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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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More detail on Channel 10's report on a unilateral Israel ceasefire has come in. Their defence correspondent Alon Ben David reports that following a long discussion in Netanyahu's nine-member kitchen cabinet, they decided that an agreement on Israel's terms could not be achieved and Israel would unilaterally declare a ceasefire. Egypt would then be left to pressure Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other militant organizations in the Gaza Strip to hold their fire as well. The channel's senior diplomatic correspondent, Emanuel Rosen, said the announcement will also include a list of concessions to Gaza including lifting restrictions for export.

Doom off
 Quoting: strikeforce


That is a victory for Hamas, or it at least can be spun as one.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


not when you still have 75k troops on call, ready to go..

ohyeah
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No they didn't. They lifted PARTS of it. Hamas wants a complete exit or they will continue.

Israel has NEVER tried it because they don't want peace.

Nice try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28214649



Ever read the Hamas charter?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Changing the subject when you are losing a debate is admission of defeat.

I win. You lose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28215878


So, me asking if you ever read the Hamas charter, which clearly states that they want to destroy the state of Israel, is changing the subject about who does and who doesn't want peace?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Yep, because Israel says the exact same thing. They want everything to the Jordan river.

Why do you skip over that part? hmmm?
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would be a teriffyingly stupid idea, but that's just my thinking.
 Quoting: godzilla85


ISRAELI OFFICIALS DENY - Israel radio

YNet, Haaretz will often publish this "hoping" it's true..
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


whoever is giving em this crap...should be jailed for the disinformation.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Hamas just took responsibility for the bus bombing

A unilateral ceasefire would be a political move to prepare for retaliation if/when attacks continue
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Source & Link?
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
On another thread, the fact that today's Tel Aviv bombing might have been an attempt to derail a ceasefire was raised....

Who would want to keep the current hostilities going?

Erin Cunningham (@erinmcunningham)
11/21/12, 11:22 AM
Tel Aviv bomb RT @DaliaHatuqa A small group by name of Jihad Jibril Brigades belonging to Popular Front- General Command claimed responsib

DavidKenner (@DavidKenner)
11/21/12, 11:25 AM
@erinmcunningham @DaliaHatuqa PFLP-GC is an Assad-controlled Palestinian group, poor Jihad killed in Beirut number of years ago.

Note - Members of both Hamas & al Aqsa Brigade supposedly claimed responsibility for attack (those claims have been retracted)...
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You are about to see an escalation like you have never seen before and will probably never see again.

The Lord is with you Israel.
It is time your people understood this.

In Jesus Christ!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


Doubtful.
Ez
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Anyone have a working feed?
 Quoting: AdamCanFly


Not yet
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When Israel stops forcefully OCCUPYING and blockading Gaza.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28214649


They tried that. Got rockets in return.

Next.
 Quoting: Monk Meat



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Yeah no sense in going longer than that...
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More detail on Channel 10's report on a unilateral Israel ceasefire has come in. Their defence correspondent Alon Ben David reports that following a long discussion in Netanyahu's nine-member kitchen cabinet, they decided that an agreement on Israel's terms could not be achieved and Israel would unilaterally declare a ceasefire. Egypt would then be left to pressure Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other militant organizations in the Gaza Strip to hold their fire as well. The channel's senior diplomatic correspondent, Emanuel Rosen, said the announcement will also include a list of concessions to Gaza including lifting restrictions for export.

Doom off
 Quoting: strikeforce


That is a victory for Hamas, or it at least can be spun as one.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


No spin necessary.

resist
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Israel, Hamas expected to hold their fire in coming hours

Despite massive rocket fire from Gaza and terror attack in Tel Aviv, Israel and Islamist group expected to hold their fire in evening hours; apparent ceasefire based on agreements between Israel, Egypt, US

[link to www.ynetnews.com]


Is this a trusted source?
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


well yesterday almost every news source told us that there will be a ceasefire in hours..you know what happened!
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More detail on Channel 10's report on a unilateral Israel ceasefire has come in. Their defence correspondent Alon Ben David reports that following a long discussion in Netanyahu's nine-member kitchen cabinet, they decided that an agreement on Israel's terms could not be achieved and Israel would unilaterally declare a ceasefire. Egypt would then be left to pressure Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other militant organizations in the Gaza Strip to hold their fire as well. The channel's senior diplomatic correspondent, Emanuel Rosen, said the announcement will also include a list of concessions to Gaza including lifting restrictions for export.

Doom off
 Quoting: strikeforce


Link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10393879


HOW THE HELL can they even talk about ceasefire after today?!?!

i don't get that! israel should be in gaza an hour after the bus attack!

how can they be that stupid to think that hamas will hold their fire? there are so many groups who doesn't work directly for hamas?! this just can't be successful!

don't get me wrong, peace is good, but peace between them is almost impossible!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


just remember, israeli media plays a role in the conflict as well, mostly geared at the international community
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SUPPORT GAZA Not HAMAS
 Quoting: Support gaza 501050


If you really pay attention, most people want all the muslim terrorists dead.

Not the innocent civillians that want to live in peace.
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More detail on Channel 10's report on a unilateral Israel ceasefire has come in. Their defence correspondent Alon Ben David reports that following a long discussion in Netanyahu's nine-member kitchen cabinet, they decided that an agreement on Israel's terms could not be achieved and Israel would unilaterally declare a ceasefire. Egypt would then be left to pressure Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other militant organizations in the Gaza Strip to hold their fire as well. The channel's senior diplomatic correspondent, Emanuel Rosen, said the announcement will also include a list of concessions to Gaza including lifting restrictions for export.

Doom off
 Quoting: strikeforce


Unilateral ceasefire is a surrender.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26727474


by definition, absolutely correct
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So, a bus was hit and they are talking ceasefire?

Just woke up...
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
More detail on Channel 10's report on a unilateral Israel ceasefire has come in. Their defence correspondent Alon Ben David reports that following a long discussion in Netanyahu's nine-member kitchen cabinet, they decided that an agreement on Israel's terms could not be achieved and Israel would unilaterally declare a ceasefire. Egypt would then be left to pressure Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other militant organizations in the Gaza Strip to hold their fire as well. The channel's senior diplomatic correspondent, Emanuel Rosen, said the announcement will also include a list of concessions to Gaza including lifting restrictions for export.

Doom off
 Quoting: strikeforce


Hamas and the others won't stop firing, then we see a ground war.
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There won't be a ceasefire, Israel refuses to end the occupation of Gaza.

Israel doesn't want peace, that much is obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28206753




What rock do you live under? Hamas will not admit that Israel has a right to exist, and that their ceasefire will be permanent. Israel wants peace---peace is all they are asking for. Hamas refuses. Only the blind and deaf jew haters cannot understand that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28215028


Occupation and Palestine is all they want.

FACT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28215878


secrets No such place as "Palestine"
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Sure there is. Got a map? Check it out. It was there the last time I checked.

The UN will take care of the rest.
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Explosion sound Beer Sheva, Ashkelon
2011-2012 - Poland82
2012-? - Boku82
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who's that old snackbar guy on every feed?
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Quite the political move..We all know that Hamass will not stop..
 Quoting: THE INQUISADOR


would be a teriffyingly stupid idea, but that's just my thinking.
 Quoting: godzilla85


ISRAELI OFFICIALS DENY - Israel radio

YNet, Haaretz will often publish this "hoping" it's true..
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


whoever is giving em this crap...should be jailed for the disinformation.
 Quoting: godzilla85


But then Harry wouldn't have a job and all his training would be wasted.
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
On another thread, the fact that today's Tel Aviv bombing might have been an attempt to derail a ceasefire was raised....

Who would want to keep the current hostilities going?

Erin Cunningham (@erinmcunningham)
11/21/12, 11:22 AM
Tel Aviv bomb RT @DaliaHatuqa A small group by name of Jihad Jibril Brigades belonging to Popular Front- General Command claimed responsib

DavidKenner (@DavidKenner)
11/21/12, 11:25 AM
@erinmcunningham @DaliaHatuqa PFLP-GC is an Assad-controlled Palestinian group, poor Jihad killed in Beirut number of years ago.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


ohyeah Hezbollah provocation in touch with Israeli Arab with access to Israeli ID
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unilateral ceasefire...a victory for Islam

oridin
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maybe OT but ME topic:


NATO has confirmed it received a request by Ankara to deploy Patriot missiles on Turkish territory. The coalition said it would process the appeal soon.
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RT @ RT_com
Iran supplying # Gaza fighters with missile technology to produce longer-range missiles on their own
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


I wonder how Persia would feel if ISrael supplied Kurdish people with weapons and plans to mass produce them to use on Persia???
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There won't be a ceasefire, Israel refuses to end the occupation of Gaza.

Israel doesn't want peace, that much is obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28206753




What rock do you live under? Hamas will not admit that Israel has a right to exist, and that their ceasefire will be permanent. Israel wants peace---peace is all they are asking for. Hamas refuses. Only the blind and deaf jew haters cannot understand that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28215028


Occupation and Palestine is all they want.

FACT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28215878


secrets No such place as "Palestine"
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Yes there is, and has been since at least the 5th century BC.
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Israel, Hamas expected to hold their fire in coming hours

Despite massive rocket fire from Gaza and terror attack in Tel Aviv, Israel and Islamist group expected to hold their fire in evening hours; apparent ceasefire based on agreements between Israel, Egypt, US

[link to www.ynetnews.com]


Is this a trusted source?
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


lol in Israel we call them Lienet ,they are trying
to be balanced with their English section but in the
Hebrew section they often lean to the left side .

no ,not trusted in this case ,they are trying to force
cease fire since the operation started .
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who's that old snackbar guy on every feed?
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No idea but he is getting on my nerves
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Good idea for Israel, they won't bomb anymore but will wait until Gaza has a good rocket explosion in Israel, then they will go in guns blazing and media will play it out like its Gaza fault
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19058378
I truly don't think the media will ever back Israel. Not matter what happens they will spin it that Israel is at fault.
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If Israel ceases fire, it's one of two things. Probably both.
One; as a propaganda tool to spread the idea they were open to peace before invasion.
Two; other players step in, not countries or nationalists, think at the top of the secret societies.
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RT @ RT_com
Iran supplying # Gaza fighters with missile technology to produce longer-range missiles on their own
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


I wonder how Persia would feel if ISrael supplied Kurdish people with weapons and plans to mass produce them to use on Persia???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27806237


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

They already did that.
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breaking: renewed Naval shelling off #Gaza coast
 Quoting: DoorBert


Thanks DB.At least you give us the low down and fast.Guess no cease fire huh ?

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