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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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Exactly, people cant see it was a failure, yet the think Israel "kicked ass"
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Doom ? Boom Boom ?
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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Exactly, people cant see it was a failure, yet the think Israel "kicked ass"
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NOT
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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Exactly, people cant see it was a failure, yet the think Israel "kicked ass"
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NOT
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So you think they wont launch rockets again once they regain strength like they have for decades?

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People in Israel are not happy. The only way Bibi can get away with this is if he joins forces with the right-wing parties so that people have no choice between the Left and Bibi. I've seen people talking about voting left just to topple him. (won't happen)
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I won´t bet on it. Bibi probably has another opportunity, if he misses it, bye-bye bibi
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People in Israel are not happy. The only way Bibi can get away with this is if he joins forces with the right-wing parties so that people have no choice between the Left and Bibi. I've seen people talking about voting left just to topple him. (won't happen)

Israel has refused to lift the blockade for years. Why would an operation started by Israel with the upper hand, taking out a Hamas leader by surprise, end in giving in to an untouchable Israeli condition? Either Hilary stopped Bibi in his tracks threatening to kill Iron Dome, or this is a move of deception.
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


How could the US kill Iron Dome ? Isn't it build by the Israelis ? Are you talking about stopping funding !?

I personally think Obummber threatened that he would not support Israel if a wider war broke out in the region !
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Obama said he would not supply the replacement components and Israel can't make them...
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Tomorrow is "Black Friday". What about a False Flag to pull us in or legitimize a huge retaliatory strike by Israel..... thoughts? Also, were any of the Ships in the Marine Unit scheduled to be mothballed?
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Fatah flags flown next to Hamas flags in Gaza city
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28269634


Exactly, people cant see it was a failure, yet the think Israel "kicked ass"
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NOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28269634


So you think they wont launch rockets again once they regain strength like they have for decades?

crazyjak
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how the fuck should i know. i'm not a fucking psychic
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Exactly, people cant see it was a failure, yet the think Israel "kicked ass"
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NOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28269634


So you think they wont launch rockets again once they regain strength like they have for decades?

crazyjak
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how the fuck should i know. i'm not a fucking psychic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28269634


I know you're not but history repeats itself, Israel have ironicaly helped Hamas by reuniting them with fateh, whom were against each other for years.

Like someone said on Israeli TV, it's a turning point in Middle Eastern politics
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I am going cold turkey..

I need the BREAKING!
ROCKETS FROM HAMAS
ISRAEL NAVY SHELLING HAMAS
RT BACK ON

I miss it..
the sound of davy cricket, Rooster, Drones
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I weant to bed with that sound in my ear.
Stay strong my friend!!!


huffy
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ohyeah
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Tomorrow is "Black Friday". What about a False Flag to pull us in or legitimize a huge retaliatory strike by Israel..... thoughts? Also, were any of the Ships in the Marine Unit scheduled to be mothballed?
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bump

US Military Now Considering Sending Even More Ships To Mediterranean

Senior U.S. military officers are considering increasing the American military presence in the east Mediterranean, Barbara Starr of CNN reports.

"From there, you can get to a lot of places in a short period of time,"

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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Tomorrow is "Black Friday". What about a False Flag to pull us in or legitimize a huge retaliatory strike by Israel..... thoughts? Also, were any of the Ships in the Marine Unit scheduled to be mothballed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 219249


bump

US Military Now Considering Sending Even More Ships To Mediterranean

Senior U.S. military officers are considering increasing the American military presence in the east Mediterranean, Barbara Starr of CNN reports.

"From there, you can get to a lot of places in a short period of time,"

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Won't be surprised if America will start using British bases in Cyprus more regularly now
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not an allarm ?? :( a car allarm ??? :((( a ring bell ? :(((((
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so.. muzzies won this time ??
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so.. muzzies won this time ??
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wtf here re celebrating grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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chuckle
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It's all right in front of you, and most of you don't even see it. Its not a blatant win or lose for Israel, but a very interesting strategy in a war that hasn't ended.

Think about it: why would Israel suddenly, even just after a terrorist bombing in Tel Aviv, give in to cease-fire and even some of Hamas' demands? Why? When he amassed an army on the borders of Gaza ready to deploy?

Most of the world sees Palestine/Gaza strip as a suppressed Arab state being bullied by big bad Israel, as per Hamas propaganda. We all know that this isn't the case and people need to understand that the Arab world refuses to accept the state of Israel, simply because they are a JEWISH state. Now think about Israel's position. They are literally surrounded by people who hate them.

Yes, 4 IDF soldiers were merely injured next to the 104, give or take, Palestinians that were killed as a result of airstrikes, but the Arabic nations, as a majority, wish and have declared publically that their goal is to wipe Israel and the Jewish people from the face of the earth. Unfortunately for them, attempting to pick a fight with a people who, since the fall of the Kingdom of Israel at the hands of the Romans, have been bullied for a couple thousand years, it's only natural that they are going to start pushing back. Hence, the week long conflict we just witnessed.

Now here's my point: What Netanyahu did, was probably the single greatest, and most clever, PR move in recent history.
Instead of continuing on and letting the campaign further commence, he suddenly agreed to cease-fire and put the ball entirely, 100% in the Hamas/Arab people's court. Israel and Hamas were both under pressure from the United Nations and the Arab states, as you all know, to have a cease-fire. But Israel, being with a better prepared military, was made out to be the heavy.

Nothing Netanyahu could've said or done would've justified further actions of Israel against Hamas in a lot of peoples' eyes. So, he needed a fail-safe. One that, if needed to be used, would let the UN and the world powers completely see what Israel has been going through and has had to deal with for decades. An "I told you so" kind of thing. He let the Arab's have their way.

If Hamas/Palestine, Hezbollah, etc break this truce, Israel can say, "We've been reasonable, didn't invade when we could've, agreed to cease-fire and gave them what they wanted. But they broke the rules AGAIN."

In this, Israel will, obviously, not only be justified, but they will be backed up to wage war with whomever breaks this cease-fire. And then we shall see who comes in from behind the scenes in the Arab world to fight against Israel with the instigators.

It could be days, weeks, months or years even. But, it will be interesting.
Carpe Diem
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It's all right in front of you, and most of you don't even see it. Its not a blatant win or lose for Israel, but a very interesting strategy in a war that hasn't ended.

Think about it: why would Israel suddenly, even just after a terrorist bombing in Tel Aviv, give in to cease-fire and even some of Hamas' demands? Why? When he amassed an army on the borders of Gaza ready to deploy?

Most of the world sees Palestine/Gaza strip as a suppressed Arab state being bullied by big bad Israel, as per Hamas propaganda. We all know that this isn't the case and people need to understand that the Arab world refuses to accept the state of Israel, simply because they are a JEWISH state. Now think about Israel's position. They are literally surrounded by people who hate them.

Yes, 4 IDF soldiers were merely injured next to the 104, give or take, Palestinians that were killed as a result of airstrikes, but the Arabic nations, as a majority, wish and have declared publically that their goal is to wipe Israel and the Jewish people from the face of the earth. Unfortunately for them, attempting to pick a fight with a people who, since the fall of the Kingdom of Israel at the hands of the Romans, have been bullied for a couple thousand years, it's only natural that they are going to start pushing back. Hence, the week long conflict we just witnessed.

Now here's my point: What Netanyahu did, was probably the single greatest, and most clever, PR move in recent history.
Instead of continuing on and letting the campaign further commence, he suddenly agreed to cease-fire and put the ball entirely, 100% in the Hamas/Arab people's court. Israel and Hamas were both under pressure from the United Nations and the Arab states, as you all know, to have a cease-fire. But Israel, being with a better prepared military, was made out to be the heavy.

Nothing Netanyahu could've said or done would've justified further actions of Israel against Hamas in a lot of peoples' eyes. So, he needed a fail-safe. One that, if needed to be used, would let the UN and the world powers completely see what Israel has been going through and has had to deal with for decades. An "I told you so" kind of thing. He let the Arab's have their way.

If Hamas/Palestine, Hezbollah, etc break this truce, Israel can say, "We've been reasonable, didn't invade when we could've, agreed to cease-fire and gave them what they wanted. But they broke the rules AGAIN."

In this, Israel will, obviously, not only be justified, but they will be backed up to wage war with whomever breaks this cease-fire. And then we shall see who comes in from behind the scenes in the Arab world to fight against Israel with the instigators.

It could be days, weeks, months or years even. But, it will be interesting.
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What a ridiculous waste of bandwidth.

100% wishful thinking.
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It's all right in front of you, and most of you don't even see it. Its not a blatant win or lose for Israel, but a very interesting strategy in a war that hasn't ended.

Think about it: why would Israel suddenly, even just after a terrorist bombing in Tel Aviv, give in to cease-fire and even some of Hamas' demands? Why? When he amassed an army on the borders of Gaza ready to deploy?

Most of the world sees Palestine/Gaza strip as a suppressed Arab state being bullied by big bad Israel, as per Hamas propaganda. We all know that this isn't the case and people need to understand that the Arab world refuses to accept the state of Israel, simply because they are a JEWISH state. Now think about Israel's position. They are literally surrounded by people who hate them.

Yes, 4 IDF soldiers were merely injured next to the 104, give or take, Palestinians that were killed as a result of airstrikes, but the Arabic nations, as a majority, wish and have declared publically that their goal is to wipe Israel and the Jewish people from the face of the earth. Unfortunately for them, attempting to pick a fight with a people who, since the fall of the Kingdom of Israel at the hands of the Romans, have been bullied for a couple thousand years, it's only natural that they are going to start pushing back. Hence, the week long conflict we just witnessed.

Now here's my point: What Netanyahu did, was probably the single greatest, and most clever, PR move in recent history.
Instead of continuing on and letting the campaign further commence, he suddenly agreed to cease-fire and put the ball entirely, 100% in the Hamas/Arab people's court. Israel and Hamas were both under pressure from the United Nations and the Arab states, as you all know, to have a cease-fire. But Israel, being with a better prepared military, was made out to be the heavy.

Nothing Netanyahu could've said or done would've justified further actions of Israel against Hamas in a lot of peoples' eyes. So, he needed a fail-safe. One that, if needed to be used, would let the UN and the world powers completely see what Israel has been going through and has had to deal with for decades. An "I told you so" kind of thing. He let the Arab's have their way.

If Hamas/Palestine, Hezbollah, etc break this truce, Israel can say, "We've been reasonable, didn't invade when we could've, agreed to cease-fire and gave them what they wanted. But they broke the rules AGAIN."

In this, Israel will, obviously, not only be justified, but they will be backed up to wage war with whomever breaks this cease-fire. And then we shall see who comes in from behind the scenes in the Arab world to fight against Israel with the instigators.

It could be days, weeks, months or years even. But, it will be interesting.
 Quoting: RampantOctopuss


What a ridiculous waste of bandwidth.

100% wishful thinking.
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lol
Carpe Diem
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Alqassam Brigades ‏@AlqassamBrigade

@tyoman Rreally, i liked it too much #IDF from now and forever stands for Israeli Defeated Forces.


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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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chuckle
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+ over 9 thouzaannnddddddddd lolsign
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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chuckle
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+ over 9 thouzaannnddddddddd lolsign
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the fact is Israel is notorious for breaking their agreements..i bet anyone $50 Israel starts shit first :D
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180 Palestinians were arrested since the protests for #gaza began, so 180 in 8 or so days. This is in the #West_Bank #Gaza


damned dooom soooon damned
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UPDATE: 11:19AM IL: IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz has ordered to gradually release soldiers called up for emergency service during Operation Pillar of Defense.



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UPDATE: 11:19AM IL: IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz has ordered to gradually release soldiers called up for emergency service during Operation Pillar of Defense.



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nice catch
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The butthurt in this thread is EPIC
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chuckle
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+ over 9 thouzaannnddddddddd lolsign
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the fact is Israel is notorious for breaking their agreements..i bet anyone $50 Israel starts shit first :D
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yea it is said in this video how it began


"palestinian childs playing soccer being assassinated out of the blue, then palestinian resistance replied with 400+ rockets"

it's atonishing that RT dares to bitch slap Israel calling their operation Pillar of Hipocrisy 1rof1

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What a ridiculous waste of bandwidth.
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that is clearly some classy bitch slapping lolsign
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Alqassam Brigades ‏@AlqassamBrigade

@tyoman Rreally, i liked it too much #IDF from now and forever stands for Israeli Defeated Forces.


trolling level = AlqassamBrigade lolsign
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chuckle

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