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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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i'm trying to get this guy to reply.. I'm interested in what he thinks. Duh!!
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Attempts at an Islamist coup in Sudan

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plus: Iran offers Jordan an attractive gas deal
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For Morsi's first stage show, he has really set himself up as a diplomatic guarantor against Hamas. When the truce fails, will this give Bibi what he needs to move ahead and get the Obama/Hillary-caliphate off his back?
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that was my first thought, when I heard Egypt is now responsible for Hamas.. does that mean Israel can have a go at Egypt when SHTF?

ohyeah
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


I wouldn't....unless Egypt gets involved. I just feel Morsi has placed himself in a bad position....he will have to watch Hamas and at the same time watch his local (radical) Muslim Brotherhood. The old-boy is in a bad position in IMHO.
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My take is that the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood has been a strategy for Gaza since Day 1. These movements do not know boundaries, for them, their cause is on the front lines in Gaza. The only way out for Hamas since 2006 was to work with their parent movement across the border towards regime change in Egypt.

This is what STRATFOR wrote back in '07, way before Tahrir Square:

Hamas’ long-term strategy — indeed, the only hope of the Palestinians who not prepared to accept a compromise with Israel — is for Egypt to change its tune toward Israel, which could very well involve energizing Islamist forces in Egypt and bringing about the fall of the Mubarak regime. That is the key to any solution for Hamas....

If an Islamist rising occurred in Egypt and a regime was installed that could energize the Egyptian public against Israel, then that would reflect a strategic threat to the survival of the Israeli state....

[W]ith or without the West Bank, Hamas has the potential — not the certainty, just the potential — to reach west along the Mediterranean coast and influence events in Egypt. And that is the key for Hamas.

(Friedman, 'The Geopolitics of the Palestinians', STRATFOR, June 19, 2007)
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Okay, but Morsi is NOW on the world political stage; will he move radically as fast as Hamas and the MB want him to.
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Ramat Negev: Katiusha found, probably fired from Sinai

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Morsi responsible?
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Whatever man. Who really cares anyway. This thing needs to go to a final solution. You think Hamas is up for the challenge? Lol.
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Sure why not?
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You're completely out of touch with reality. Which is why you can't see the obvious.
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WTF would Hammas start some shit if Egypt would be held responsibe to Isreal. Morsi put his balls on the line here and the last thing Egypt wants is a regional war.. Stop drinking the MSM koolaid man
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Because that's what Hamas does-- start shit. Do you really think Hamas cares who's balls are on the line? Do you think Egypt cares if they're "responsible" or not? Honor is not a term understood by these entities.

Hamas will do what Hamas does and fools will continue to apologize for them. Fools love good company.
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Okay, but Morsi is NOW on the world political stage; will he move radically as fast as Hamas and the MB want him to.
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exactly
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Sure why not?
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You're completely out of touch with reality. Which is why you can't see the obvious.


WTF would Hammas start some shit if Egypt would be held responsibe to Isreal. Morsi put his balls on the line here and the last thing Egypt wants is a regional war.. Stop drinking the MSM koolai
 Quoting: Adventus Domini
/quote]

Because that's what Hamas does-- start shit. Do you really think Hamas cares who's balls are on the line? Do you think Egypt cares if they're "responsible" or not? Hono
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28255783
a term understood by these entities.

Hamas will do what Hamas does and fools will continue to apologize for them. Fools love good company.




You are completely clueless. Hamas has more to lose than Israel because Hilery/Obamma have sanctioned it. It pointless arguing with a fan boy like you.
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Because that's what Hamas does-- start shit. Do you really think Hamas cares who's balls are on the line? Do you think Egypt cares if they're "responsible" or not? Honor is not a term understood by these entities.

Hamas will do what Hamas does and fools will continue to apologize for them. Fools love good company.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


That's why it's so sad Israel didn't completely dismantle Hamas when they had the chance now...it was in disarray and crippled from airstrikes !
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Hezbollah missiles would be test for Iron Dome

Hezbollah will have been closely scrutinizing the capabilities of Iron Dome during this latest conflict in Gaza to look for potential vulnerabilities and to conjure up tactics to outwit the system.

Hezbollah’s current array of rockets surpasses in size and sophistication its arsenal of 2006, when the longest range system in its possession was the Zelzal-2, an Iranian 610mm unguided rocket carrying a 600-kilogram warhead with a reach of some 210 kilometers. The Zelzal-2 was not fired in the 2006 war; the largest rocket launched during that conflict was the Syrian-manufactured B302.

Hezbollah reportedly has been trained on the Scud short-range ballistic missile, although there are mixed reports on whether any have been transferred into Lebanon. Other than the Scud, Hezbollah is believed to have acquired the M600, a guided missile manufactured by Syria and based on Iran’s Fateh A-110. The M600 is thought to have a 500-kilogram warhead, a range of 240 kilometers and an ability to strike within 100 to 500 meters of its target.

Unusually for the secretive Syrian military, televised exercises were held in December 2011 and July 2012 to show off Syria’s missile capabilities, including anti-ship, anti-aircraft and surface-to-surface systems. The purpose appears to have been to warn the international community of the risks of a foreign military intervention on behalf of the Syrian opposition.

Of particular interest in the Hezbollah-Israel context was the first public unveiling of the M600, identified by the Syrians as the “Tishreen.” Also shown was the “Maysalun,” the Syrian-engineered version of the Iranian Zelzal-2.

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Anonymous Coward 28255783, you are completely incapable of correctly quoting somebody's post !

Just look at you previous posts and you'll see I'm right...

Besides being the biggest troll on this thread for a week now, you're also incapable of clearly expressing an opinion and I assume you're a native English speaker !
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Sure why not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28255783


You're completely out of touch with reality. Which is why you can't see the obvious.


WTF would Hammas start some shit if Egypt would be held responsibe to Isreal. Morsi put his balls on the line here and the last thing Egypt wants is a regional war.. Stop drinking the MSM koolai
 Quoting: Adventus Domini
/quote]

Because that's what Hamas does-- start shit. Do you really think Hamas cares who's balls are on the line? Do you think Egypt cares if they're "responsible" or not? Hono
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28255783
a term understood by these entities.

Hamas will do what Hamas does and fools will continue to apologize for them. Fools love good company.


......................................................

lets try this again shall we..


You are completely clueless. Hamas has more to lose than Israel because Hilery/Obamma have sanctioned
 Quoting: Adventus Domini
ointless arguing with a one eyed fan boy like you.
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Why Hezbollah is sitting on 40,000 rockets and missiles and sitting out the Gaza conflict

So Hezbollah is working off its own timetable, say analysts. The group has several equities it must be concerned about: Its political position in Lebanon, where as noted it is part of the governing party; the stability of one of its biggest protectors, the Assad regime in Damascus; and uncertainty over the political future in Iran, which has been its main protector and weapons supplier.

In short, say analysts, the bar is set high for Hezbollah to get directly involved in the Gazan conflict ... with one exception: Hezbollah might move if it felt its arsenal of more than 40,000 rockets and missiles was threatened.

Both Israel and Hezbollah have to know that the success of the Iron Dome anti-rocket and missile system could, in the long term, dilute the value of that stockpile and could make Israel more confident in pursuing the Lebanese group.

That is unlikely happen for a while. Danin explained that Iron Dome, which has been so successful in knocking down Hamas rockets, is not designed to take out the long-range rockets and missiles in the Hezbollah arsenal. However, Israel does have a follow-on system, known as Magic Wand, based on the same basic technology, which could be effective against Hezbollah's rockets and missiles. Problem is that it won't be ready until 2015.

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Anonymous Coward 28255783, you are completely incapable of correctly quoting somebody's post !

Just look at you previous posts and you'll see I'm right...

Besides being the biggest troll on this thread for a week now, you're also incapable of clearly expressing an opinion and I assume you're a native English speaker !
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It's the quoting system you moran

Are you a n00b here or something.
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I've been here for 7 years (5 as an AC) and the quoting system seems to work fine for everyone else, you just have to learn to use a computer !
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Head of Hamas Ismail Haniyeh expected to speak shortly after leaving his hiding place around midnight on Wednesday.
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Islamic Jihad: Tel Aviv is no longer a guarded fortress
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Why Hezbollah is sitting on 40,000 rockets and missiles and sitting out the Gaza conflict

So Hezbollah is working off its own timetable, say analysts. The group has several equities it must be concerned about: Its political position in Lebanon, where as noted it is part of the governing party; the stability of one of its biggest protectors, the Assad regime in Damascus; and uncertainty over the political future in Iran, which has been its main protector and weapons supplier.

In short, say analysts, the bar is set high for Hezbollah to get directly involved in the Gazan conflict ... with one exception: Hezbollah might move if it felt its arsenal of more than 40,000 rockets and missiles was threatened.

Both Israel and Hezbollah have to know that the success of the Iron Dome anti-rocket and missile system could, in the long term, dilute the value of that stockpile and could make Israel more confident in pursuing the Lebanese group.

That is unlikely happen for a while. Danin explained that Iron Dome, which has been so successful in knocking down Hamas rockets, is not designed to take out the long-range rockets and missiles in the Hezbollah arsenal. However, Israel does have a follow-on system, known as Magic Wand, based on the same basic technology, which could be effective against Hezbollah's rockets and missiles. Problem is that it won't be ready until 2015.

[link to worldnews.nbcnews.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx



Thanks Tarfon, your insight on this thread has been exceptional my friend !
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Air raid sirens sounded shortly after 10 am on Thursday in the Eshkol Regional Council after a rocket appeared to have been fired towards the region from Gaza. Witnesses said that they saw the rocket exploding in a Palestinian territory.

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Anonymous Coward 28255783, you are completely incapable of correctly quoting somebody's post !

Just look at you previous posts and you'll see I'm right...

Besides being the biggest troll on this thread for a week now, you're also incapable of clearly expressing an opinion and I assume you're a native English speaker !
 Quoting: subzero86


It's the quoting system you moran

Are you a n00b here or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28255783


I've been here for 7 years (5 as an AC) and the quoting system seems to work fine for everyone else, you just have to learn to use a computer !
 Quoting: subzero86



If you have been here for that long you would know the quoting system on the GLP fails alot.


LOL, your kung foo is weak
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Kung-Fu*****
Carpe Diem
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Head of Hamas Ismail Haniyeh expected to speak shortly after leaving his hiding place around midnight on Wednesday.
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Don't get too much out there Ismail!
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All over the arab world from Marocco to Saudi they are celebrating the victory of Gaza.

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Head of Hamas Ismail Haniyeh expected to speak shortly after leaving his hiding place around midnight on Wednesday.
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Don't get too much out there Ismail!
 Quoting: MisterHouston


ohyeahohyeahohyeah
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Head of Hamas Ismail Haniyeh expected to speak shortly after leaving his hiding place around midnight on Wednesday.
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Don't get too much out there Ismail!
 Quoting: MisterHouston


:mossad:

They will be watching him very closely...chuckle
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can i get a live stream status update? I know reuters is up
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Subzero.

Have you thrown your toys out of the pram yet and reported me.

ohyeah
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Respectively suggesting that everyone just ignore these type of posters.....if no one responds, they implode and disappear.
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can i get a live stream status update? I know reuters is up
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it's over my friend, no more gaza live cams!

but there is an israeli press con soon starting on reuters
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Respectively suggesting that everyone just ignore these type of posters.....if no one responds, they implode and disappear.
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Very good suggestion, he's probably a spoiled brat that needs some attention and as you've said, the best way to handle this kind of person is to ignore them !
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Respectively suggesting that everyone just ignore these type of posters.....if no one responds, they implode and disappear.
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Very good suggestion, he's probably a spoiled brat that needs some attention and as you've said, the best way to handle this kind of person is to ignore them !
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Yes, seriously....they cannot handle being ignored...they can't feed off it.
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