and lazy to pick the "scary drug du jour" pinpointed, named, and pushed upon the media by the DEA and link it to violent crime--in fact, it makes you look like you're either completely ignorant, or you're pushing the very same agenda which created the K2 meme from the get-go.

nobody here is downing weed, or weed smokers. E-T didnt come up with the synthetic pot moniker. just about everybody in the country refers to that garbage by that generic term. weed rocks. k2, spice, mr niceguy et al are fucking brain wasting garbage. i have seen them cause symptoms of brain damage in users on a few occasions. i'm 50 and have smoked weed for over 3 decades. i'm not put off by folks referring to that trash as "synthetic pot", it's what they market it as. i remember when "high times" had ads for similar blends in the 70s. chill out man, nobody is saying weed is going to make you a home invading psycho terror rapist/brigand.

not everybody is sitting waiting to pump holes in folks that could have been avoided. i'd rather be perceived as a coward and retreat (if i could do so safely) than pump bullets in a fool. no police hassle. no self recrimination after the fact. no stray bullets killing the neighbor's chihuahua. no chance of a kevlar encrusted bad guy pumping holes in the wife and kids in a shootout. if your back is to the wall, by all means fight em off. if it isnt, lots would prefer to just scram from the scene

I realize that, and that's not the thrust of my argument. What I'm saying is that we don't need another demonized chemical agent with a convenient, easy-to-remember name to blame crime on--we have plenty of them already. If drugs were involved in this break-in (and they probably were), it was almost certainly NOT "synthetic pot." Odds are that the primary chemical in question would be alcohol first, crack/cocaine second, and pharmaceuticals third. Who the hell breaks into homes for cash to "score" some chemical-laced herbs from the 7-11???

South Tulsa is rich snobs north Tulsa is black , that's the demo