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Christians: Could We Be Farther Along in Revelation Then We Thought?

 
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Good Question Lisa.....

In my spiritual discernment, I think the tribulation started in 2008...The 7 year Warning was 9/11/2001 based on the Harbingers as well as Mark Blitz prophetic teachings that Jesus would return in Fall of 2015 based on the Lunar Tetrads.


What we don't know is when the Rapture happens, it will be swift and suddenly, we know the seasons but not the day and time....

I believe the Great Tribulation has started and will increase in troubles as we see it in Catastrophic Weather Conditions, the Moral and Financial Collapse and as Nations grow more hostile towards Israel...

A Time of Jacob's Trouble...

GOD Bless you..

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A good christian friend of mine told me the other day that we are at the 6th trump already, waiting for the 7th to blow.

She said that many of the things that we were waiting for have already happened in the spiritual realm, while we were waiting for them to appear in the physical realm.

I suppose this could be true, I don't know either way.

What's your thoughts on this?
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Lol.. I don't think so Lisa. The things described in the book of revelation will manifest. People will "change" things will be released and all hell will break loose on this planet. I have seen it. Your friend better get ready to see terrible things happen.
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Right, but terrible things have been happening for the last few years on a pretty big scale.

Might we already be half way through the tribulation now?

Maybe.....

Here's the verse that gets me wondering about it Matthew 24:38-39 "For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

Maybe it's not going to be as obvious as we thought it was going to be?

I don't know, just throwing it out there. It it was world wide disaster as never before, would people be eating and drinking and getting married, like life as usual?

and then 2 Peter 3:3-4 "First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
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Lisa, what has been going on is only a prelude. A warning. We may or may not have entered into the tribulation period but we sure are about to see major things happen. Count on it. I hate to come and be a party pooper on your thread but fractions of the world population will be wiped out in war, famine, disease, etc. All the destruction mentioned is mentioned for earth and the seas. Please get ready.
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No trumpets have sounded yet, they start at about mid-trib and the seventh trumpet appears alittle after mid-trib. the catching up takes place at the last trump immediately after the trib, so don`t fall away at the seventh because we have to wait for the eighth final trumpet, read matt24 v29-31.
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There is no 8th trumpet, there is only 7.
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the seven trumpets are GODS wrath during trib, the last trump is immediately after trib and is not GODS wrath so we have got about a three year wait, thats when the falling away takes place. to be more precise on the amount of days we have to wait read daniel,12 v12
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The great tribulation will be unprecedented in terms of suffering pain etc.
Yes there is the everyday sorrow that happens because of sin, but I feel like we would KNOW if we have entered this time period. How are people thinking we are already halfway through it?

Just my thinking, things are looking like it could kick off beginning 2013, which would mean the Lord would come back 2020, which seems a fitting year, because of the "clear vision" connotation.
Just a guess of course.
But I honestly feel that such sorrow would be unmatched through any period ever in history.... Ever! And I just don't feel if that is the case....yet. With all the hype of the end of 2012 coming from all angles, I can't help but think Satan has something planned... Of course none greater than the Almighty :)
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Well......maybe.
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Wormwood is the literal translation of "Chernobyl"

AKA Nuclear Fallout?
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Good Question Lisa.....

In my spiritual discernment, I think the tribulation started in 2008...The 7 year Warning was 9/11/2001 based on the Harbingers as well as Mark Blitz prophetic teachings that Jesus would return in Fall of 2015 based on the Lunar Tetrads.


What we don't know is when the Rapture happens, it will be swift and suddenly, we know the seasons but not the day and time....

I believe the Great Tribulation has started and will increase in troubles as we see it in Catastrophic Weather Conditions, the Moral and Financial Collapse and as Nations grow more hostile towards Israel...

A Time of Jacob's Trouble...

GOD Bless you..

Maranatha Jesus!!!
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Yea, I believe 2015 is a very important year too.

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A good christian friend of mine told me the other day that we are at the 6th trump already, waiting for the 7th to blow.

She said that many of the things that we were waiting for have already happened in the spiritual realm, while we were waiting for them to appear in the physical realm.

I suppose this could be true, I don't know either way.

What's your thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lol.. I don't think so Lisa. The things described in the book of revelation will manifest. People will "change" things will be released and all hell will break loose on this planet. I have seen it. Your friend better get ready to see terrible things happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27742569


Right, but terrible things have been happening for the last few years on a pretty big scale.

Might we already be half way through the tribulation now?

Maybe.....

Here's the verse that gets me wondering about it Matthew 24:38-39 "For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

Maybe it's not going to be as obvious as we thought it was going to be?

I don't know, just throwing it out there. It it was world wide disaster as never before, would people be eating and drinking and getting married, like life as usual?

and then 2 Peter 3:3-4 "First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa, what has been going on is only a prelude. A warning. We may or may not have entered into the tribulation period but we sure are about to see major things happen. Count on it. I hate to come and be a party pooper on your thread but fractions of the world population will be wiped out in war, famine, disease, etc. All the destruction mentioned is mentioned for earth and the seas. Please get ready.
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Yea, I think it's going to get worse, just don't know how much worse. Might not have as much time left here as some thought.
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Watch Beth Moore or Jeff Schreve , they and everyone knows we are pretty much done, rapture nexthfanytime now

They both did a excellent series on Revelations
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Lisa-Lisa,

Listen to Truthstream Oasis here and you will be surprised. I was myself, and have been waiting for a follow-up show.

(TSO-65) Before Armageddon: A Prophetic Timeline

[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]
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Watch Beth Moore or Jeff Schreve , they and everyone knows we are pretty much done, rapture nexthfanytime now

They both did a excellent series on Revelations
 Quoting: Goofy for God


Where is that, on youtube?
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Lisa-Lisa,

Listen to Truthstream Oasis here and you will be surprised. I was myself, and have been waiting for a follow-up show.

(TSO-65) Before Armageddon: A Prophetic Timeline

[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258462


Thanks, what do I do there? Download it? How long is it and what do they say?
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The 6th trump gets ushered in when Satan comes on the stage and not one minute before. The 7th trump is heralded in when Jesus returns.
We are close to the 6th but still in the 5th.
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I reckon the trumpets are happening in the spiritual realm, here's why;

First of all, christ said he shall come as a thief, without warning.

Also the bible states that just as in the days of Noah's flood, people will be marrying and giving in marriage, eating, drinking. Just going about their daily lives...then, WALLOP!

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no none of the trumpets have gone off lisa , maybe in your fucking la la teddy bear jesus land they probably all have , but i can assure you they havent even remotly started .... you and your fake fucking shitty little liberal christians really fucking feul my fire ...

fake bastards ...
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Lada D : Yes the Hemi-sync guy.....His last two books show how he actualy did get out of the hamster cage. Far Journeys and Ultimate Journey . I will warn you though......you must be willing to see past the hamster cage :)
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Many things have happened NOT in the spiritual realm. They happened right in front of our eyes. Reason why we can't see these things is because we have been programmed to believe some of these things are to be much worse than they actually are.

For example, look at Fukushima. "Entire cities will be swept away by the seas"....

Reading this and seeing this on youtube are two different things. Reading it ones imagination can run wild ultimately blocking out the visions writing it off as fictional or exaggerated. But seeing this on youtube one can clearly see entire cities were swept away by the sea. Look at Indonesia tsunami, there is another one.

Keep in mind revelations is out of order. To get the best understanding of order you need to run through Bible cross references.

Yes, in my opinion we are well into revelations.

Better days soon ahead.
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Nibiru is part of the seal 6 if I'm not mistaken. personally I believe that will be the last trumpet sound. When the sun becomes black as sacloth and moon red blood. The earth shaken like a drunkard. And the clouds receeding like a scroll.If I'm not mistaken it will be like three days. At the beginning of this is when the chiefs and powerful men will go into hiding into the Mountains or D.U.M.B. Deep Underground Military Bases. I personally believe that before this event something will happen worse than 9/11 and start the persecution of christians in this Country.
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GOD's wrath will come after the Rapture, that is when GOD will remove his Spiritual Protection from the earth...


As GOD removes his shield from earth, wether that maybe the Magnetic Field or some other type of atmospheric protection, it will allow Satan to wreak havoc on the planet....


This is the test of the Tribulation Saints, because thousands upon thousands of people who did not come to faith, or who's faith has been weakened by a godless society will finally realize that GOD is real and just and his mercy is only found in the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world...JESUS OUR CHRIST....


Right now the Spirit of Satan cannot torture GOD's saints because we are protected with the Spiritual Armour of Christ, and that is why the USA could never outlaw the Christian faith or burn down churches, we are protected super-naturally...


As I said yesterday, the Mark of the Beast might be some kind of Genetic Engineering that will implant a Lucifer demonic type of DNA into people that accept the *Mark* that is why Jesus will not be able to *Save* those individuals, because Jesus did not die to save Satan and the Fallen Angels, he died to save 100% human beings by his blood.

As in the Days of NOAH...


The Tribulation Saints will literally go through Hell...But GOD promises is that even though they die by the sword, the shall live and there deeds will follow them...

That is why it is so important people accept Jesus and make the *Rapture*

Some prophetic teachings say the *Door* to the Rapture has been shut, and many people who come to faith now will have to go through the GREAT AND FINAL TRIBULATION, if that is the case may we pray for them constantly, because I know I have family members and friends that will have to endure the Great Tribulation....
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Many things have happened NOT in the spiritual realm. They happened right in front of our eyes. Reason why we can't see these things is because we have been programmed to believe some of these things are to be much worse than they actually are.

For example, look at Fukushima. "Entire cities will be swept away by the seas"....

Reading this and seeing this on youtube are two different things. Reading it ones imagination can run wild ultimately blocking out the visions writing it off as fictional or exaggerated. But seeing this on youtube one can clearly see entire cities were swept away by the sea. Look at Indonesia tsunami, there is another one.

Keep in mind revelations is out of order. To get the best understanding of order you need to run through Bible cross references.

Yes, in my opinion we are well into revelations.

Better days soon ahead.
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Yea, that's what I"m starting to wonder too. Maybe I was expecting something other then the way it really is coming down. I expected it to be incredibly obvious, and it might not be.
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Lisa-Lisa,

Listen to Truthstream Oasis here and you will be surprised. I was myself, and have been waiting for a follow-up show.

(TSO-65) Before Armageddon: A Prophetic Timeline

[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]
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Thanks, what do I do there? Download it? How long is it and what do they say?
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you can download 2.50
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A good christian friend of mine told me the other day that we are at the 6th trump already, waiting for the 7th to blow.

She said that many of the things that we were waiting for have already happened in the spiritual realm, while we were waiting for them to appear in the physical realm.

I suppose this could be true, I don't know either way.

What's your thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I'm sorry Sister, but we are just now entering into the birth pains. The 4 horsemen are running as I type this. Expect things too heat up, but also expect to be here for awhile too further the Gospel of our Lord Jesus. He is coming for the dead first, and the those who remain will be caught up.....7th trumpet. We aren't destined for His wrath, once again that starts at the 7th trumpet. He is coming at a time we think He is NOT coming, which for the church here in the USA think He is coming sooner than later, we all need to pray for the remnant. God bless you Sister.
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The great tribulation will be unprecedented in terms of suffering pain etc.
Yes there is the everyday sorrow that happens because of sin, but I feel like we would KNOW if we have entered this time period. How are people thinking we are already halfway through it?

Just my thinking, things are looking like it could kick off beginning 2013, which would mean the Lord would come back 2020, which seems a fitting year, because of the "clear vision" connotation.
Just a guess of course.
But I honestly feel that such sorrow would be unmatched through any period ever in history.... Ever! And I just don't feel if that is the case....yet. With all the hype of the end of 2012 coming from all angles, I can't help but think Satan has something planned... Of course none greater than the Almighty :)
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Well......maybe.
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The church is still restraining the evil on the planet. Now it just depends on when you place the rapture, pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib.

I tend to believe it's either pre or mid.

For us to be halfway through the tribulation period, the Antichrist would have to have already made the false peace treaty, am I right? I think we may see a war soon, in which the Antichrist will make the false peace, starting off the tribulation.
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I frimly believe that all the trumpets are released DURING the tribulation period. I'm open to suggestions but I don't see how anyone could argue that even of the seals have been opened yet. A "third of the trees havn't been burn't up yet" "A third part of the sea is not blood yet" and we havn't had any comet fragments ruin any part of earth yet. I don't think the judgements neccesarily come in order either because IMHO th 5th trumpet has alrady sounded and yes the 6th trumpet with the four horsemen killing 1/4 of mankind (most likely world war 3) is very near.

Hopefully we are raptured before the real chaos begins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


Right, but what if those events are spiritual in nature and not physical. See what I'm saying?

I don't know.
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And what if the second coming of Christ is spiritual in nature and not physical?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7244743


Not sure, but I think it's more then spiritual because people will actually be destroyed, and the earth burned up.

And, when Jesus was ascending in the clouds it was said that He would return in the same exact way.

So, I think His return is literal.
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I agree with you, Lisa. When Jesus came the first time, many - especially his followers - were expecting the things they knew from OT, but everything Jesus said was Spiritual in nature. They didn't understand it as it was happening, and didn't know what to make of it, either, until he died - AND THEY SAW IT - and then it all made sense when He rose again.

However, His RESURRECTION and ASCENSION into heaven was a LITERAL event, and they ALL SAW IT, and then believed in all the other "spiritual" events.

My opinion (similar to yours) is that many of the events we read in Revelation is spiritual, therefore, "those who do not have ears to hear, or eyes to see" don't understand what is going on.

That said, JESUS WILL RETURN LITERALLY, as He Ascended literally....He said He would!
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A good christian friend of mine told me the other day that we are at the 6th trump already, waiting for the 7th to blow.

She said that many of the things that we were waiting for have already happened in the spiritual realm, while we were waiting for them to appear in the physical realm.

I suppose this could be true, I don't know either way.

What's your thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I'm sorry Sister, but we are just now entering into the birth pains. The 4 horsemen are running as I type this. Expect things too heat up, but also expect to be here for awhile too further the Gospel of our Lord Jesus. He is coming for the dead first, and the those who remain will be caught up.....7th trumpet. We aren't destined for His wrath, once again that starts at the 7th trumpet. He is coming at a time we think He is NOT coming, which for the church here in the USA think He is coming sooner than later, we all need to pray for the remnant. God bless you Sister.
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God bless you too!

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I recall reading that a false tribulation would precede the real one.

As another pointed out, trees and seas still fairly fine.
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Right, but my point is that maybe revelation isn't talking about literal trees and seas.

Like the stars in revelation are talking about spiritual beings. Obviously, not a literal star.

Look: Revelation 9:1-2 "The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss.When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss."

Revelation also talks about the Lampstands and Fig tree, which are people, not literal trees and lampstands.

Also "sea" means something entirely different then the oceans, look [link to www.biblemeanings.info]
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What if the stars falling from the sky are bombs? If that was the case then with all that is going on right now and with the war on the way I say that we are seeing Revilation first hand. Where as you can not take to many symbols in the Bible literally you must think that the man who saw these visions lived thousands of years ago. If it is happening in our time and he seen this then he will describe them as best as he knows how since none of our technology exisited to him back then. Personally I am ready to be the Lords bride. I want off this planet already. abduct
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you wrote that no one knows the day nor the our



true however in scripture he says WATCH for no one knows the day nor the our. In other words if you pay close attention at what is happening you will know the seson and timeframe of when it will take place. Now day and Hour only he knows
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I recall reading that a false tribulation would precede the real one.

As another pointed out, trees and seas still fairly fine.
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Right, but my point is that maybe revelation isn't talking about literal trees and seas.

Like the stars in revelation are talking about spiritual beings. Obviously, not a literal star.

Look: Revelation 9:1-2 "The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss.When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss."

Revelation also talks about the Lampstands and Fig tree, which are people, not literal trees and lampstands.

Also "sea" means something entirely different then the oceans, look [link to www.biblemeanings.info]
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


What if the stars falling from the sky are bombs? If that was the case then with all that is going on right now and with the war on the way I say that we are seeing Revilation first hand. Where as you can not take to many symbols in the Bible literally you must think that the man who saw these visions lived thousands of years ago. If it is happening in our time and he seen this then he will describe them as best as he knows how since none of our technology exisited to him back then. Personally I am ready to be the Lords bride. I want off this planet already. abduct
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Yea, I don't know anyone that isn't ready to get out of here.....lol.
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The Book of Daniel has 3 sets of dates...


1260

1290

1335

As dates for GOD's saints...
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