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Christians: Could We Be Farther Along in Revelation Then We Thought?

 
Lisa*Lisa (OP)

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Great Podcast Lisa!


Love it!
 Quoting: christian


What podcast? LOL....I don't know what you're talking about.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]

:)
 Quoting: christian


Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


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Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
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Yea, maybe wormwood is spiritual in nature too, or something that we don't expect it to be?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27730975


Yea, maybe wormwood is spiritual in nature too, or something that we don't expect it to be?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



everyone and this nibiru crap.

listen, thats just more new age crap, it would be here by now.

the truth is, a lot of people view chernobyl as the third trumpet. It poisoned the waters in europe and killed enough people to count. it didnt come from the sky necessarily in the physical dimension, but it was caused by someone doing unauthorized tests and fucking everything over - sounds like possession to me.

also, im not sure it directly translates to wormwood, but it either does directly translate to wormwood, or to mugwort, or some other herb with the same properties as wormwood.

it did make the waters bitter. and killed many in western europe from the rains, caused birth defects, etc.

im not saying it is, but there have been signs in the heavens, and all sorts of other crap.

we really could be towards the last trump. israels going crazy right now, and we might see the temple rebuilt.

also, if something happens to fukushima and dumps those rods in the ocean, more than a third of the waters in the world will be fucked, as will ALL RAIN THAT FALLS ANYWHERE ON EARTH and we are all dead. we also have scientists working on recreating the big bang, and possibly opening up a gateway to another dimension and/or ripping space time by accident.

so yes. god could call at any time now. I hope Im saved - I have faith but I havent been baptized nor do I go to church or anything. so I might not be, but I hope god sees whats in our hearts and minds, not whats said of us by men or tradition. if not, a good majority of us, probably at least a 3.5/4 majority will not be saved even if calling on jesus name because none of us follow the shit he said to - we follow the church, which was founded by and for liars from the very beginning.

men want to be good, want hope. when there is none, they make it up. sometimes there is none and accepting that entire generations may be damned is something thats serious, and used to be taught in churches all the fuck over. now thats wrong, there MUST be good. that is a lie in and of itself.

Old testament law still is in place - the new covenant erased the old, but it didnt erase the law - which jesus likened to the 10 commandments because they were major, but the stuff he protested were kabbalah and talmud - traditions of men, not the old testament.

also, he refers to god as the father, but not himself as his true son. ONLY the writers of the new testament said that, as well as some groups of early followers in churches before the council of nicea.

he always refers to himself as son of man, and insists that you have to believe he "came in the flesh".

to me that reeks of him proclaiming he is not god.

sure he says I and the father are one, but EVERYONE is one with the father if they realize it. a little bit of god is everywhere, because everything came from him. we are WITHIN the mind and body of god right now. and part of us is part of him. but he is infinite and could make more without ever losing part of himself as much as that defies logic.

he also says the father is greater than I. he also proclaims he isnt good as only the father is good.

I think if jesus heard about the trinity - or transubstantiation, or indeed, ALL the protestant and catholic faithfuls traditions, he would probably be sick.

if jesus were here, hed probably break into the vatican and redistribute the books/knowledge hidden there, and all the money to the people, just like he overthrew the money changers table of old. Hed probably cast down the pope and the traditions of men, just like he did to the pharisees. probably condemn them of participating in the occult too, just the same - knowing the truth and being from god, im sure jesus ABSOLUTELY KNEW, before the zohar was written, that through oral tradition alone the pharisees were likely practicing kabbalists.


bringing us to the idea of the first secret society killing jesus. meaning OUR GOVERNMENTS DID IT and have hidden it for ages. Jesus wasnt good for the economy - he gave people a point to life other than working to establish the empire - a hollow goal - we have empires now and its an eternal struggle just to keep them up - whats the point huh?

jesus was against the bankers, against deception, against government. He was a threat to rome and to Judea alike. not to the people, but to the government. so they had to get rid of him or else their dreams of the perfect world could not have happened. the ideas that their version of "GOD", read "satan", were at direct odds with him.

what jesus really said in full we will probably never know. something happened and there were tons of different churches for around 300 years after his death and then the council of nicea happened when rome made it their official religion.

the supposed story from here is that there were different ideas of jesus nature, and many conflicting beliefs between tribes of believers, and rome wanted one story.

but think of it like 9/11. sure rome has their accepted theory -- a theory good for the development of rome!!!!

anyway the nature of jesus was decided there - something NO MAN has the right to decide, for it is beyond us to know ever. until the end. period. he came here in the flesh and thats ALL we know.

in fact, a majority of the new testament could be lies or forgeries. each book was several composite books put together from the tribes debating on jesus' life and nature and rome.

the "Literal interpretation" crap is just that - crapola. you actually CANNOT without years of study even come close to a literal interpretation. some of it IS symbolic in a way that you wouldnt get unless you lived at that time. its the same crap that forces the myth of inerrancy in the bible.

luckily I think that revelation made it by relatively unscathed by rome because probably nobody could believe any of it would happen so they didnt care at the time.

however Id warn you that changing things slowly over great time is EXCEPTIONALLY easy. as a lesson in magick and deception I say this - if over a long period of time something SMALL changes, like a roadsign being put up over a period of 5 years, by the time its up, it will feel like its always been there and VERY few people will even think back to the time before that sign.

take into account the bible is written in languages where words have several inherent and conceptual meanings that either cannot fully be translated because they are concepts - or they have multiple meanings which someone else defined for you - and that can change drastically the meanings, especially the occult ones, so much so that it could even possibly negate salvation, although I doubt they totally do - I believe god has a plan and is accounting for those of us who are deceived but still seek the truth. of course he might still damn us all for partaking in sin anyway.

but regardless heres a good video I found on jesus being killed by the first kabbalistic secret society by a baptist. Its pretty interesting. I think you can clearly see that the illuminati actually probably killed jesus so they could work with the grand architect's plan, which was probably satans plan coming about through the subconscious and conscious thoughts of men -- ILLUMINATION.

[link to www.youtube.com]

they dont say all I have said in there, but they do make a good case that a secret society killed jesus. honestly, if that did happen, seeing as ALL secret societies always either die out or get incorporated into the bigger group of all of the mysteries, I would definitely say this has SOME link to the creation of illuminati somewhere in history.

because of course, it was the bankers, government officials, and religious leaders who created the matrix who killed jesus.

truth is, I think they're afraid someone else might rise up like jesus did. I believe jesus wouldve wanted us to try - but by controlling the church - saying he "died for our sins so there are no more" is akin to saying "move along, nothing going on here". I believe he said god would forgive us if we asked HIM and believed in what jesus said, not that jesus WAS god. god knows we arent all strong enough to face evil - but we MUST face it.

we only face apocalypse now because people said "move along, nothing going on here" and everyone listened. I sincerely believe those people, regardless of faith, if they had the intellectual capacity to know something WAS going on there, and they wouldnt believe, then they went to hell. period. jesus or no. because "they did not love the truth" and couldnt tell the difference between good and evil

I believe that its not "christ consciouness" thats crap. its part of the same lie we've been told since the beginning. we CANNOT BE AS GODS. its not that believing and fantasy is bad, its that that attitude BREEDS APATHY. it says DO WHAT YOU WANT! BE HAPPY! THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS! and its the same problem as saying jesus matters, but not the old testament. saying he freed us from the law is the same lie rebranded, just like all the new age crap is the same occultism buried under the hood of a new image. Kind of like you bought a mustang body with ford pinto parts inside - looks like a mustang, but it really isnt. Enough people will get caught up in the look not to care though, and pay twice the price of the pinto for essentially the same vehicle.

happiness is a lie, an illusion. especially through self gratification alone. I believe the point of life is knowing the truth, being one with and accepting the truth - no matter how awful or painful it may be - to say no to fantasy and deal with the reality now.

sometimes, it takes sacrifices - people have forgotten. they let things like fukushima fester when obviously the fate of the world teeters and totters and nobody cares -sometimes you have to give up that $500,000 a year job and work for free sometimes. after all if the world ends, who cares what wealth you stored up.

that was part of jesus message. but it was covered up. covered up by the same people who cover up his message continually echoing through history because no matter what, they are lost in their own world of illusion within their own minds - believing that to be the true realm. it is here, in this meditative self reality they have created where satan can clearly and easily manifest himself through archetypes in the subconscious and direct people - using the collective subconscious against them by giving them access to outside information, making it sound GREAT, and mixing it with half truths to make the lie believable. give people science and tell them one thing, knowing how they react, knowing what they do not and you have not given them...

like the large hadron collider - we dont know what it does fully, but satan already knows how ALL possible combinations react, being part of the underlying layer to our reality.

all satan would need to do is inspire us in our subconscious to build it, to open up the doorways to learn how, and to give us the lie it can bring us closer to godhood - discovering the platonic solids and particles that create reality so we can rebuild it...

which it can do. but it also could do a whole heck of a lot more they are unsure of. proof of the lie at work right there.

Im afraid, because sometimes I think the story of jesus returning may be a lie. maybe they just told us that so we wouldnt rise against rome under a similar leader again.

but I find that possibility unlikely if he did indeed rise again, which I do believe. But realize how easy belief is to craft over generations - one small change every 20-30 years is all it would take over 500-1000 years to establish a false belief and make people think its always been that way.

just saying. I think we should storm the vatican and break into the library and loot as much as possible, then bring it to professors and translators. maybe then we could see some light on the truth and life of the real Yahshua and his father.
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My two cents..Book of Revelation starts with Iraq war..
Tribulation with 9/11
We are now entering the third and final phase
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Great tribulation in 2001? Or 9/11 of this year? If 2001, the seven year tribulation is already... 4 years past? Doesn't add up.
People, unfortunately it is going to get worse! Watch! Things are going to markedly get worse! It won't be something to speculate about. The thief analogy is for people who aren't looking or waiting for Jesus. They are just going to go on about their daily lives. But WE know it's at the door.
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In my opinion:9/11 2001
7 doesnt necessary mean 7 years
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

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Great Podcast Lisa!


Love it!
 Quoting: christian


What podcast? LOL....I don't know what you're talking about.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]

:)
 Quoting: christian


Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


lol
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
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What podcast? LOL....I don't know what you're talking about.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]

:)
 Quoting: christian


Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


lol
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
 Quoting: christian


I always thought the 2 witnesses were the christians and the jews. Might be those 2 churches tho, I'll have to listen to that part of it.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

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Also, one can't ignore the blatant occult symbolism being revealed on a world stage at the 2012 Olympics. The most in-your-face being the Phoenix rising from the ashes as everyone looks in awe. If thTs not symbolism for Satan I don't know what is.
The media has been bombarded with blatant occultic symbolism to the masses, not "secret" knowledge anymore. But the scary thing is that virtually all other world religions against Jesus will basically line up with these teachings, deceiving many.

But with Jesus there is no reason to fear! So thankful for salvation in Him!!!
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Also, one can't ignore the blatant occult symbolism being revealed on a world stage at the 2012 Olympics. The most in-your-face being the Phoenix rising from the ashes as everyone looks in awe. If thTs not symbolism for Satan I don't know what is.
The media has been bombarded with blatant occultic symbolism to the masses, not "secret" knowledge anymore. But the scary thing is that virtually all other world religions against Jesus will basically line up with these teachings, deceiving many.

But with Jesus there is no reason to fear! So thankful for salvation in Him!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27708882



hf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Doesn't God count 1000 years as to one day for HIS time?
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Doesn't God count 1000 years as to one day for HIS time?
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Sometimes, but not all the time.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


lol
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
 Quoting: christian


I always thought the 2 witnesses were the christians and the jews. Might be those 2 churches tho, I'll have to listen to that part of it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I thought the two witness were JPII and Sor Lucia..I know it doesnt make sense..just always had that gut feeling
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27730975


Your best friend is Jesus? What about your mum, dad, wife, husband, kids, your actual friends?
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My two cents..Book of Revelation starts with Iraq war..
Tribulation with 9/11
We are now entering the third and final phase
 Quoting: wildhoney


Great tribulation in 2001? Or 9/11 of this year? If 2001, the seven year tribulation is already... 4 years past? Doesn't add up.
People, unfortunately it is going to get worse! Watch! Things are going to markedly get worse! It won't be something to speculate about. The thief analogy is for people who aren't looking or waiting for Jesus. They are just going to go on about their daily lives. But WE know it's at the door.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27708882


In my opinion:9/11 2001
7 doesnt necessary mean 7 years
 Quoting: wildhoney


Then what does it mean? I believe we have to take God for His Word! Going to far into our own interpretation without proper scriptural evidence to back it up. By your interpretation we may see things happening over a 70 year time span... Which I'm not outright denying but where is the scriptural evidence?? The bible says 7 years, and it gets even more specific marking the halfway point at 1260 Days, which is another reference point we can use to learn more about these times. With your logic everything could possibly mean something else, which is too confusing. Our God is not intending to confuse us!
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Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


lol
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
 Quoting: christian


I always thought the 2 witnesses were the christians and the jews. Might be those 2 churches tho, I'll have to listen to that part of it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I thought the two witness were JPII and Sor Lucia..I know it doesnt make sense..just always had that gut feeling
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yea, I don't think so :)

hf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27730975


Your best friend is Jesus? What about your mum, dad, wife, husband, kids, your actual friends?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27711581


Your family cannot wash away your sins
Your family cannot save you..

The First Commandment..

LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART< MIND AND SOUL....
Susie

If you don't stand for your faith, then you won't stand at all....
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OK.......question for everyone. Who is the woman of revelation 12?

Or maybe I should say "what" is the woman of revelation 12?

Last Edited by Lisa*Lisa on 11/14/2012 01:31 PM
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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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The book of Revelations is not about the end of the world. It is predicting the end of the Roman Empire. Nero is the beast "666". This stuff already happened.
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Next event: 3rd Seal of Revelation........a day's wages for a loaf of bread on a worldwide basis.


This will perhaps take place when the world's fiat currency system collapses.
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Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
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Your best friend is Jesus? What about your mum, dad, wife, husband, kids, your actual friends?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27711581


Your family cannot wash away your sins
Your family cannot save you..

The First Commandment..

LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART< MIND AND SOUL....
 Quoting: christian


Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27730975


Your best friend is Jesus? What about your mum, dad, wife, husband, kids, your actual friends?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27711581


Your family cannot wash away your sins
Your family cannot save you..

The First Commandment..

LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART< MIND AND SOUL....
 Quoting: christian


That's just the thing about Christians your only concerned about going to hell, your family is just as important as anything, I'm not concerned about washing away my sins I'm more interested in helping other people.
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What podcast? LOL....I don't know what you're talking about.

hf
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[link to truthstream.podomatic.com]

:)
 Quoting: christian


Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


lol
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
 Quoting: christian


clappa

I have always had a feeling the Holy Spirit was involved in this one and know serious Bible scholars who thought the same. We have to keep our hearts, minds and spirits open to the Lord using unlikely servants and revealing things more as events unfold. Lisa even in starting this thread and it getting pinned deserves favor for seeking truth.

It has led to my listening to the podcast fresh for the FOURTH time now. Please spread the word and link anything that you find that relates to or expands on this. Maybe Amos will also do a follow up as more interest arises.
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OK.......question for everyone. Who is the woman of revelation 12?

Or maybe I should say "what" is the woman of revelation 12?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The spirit of Babylon has rested on various empires since the original Babylon.


It seems currently to have rested upon the USA......probably since the 1960s.



The banking empire hates the USA (the whore of Babylon)......and will destroy the USA.
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Oh ok, I just started listening to it. Don't know how I'll make it though 2 hours tho with my attention deficit disorder........LMAO!


lol
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
 Quoting: christian


clappa

I have always had a feeling the Holy Spirit was involved in this one and know serious Bible scholars who thought the same. We have to keep our hearts, minds and spirits open to the Lord using unlikely servants and revealing things more as events unfold. Lisa even in starting this thread and it getting pinned deserves favor for seeking truth.

It has led to my listening to the podcast fresh for the FOURTH time now. Please spread the word and link anything that you find that relates to or expands on this. Maybe Amos will also do a follow up as more interest arises.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258462


This podcast is very good. I'm surprised. I'll be listening to it more then once because it's alot of info to try and absorb at once.

hf
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The book of Revelations is not about the end of the world. It is predicting the end of the Roman Empire. Nero is the beast "666". This stuff already happened.
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You haven't read it then...
One could always look at it as a new beginning.
The book of Revelation IS about the end of this world as we know it.
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Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27730975


Your best friend is Jesus? What about your mum, dad, wife, husband, kids, your actual friends?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27711581


Your family cannot wash away your sins
Your family cannot save you..

The First Commandment..

LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART< MIND AND SOUL....
 Quoting: christian


Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27730975


Your best friend is Jesus? What about your mum, dad, wife, husband, kids, your actual friends?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27711581


Your family cannot wash away your sins
Your family cannot save you..

The First Commandment..

LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART< MIND AND SOUL....
 Quoting: christian


That's just the thing about Christians your only concerned about going to hell, your family is just as important as anything, I'm not concerned about washing away my sins I'm more interested in helping other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27711581


So in essence you are helping other's to die in their sins as well as yourself....
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LOL..It's very good! I am almost through the first hour....

2 witnesses are the 2 Churches Jesus did not have a Controversy with..

The Church of Philadelphia
The Church of Smyrna...
 Quoting: christian


I always thought the 2 witnesses were the christians and the jews. Might be those 2 churches tho, I'll have to listen to that part of it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I thought the two witness were JPII and Sor Lucia..I know it doesnt make sense..just always had that gut feeling
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yea, I don't think so :)

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


lol..why am I not surprised?..lol hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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Who is this guy in the podcast anyway? Does he have a website? I have a better time understanding reading material then listening material.
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I always thought the 2 witnesses were the christians and the jews. Might be those 2 churches tho, I'll have to listen to that part of it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I thought the two witness were JPII and Sor Lucia..I know it doesnt make sense..just always had that gut feeling
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yea, I don't think so :)

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


lol..why am I not surprised?..lol hf
 Quoting: wildhoney


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A good christian friend of mine told me the other day that we are at the 6th trump already, waiting for the 7th to blow.

She said that many of the things that we were waiting for have already happened in the spiritual realm, while we were waiting for them to appear in the physical realm.

I suppose this could be true, I don't know either way.

What's your thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Did you said waiting?

Why does everything in this world revolve around waiting?

New agers waiting for some date. Christians waiting for another date. Doomers waiting for doom date

Yes nothing ever happens. Hmmm
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OK.......question for everyone. Who is the woman of revelation 12?

Or maybe I should say "what" is the woman of revelation 12?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The spirit of Babylon has rested on various empires since the original Babylon.


It seems currently to have rested upon the USA......probably since the 1960s.



The banking empire hates the USA (the whore of Babylon)......and will destroy the USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27748702


Sorry..........the above is referring to the woman in Rev 17



The woman from Rev 12 is Israel.
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OK.......question for everyone. Who is the woman of revelation 12?

Or maybe I should say "what" is the woman of revelation 12?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The spirit of Babylon has rested on various empires since the original Babylon.


It seems currently to have rested upon the USA......probably since the 1960s.



The banking empire hates the USA (the whore of Babylon)......and will destroy the USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27748702


Sorry..........the above is referring to the woman in Rev 17



The woman from Rev 12 is Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27748702


"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

Israel doesn't seem to fit. But, if you believe it's Israel, who is the child she gives birth to?
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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OK.......question for everyone. Who is the woman of revelation 12?

Or maybe I should say "what" is the woman of revelation 12?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The spirit of Babylon has rested on various empires since the original Babylon.


It seems currently to have rested upon the USA......probably since the 1960s.



The banking empire hates the USA (the whore of Babylon)......and will destroy the USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27748702


Sorry..........the above is referring to the woman in Rev 17



The woman from Rev 12 is Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27748702


"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

Israel doesn't seem to fit. But, if you believe it's Israel, who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


baby Israel? chuckle
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)

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