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Christians: Could We Be Farther Along in Revelation Then We Thought?

 
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Thanks Lisa*Lisa for the +10000

All conspiracies on these sites give a piece of the puzzle.
but if you gather all the pieces of ALL conspiracies and put them together It is ONE BIG CONSPIRACY and everything relates to the Things of God. in scripture he says they gather the nations together for the final battle against God in Megiddo or Armagedon.

Nibiru, Pole Shift= 6th seal being opened

Deep Underground Military Bases= Chiefs and Rulers hiding themselves in Mountains

Reptilians= Serpents of Old

Shapeshifters= Fallen Angels that can appear

Giants,Aliens= Nephilim,Rehaim,Zamzumim

9/11 =Changing of the Laws

microchip= mark of the beast

New World Order= System of the Beast

The point is everthing that is mentioned on conspiracy sites pertain to everything that is in scripture of the Things of God no matter if one wants to deny it. It's all part of what God warned through of what was gonna take place. Fill in the gaps all conspiracies tie into everything in scripture.
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Thats fine with me but preparing for the final war and will basically destroy the earth isn't fine with me. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

If Christians really do think we are in revelations time than they think the war between good and evil is almost here. This is VERY dangerous thinking.
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I know what you say. The long history of wars Humanity has been through is a reflection of the departure from the One God.

We came at a point when we could attain peace. But in the meantime, many are in the mood for the Great War. This, does not stem from inner peace, on the contrary.
And it is very dangerous indeed. Never the men of peace instill to war :) Jesus was an example of peace maker, not warmonger. But still, it is hard to follow his example even in small things, like online discussions :)
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Yes,
As a thief in the night is a huge clue. I have already been sealed since 2007, with a new name and white stone, and have been announcing this since then, but noone even listened. I have no reason to lie, or gain a thing from saying this. I have said about Gabriel's horn. This is also secret and as a thief, meaning judgement comes from within the person before a spiritual death and resurrection to life. Truly Born Again.
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I frimly believe that all the trumpets are released DURING the tribulation period. I'm open to suggestions but I don't see how anyone could argue that even of the seals have been opened yet. A "third of the trees havn't been burn't up yet" "A third part of the sea is not blood yet" and we havn't had any comet fragments ruin any part of earth yet. I don't think the judgements neccesarily come in order either because IMHO th 5th trumpet has alrady sounded and yes the 6th trumpet with the four horsemen killing 1/4 of mankind (most likely world war 3) is very near.

Hopefully we are raptured before the real chaos begins.
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ques 1. What was the white stone and where is it? Answer this question and I may tell what I recorded on my cell phone video cause it is very scary.

ques 2. Has anyone considered re: trees, that this may be a reference to man? And that "burned up" may be a reference to spiritual fire?
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Andreidita

I was born in Spirit the moment I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior it was Supernatural/ Spiritual experience. From that moment on I was spiritually aware things that I didn't understand all of sudden I did. The moment you humble yourself and ask Jesus Christ in Heart you allow his spirit to fill you it's not just words but an actual experience with him. From then on it is your walk with God. Spiritual Gifts are given speaking in tongues so many others. Sensitive to his presence getting to experience Holy Spirit it's an amazing relationship. Not the way people portray it as religious.
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So MANY MANY MANY OF YOU " Christian's" are being deceived and you cant even see it!!! Jesus said in the last day I will send Great Delusion that men should believe a lie and be damned!!
We ARE NOT IN THE SEALS YET....AS THE CHURCH OF GOD IS GONE..RAPTURED OUT BY REV.CHAP6!!!!!. Oh Christians!!! Oh children of God!!! I pray that you IMMEDIATELY BEGIN FASTING AND PRAYING AND ASKING JESUS TO SHOW YOU THE TRUTH OF HIS WORD AND THE TIME WE ARE IN!!! Ask that scales be lifted from upon your eyes and hearts that you be not deceived by the seducing spirits whispering in your ears!!
Only THOSE who HAVE HIDDEN GODS WORD AWAY IN THEIR HEARTS...WHERE NO MAN CAN STEAL IT WILL BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE FIERY ARROWS COMING AGAINST GODS ANOINTED IN THESE LAST DAYS!
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Lisa please again go watch Daniel's Timeline 7oth week on youtube, there's a pastor/Bible Scholar that did a video explain literally everything from 1947 when Israel became a nation til now and a couple years from now. It all falls into line and you won't have to ask anymore, you will KNOW.
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If we were in the 7 year tribulation we would see the anti-christ make a covenant with many for 7 years(the last 7 years of the earth), in other words the 7 year peace treaty with Israel. The antichrist and the false prophet do the deal with rebuilding the 3rd temple to allow Jews to worship in it. As a result the Jews will think this is the promised Messiah. At the same time the "two witnesses" of revelation will begin building "the spiritual temple" of God that cannot be destroyed, as the antichrist and false prophet are building the physical temple that will be defiled by the antichrist 42 months after it is the decree to build it. Also there is 42 months before the 7 year tribulation that people don't recognize and it is the destruction of America and the tearing down of idols that the children of God become a holy people again and turn back to God
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How do you know that a peace treaty hasn't been signed? Truth is, we only know what "they" allow us to know, which isn't much.

How can the 2 witnesses build "the spiritual temple", when We Are the spiritual temple of God? Says so in the bible.

The dome of the rock might very well be the abomination of desolation........see what I mean?

These things might be a little different then we thought.

I'm open minded enough to know that the traditional interpretation of these things might not be right.

I do not know one way or another.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The purpose of the peace treaty would be to put on a front of peace to the world. It's purpose is to deceive. This would most likely be revealed to the whole world for this purpose.
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I recall reading that a false tribulation would precede the real one.

As another pointed out, trees and seas still fairly fine.
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Are they really? I dont think so,The book of revelations make it sound like its done in an instant but maybe not.Trees are dieing and the seas are no longer safe to be used for food or water (reclaimed)I think its been done and over for a long time we are the remnant
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If we were in the 7 year tribulation we would see the anti-christ make a covenant with many for 7 years(the last 7 years of the earth), in other words the 7 year peace treaty with Israel. The antichrist and the false prophet do the deal with rebuilding the 3rd temple to allow Jews to worship in it. As a result the Jews will think this is the promised Messiah. At the same time the "two witnesses" of revelation will begin building "the spiritual temple" of God that cannot be destroyed, as the antichrist and false prophet are building the physical temple that will be defiled by the antichrist 42 months after it is the decree to build it. Also there is 42 months before the 7 year tribulation that people don't recognize and it is the destruction of America and the tearing down of idols that the children of God become a holy people again and turn back to God
 Quoting: waterman


How do you know that a peace treaty hasn't been signed? Truth is, we only know what "they" allow us to know, which isn't much.

How can the 2 witnesses build "the spiritual temple", when We Are the spiritual temple of God? Says so in the bible.

The dome of the rock might very well be the abomination of desolation........see what I mean?

These things might be a little different then we thought.

I'm open minded enough to know that the traditional interpretation of these things might not be right.

I do not know one way or another.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The purpose of the peace treaty would be to put on a front of peace to the world. It's purpose is to deceive. This would most likely be revealed to the whole world for this purpose.
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I believe the peace treaty might be the NWO, which has been in the works for some time now. Everyone that agrees to go along with it, will be promised peace and security.
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I frimly believe that all the trumpets are released DURING the tribulation period. I'm open to suggestions but I don't see how anyone could argue that even of the seals have been opened yet. A "third of the trees havn't been burn't up yet" "A third part of the sea is not blood yet" and we havn't had any comet fragments ruin any part of earth yet. I don't think the judgements neccesarily come in order either because IMHO th 5th trumpet has alrady sounded and yes the 6th trumpet with the four horsemen killing 1/4 of mankind (most likely world war 3) is very near.

Hopefully we are raptured before the real chaos begins.
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Right, but what if those events are spiritual in nature and not physical. See what I'm saying?

I don't know.
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And what if the second coming of Christ is spiritual in nature and not physical?
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ohyeah
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I was born in Spirit the moment I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior it was Supernatural/ Spiritual experience. From that moment on I was spiritually aware things that I didn't understand all of sudden I did. The moment you humble yourself and ask Jesus Christ in Heart you allow his spirit to fill you it's not just words but an actual experience with him. From then on it is your walk with God. Spiritual Gifts are given speaking in tongues so many others. Sensitive to his presence getting to experience Holy Spirit it's an amazing relationship. Not the way people portray it as religious.
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this is an accurate description, from a spiritual standpoint.

but then why do you judge the ways of Spirit? In essence it is the same. But each one's walk with God is intimate. As you say.

In this post you talk of your own experience, thus you talk from your soul. And you speak truth, as such.

What baffles me is why you were so quick in the earlier post to judge something as being a false way, labeling which way it is, although only simple words were spoken.

You should know better my friend.

And if you have any quarrel with the importance of inner peace, simply deny that God is Love, deny that God is reached through the Heart, deny that Inner Peace is a state of one's soul communion with God.

But you cannot deny those, because they are very simple truths, which do not need a particular set of beliefs to be based upon. And if you can not deny those truths, why quarrel with someone who just expresses them?
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If we were in the 7 year tribulation we would see the anti-christ make a covenant with many for 7 years(the last 7 years of the earth), in other words the 7 year peace treaty with Israel. The antichrist and the false prophet do the deal with rebuilding the 3rd temple to allow Jews to worship in it. As a result the Jews will think this is the promised Messiah. At the same time the "two witnesses" of revelation will begin building "the spiritual temple" of God that cannot be destroyed, as the antichrist and false prophet are building the physical temple that will be defiled by the antichrist 42 months after it is the decree to build it. Also there is 42 months before the 7 year tribulation that people don't recognize and it is the destruction of America and the tearing down of idols that the children of God become a holy people again and turn back to God
 Quoting: waterman


How do you know that a peace treaty hasn't been signed? Truth is, we only know what "they" allow us to know, which isn't much.

How can the 2 witnesses build "the spiritual temple", when We Are the spiritual temple of God? Says so in the bible.

The dome of the rock might very well be the abomination of desolation........see what I mean?

These things might be a little different then we thought.

I'm open minded enough to know that the traditional interpretation of these things might not be right.

I do not know one way or another.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The purpose of the peace treaty would be to put on a front of peace to the world. It's purpose is to deceive. This would most likely be revealed to the whole world for this purpose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27708882


I believe the peace treaty might be the NWO, which has been in the works for some time now. Everyone that agrees to go along with it, will be promised peace and security.
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More nonsense but noone cares.There never was going to be this 7 year peace treaty.
The passage isnt about satan.It is mistranslated.It is about the MAN OF SIN!
The Bible TELLS you the name of the man of sin but none of you care.
As far as you are all concerned it is satan.
What does Bible say?
It says Jesus was without sin but BECAME Sin.2 cor5:21
He BECAME a CURSE!Gal 3:13
he carried sin BODILY in His Body./
In the psalms He states FORGIVE ME MY SIN!
In Zechariah 3 He is described as a Brand PLUCKED from the FIRE!
In revelation He is described as HE OVERCAME!
The MAN OF SIN is JESUS!
the 7 year period is when He reaffirms His covernant.The middle of week is when no one can any longer be saved as SACRIFICE AND GIFT OFFERINGS FINISH JUST as Isaiah22 says and JUST as Jesus said when He said when the master of the house SHUTS THE DOOR!
isaiah22 speaks of ELIAKIM the Son of Hilkiah THE RISEN LORD THE SON WITH A PORTION IN JEHOVAH and the BURDEN drops.The nail is removed.
But what do you care.Trust the false teachers and the wrong translations and ignore the Bible.
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All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor precede us. In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen… Amos 9:10-11

I pray not that thou should take them out of the world, but that thou should keep them from the evil…Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through their word; John 17:15,20

The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. Proverbs 10:30

The First Commandment, Believe in Me

I am YHWH thy ELOHIYM, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. Ex 20:2-3

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. Jer 30:7

Jacob is delivered, not some non-existent (biblically speaking) gentile church that escapes Jacob's trouble.

because what they fear,will come upon them as they are foolish virgins running out of oil, and will not enter the Assemblies of Mt. Zion.

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The task of the 144,000 is to shepherd the assemblies in the Greater Exodus

They are upon Mount Zion

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the Mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having His Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:1

They are deliverers

And deliverers shall come up on Mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be YHWH's Ob 21

They will head the assemblies in the Greater Exodus

And YHWH will create upon every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence Is 4:5

Greater Exodus

Therefore, behold, the days come, saith YHWH, that they shall no more say, YHWH lives, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; But, YHWH lives, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land. Jer 23:7-8

When > The Great Tribulation, Jacobs Trouble

As a shepherd seeks out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out My sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. Ez 34:12

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That which has been is now; and that which is to be has already been; and ELOHIYM requires that which is past. Ecc 3:15

Look to the past to see the future, How YHWH did it in the past, Is how He will do it in the future

According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I show unto him marvellous things. Micah 7:15
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So MANY MANY MANY OF YOU " Christian's" are being deceived and you cant even see it!!! Jesus said in the last day I will send Great Delusion that men should believe a lie and be damned!!
We ARE NOT IN THE SEALS YET....AS THE CHURCH OF GOD IS GONE..RAPTURED OUT BY REV.CHAP6!!!!!. Oh Christians!!! Oh children of God!!! I pray that you IMMEDIATELY BEGIN FASTING AND PRAYING AND ASKING JESUS TO SHOW YOU THE TRUTH OF HIS WORD AND THE TIME WE ARE IN!!! Ask that scales be lifted from upon your eyes and hearts that you be not deceived by the seducing spirits whispering in your ears!!
Only THOSE who HAVE HIDDEN GODS WORD AWAY IN THEIR HEARTS...WHERE NO MAN CAN STEAL IT WILL BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE FIERY ARROWS COMING AGAINST GODS ANOINTED IN THESE LAST DAYS!
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:) you will never wake one from delusion by saying to him that he is in a delusion. better, stick to the truth that was revealed in your heart, and try to speak from inside one's belief system, in stories and metaphors, and instill those words with the truth in your heart.
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Could well be. With Nibiru (Wormwood) drawing closer and the Aliens just about landing in the backyard, ANYTHING could set it off.
Personally I'm waiting for Jesus to give me a sign that He's just about here.
I have been communicating directly with Him for some time now and He has promised not to let me down.
All we can do now is put our faith in Him and pray really hard!
'My best friend's name is JESUS!!'
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Yea, maybe wormwood is spiritual in nature too, or something that we don't expect it to be?
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Wormwood = Radiation
Fukua(Shima) = island, so its FUK U ISLAND
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Andreidita

Nothing Contradicts from what I posted and, I do not judge for who am I to judge when I myself am walking through this narrow path, I only stated. What I said is accurate. No one comes to the father and this spiritual understandin without coming to Christ Jesus. No one can do it by actions alone as being kind or good. Or looking for inner peace by self. Peace is only found through Jesus Christ that's why they call him the prince of peace there is no other way. Again I spoke of new agers who have this mentality of self christened, it doesn't work that way. To meditate and to become like christ without coming to Jesus and asking him for forgiveness and accepting him as your savior. it's the same thing as lucifer wanting to be like God. Like those satanists that say do what thou will because your gods. Now if a person has asked and been born again with his spirit then one knows that aside from God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit you can do nothing.
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LisaLisa, yes that can be a tad hard to read blink

It's taking me quite some time to go through just that chapter of Matthew. Transliterations (text translated literally word-for-word) sometimes bring new understanding.

Hope you don't mind my participating in your discussion! It is enlightening and giving me a different perspective.
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Andreidita

Nothing Contradicts from what I posted and, I do not judge for who am I to judge when I myself am walking through this narrow path, I only stated. What I said is accurate. No one comes to the father and this spiritual understandin without coming to Christ Jesus. No one can do it by actions alone as being kind or good. Or looking for inner peace by self. Peace is only found through Jesus Christ that's why they call him the prince of peace there is no other way. Again I spoke of new agers who have this mentality of self christened, it doesn't work that way. To meditate and to become like christ without coming to Jesus and asking him for forgiveness and accepting him as your savior. it's the same thing as lucifer wanting to be like God. Like those satanists that say do what thou will because your gods. Now if a person has asked and been born again with his spirit then one knows that aside from God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit you can do nothing.
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what you say is true. what you see as flawed at new agers is desire/ego wanting to attain by it own. and of course it doesn t work this way. that is why the tower of babel had fallen. but seeking inner peace is never a desire of ego, and is equivalent with asking Him.

But from this point you speak, what do you think is the point of searching desperately with the mind what is the Plan of the Father? Is it not plainly said in the book that only Father knows the exact time?
Is this not arrogance of the ego/mind, trying to understand things that it will never understand?
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Microchip is not the Mark of the Beast, or neither any of those 'marking' things you might come up with. Period.
Most have already accepted that Mark provisionally out of their total ignorance of the issue or by the shear lack of elementary and discernment.

The Seal of of the Covenant with Yahweh is His Sabbath.

What then would be the Mark?
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Yea, maybe wormwood is spiritual in nature too, or something that we don't expect it to be?
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The 5th and 6th trumpets are most surely blowing, they are the false teachers.

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The Serpents and Scorpions

Luk_10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

The number of false teachers is a metaphor 2 hundred thousand thousand which is a big indetermined number.

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From G3463; a ten thousand; by extension a “myriad” or indefinite number: - ten thousand.

The christian church is completely controlled by the transgressors.

Dan_8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

False Doctrine IS the judgement. Those with itching ears getting just what they want.

The tribulation is the deception, the indignation of the Lord. The only safe place is the truth. Abide in Christ Abide in the truth.
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Andreidita

Is this not arrogance of the ego/mind, trying to understand things that it will never understand?

No it's a hunger for spiritual understanding and wisdom all of us have it. It's what causes us to seek truth and come to Jesus Christ. You said to seek inner peace is equivalent to asking Jesus in your heart and it is not. When you are born by his spirit, The Holy Spirit or as Solomon said Spirit of Wisdom/and Love, and ask for wisdom as well as peace you don't have to seek within you will just have it. For the spirit of Wisdom/Love will be within you. It's not equivalent.
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Way to rock today Lisa Glory to our Kingsmile_kiss
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That which has been is now; and that which is to be has already been; and ELOHIYM requires that which is past. Ecc 3:15

Look to the past to see the future, How YHWH did it in the past, Is how He will do it in the future

Moses was a deliverer, He led the Assembly out of Egypt < the Greater Exodus is like He Did it in the past but this Time, the Whole Earth – 144,000 Assemblies Of Mt. Zion

And YHWH will create upon every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and upon Her Assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a chuppah. Is 4:5

According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I show unto him marvellous things. The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. Micah 7:15-16

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the ADONAY shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. And He shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. Is 11:11-12

As I live, saith ADONAY YHWH, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you Face to face. Ez 20:33-35

Watch you therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man. Lu 21:36

The Woman with the twelve stars/ Tribes of Israel

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of ELOHIYM, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Rev 12:6,14

You have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto Myself. Ex 19:4

Just because you come out in an assembly, It doesn't mean you will enter the Dabar Land.

And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against Me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and you shall know that I am YHWH. Ez 20:38

Moreover, brethren, I would not that you should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1 Cor 10:1,11
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LisaLisa, yes that can be a tad hard to read blink

It's taking me quite some time to go through just that chapter of Matthew. Transliterations (text translated literally word-for-word) sometimes bring new understanding.

Hope you don't mind my participating in your discussion! It is enlightening and giving me a different perspective.
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The more the merrier!

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Way to rock today Lisa Glory to our Kingsmile_kiss
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No it's a hunger for spiritual understanding and wisdom all of us have it. It's what causes us to seek truth and come to Jesus Christ.
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i know of that hunger. used to be my main dish. Looking to those time, i smile at myself because i know which part was hungry. And it was not that part which knows Christ.:)

Hunger is Hunger, even if it is for 'spiritual' understanding.

But as you are well set upon your path, who am i to interfere.
Tread your path lightly.
And may God be on your side.
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I have actually reconsidered about the said by me below.
And this is why:

[link to www.ellenwhiteexposed.com]

Microchip is not the Mark of the Beast, or neither any of those 'marking' things you might come up with. Period.
Most have already accepted that Mark provisionally out of their total ignorance of the issue or by the shear lack of elementary and discernment.

The Seal of of the Covenant with Yahweh is His Sabbath.

What then would be the Mark?
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Lisa*Lisa : Then in all sincerity please tell me what the Lord related to you. I really do want to know...I won't condemn or ridicule what you say.
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Several years ago I was reading about the aliens, and reading all sorts of things. Some of them appeared to be good, like they were going to help us, and some appeared to be bad. I honestly didn't know what to believe about it, so I prayed and asked The Lord to tell me the truth.

He did, He said 4 words to me, "Good cop, bad cop" and I instantly knew what He meant.

Some will appear to be good, and some will appear to be bad, but they both have the same agenda.

I never forgot it. A few months later I was talking with a christian friend of mine and the subject of aliens came up. I shared with her what the Lord told me, and she said that the Lord also spoke those same exact 4 words to her when she prayed about it asking for an answer.

Both of us were stunned, but we knew it was the truth that He had spoken.
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tricky tricky

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Andreidita

Nothing Contradicts from what I posted and, I do not judge for who am I to judge when I myself am walking through this narrow path, I only stated. What I said is accurate. No one comes to the father and this spiritual understandin without coming to Christ Jesus. No one can do it by actions alone as being kind or good. Or looking for inner peace by self. Peace is only found through Jesus Christ that's why they call him the prince of peace ere is no other way. Again I spoke of new agers who have this mentality of self christened, it doesn't work that way. To meditate and to become like christ without coming to Jesus and asking him for forgiveness and accepting him as your savior. it's the same thing as lucifer wanting to be like God. Like those satanists that say do what thou will because your gods. Now if a person has asked and been born again with his spirit then one knows that aside from God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit you can do nothing.
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What's humorous is that when Christians go through a spiritual awakening they attribute it to Jesus Christ saving them but when non-Christians go through a spiritual awakening they get told by Christians that it's bullshit and only an external savior can help them. In your infinite wisdom you neglected to comprehend that the concept of spiritual awakening is a Universal one that is not bound by religion nor time - it is about the evolution of conscious awareness. It has been understood by cultures and 'religions' that have predated Christianity and even the alleged time of Jesus. One day you will step outside of the box you have created and humble yourself and realize that your religion (nor any religion) does not own a copyright on this experience and transformation of consciousness. Do you see non-Christians writing off your personal/spiritual experiences the way you do onto others? You can't accept that others could have these experiences without the context of Christianity, maybe it's too painful psychologically for you to accept this? Perhaps you are so emotionally invested in your 'way' of doing things that you cannot understand nor accept that there are multiple paths to the same destination. One day you will find the awareness to look back and realize the error in your false judgement/assessment of the experiences of others. One day.


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