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The Zionist PUSSIES keep inventing excuses to justify the fact that they RAN ALWAY from a ground invasion, because they were TOO SCARED of the Palestinian fighters!


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lots of dead and bloody muzzies for you viewing pleasure


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verysadverysad

Heartbreaking.
 Quoting: taniatarn


Heartbreaking what the muzzie scum have brought on themselves.

They wanted the blood-thirsty muslim terroists, now they can deal with what they wanted.
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I think doom is still on...

Israel only agreed to the truce (via Clinton and Netenyahu) on the terms that America would supply them with more munitions and missiles ASAP...

Why would they want to stockpile even more deadly weapons unless they planned on staging another attack/full on invasion soon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27652209


Let's not kid ourselves. Israel's future is very bleak from where I see things.

Try this on for size:

The only reason the IDF didn't go into Gaza is because Obama told Netanyahu that future Iron Dome rollouts depend on Netanyahu doing what Obama asks of him. So the USA will provide defensive assets, but they will not allow Israel to kick ass when necessary.

The USA controls Israel, and is holding them hostage. Israel has some very tough decisions to make about its future right now. The USA has become an enemy with a friendly face.

The Israeli people need to decide if it's worth it. They have no self determination because the USA has PURCHASED them via military dependency. Obama's goal is to have Israel destroyed by others while making it look like he helped them. He did a sickeningly brilliant job of playing both sides of the fence here didn't he?

Israel is fucked. They might as well just assimilate into the rest of the world and let Europe deal with the problem of violent Islam.
 Quoting: ISO


Honestly, ISO, you're pretty smart guy/girl. I know you're frustrated, but do you believe HALF the things you type out?

1) Yes, Obama has Bibi by the balls. But guess what? So does Bibi! Ok, after the US Election has passed, Bibi's grip may not be near as vice-like.... but point still stands. Bibi could crash the world economy and collapse the Western government with one move of eye-brow vis-a-vis Strait of Hormuz -- hell, remember even the Arab Spring only happened because the price of food went up across M.E.....

2) Let's get real here: this is for all those retards who always boasted about how "Israel doesn't need US anymore" ---- oh yes Israel does! And it's not just the Military Foreign Assistence, which actually is fairly negligible considering that 3/4 of it is contractually obligated to be spent inside the US thus crating jobs..... However, US Veto in UN Security Council alone is worth its weight in diamond-encrusted, alien-origin tungstein-platinum! And then there is the INTANGIBLE/SYMBOLIC benefits Israel gets by its mere associationn with the world's only superpowr, as well as through the explicit CREDIT GUARANTEES US has provided Israel during difficult economic times in the past.....

3) Here's another thing: Israelis like all "Westerners" swing wildly from one extreme to the other. First, they are hibernating for 20 freakin' years while Shimon Peres, Aharon Barak, Doris Beinish, Ehud Olmert and other "Peaceniks" all but hi-jacked the country! THEN, when all those fallacious, borderline treasonous Left-wing policies including bringin Arafat's gang back, the surrender of South Lebanon & Gaza in exchange for nothing....reach critical mass, when literally 1000 rockets are raining on their heads does the Israel public suddenly WAKE-UP and angrily start looking for scape-goats!

And since Left-wingers are so shameless they will never admit their errors and instead double-down on their Lala Land promises ------ who else is there for Israelis to knee-jerk blame? Oh yes, Benjamin Netanyahu. Cuz, you see, he's not cool or compliant enough for the hoity-toity circles in Tel Aviv, Washington DC, London, Paris or Brussels. Bibi doesn't want to be a "Good Little Jew" and do fun party tricks for George Soros and Co. So the Israeli public instinctively projects their frustration on Netanyahu. All while on the OTHER aside of the political spectrum, far-Right wing Israelis are all but calling Netanyahu a traitor because he didn't want to carpet-bomb Gaza for negligible strategic gains. Stupid, silly Israelis.... *Sigh*

4) It's NOT about Iron Dome (blackmail by Obama). Iron Dome is Iasraeli technology. Sure America's foreign military assistence goes a long way toward helping complete it in record-short period of time... but really, Israel's annual Military budget is like 50 billion shekels; so worst comes the worst, Israel can manage without American spring-attached $$$.

No, the issue is elsewhere: as I mentioned in my previous 18-point post, Bibi is playing a very SOPHISTICATED 3-D Chess game. Obama's wishes ar only a part of the puzzle, however important. In fact, Bibi is USING Obama as a sort of human shield in setting up a cease-fire & gaining some measure of supervision over those infernal smuggling tunnels via Obama's proxy, Morsi.

5) Now regarding Israel's "bleak" future.... please put down Thomas Friedman and Rashid Khalidi. Wishful thinking. I am not saying Israel is not facing major challenges, but really how of little faith be thee? LOL, did Jews give up when thje Germans bombed Pearl Habour -- or was it the other way around? Did Jews give up during the 2,000 year Exile, massacres, pogroms, mass-rape and forced assimilation?

The Holocaust, Oh my God the Holocaust alone would have finished any other nation/people!!!!... the War of Independence fought with nothing more than sticks and stones and an occasional smuggled Chech Cessna, against huge British trained & equiped Arab armies... even before the 6 Day War noone believed Iasrael could survive not even Lyndon Johnson administration or the French so-called allies of Israel.... then the YKW - Moshe Dayan was pissing down his pantalones OMG it's all over, the Temple has fallen..... then there were all those Soviet-sponsored UN resolutions, all that terror by Fedayyun, then by socialist Pali terror groups, then by Jihadi Pali terror groups....1st Lebanon war... 1st Intifada....a weak Socialist-oriented economy.... 2nd alya, Shamir begging Bush Sr. for 10 billion dollars in loan guarantees just for Israel to make ends meet.....Rabin's assassination; scores of suicide bombings & shootings by Hamas, Hezbollah, culminating in the most cruel, disgusting 2nd Intifada aka The Oslo War ironically launched by Arafat after Ehud Barak essentially gave him everything he wanted at Camp David--- another economic collpase.... the National Identity Crisis as 10,000 "settlers" were torn out of Gaza by their fellow Jews like they were sick dogs.... completely unprepared for 2nd Lebanon war... The Goldstone blood libel........

And you want to give up NOW, when historically speaking, it has never been EASIER to be a Jew or Israeli, when its new High-tech economy has shown surprising resiliency in the face of the Global Financial Crisis?

You want to give up now that Israel has found a ton of shale oil & off-shore gas?

Even the so-called "Demographic Threat" has been over-stated --- Jewish births are up, Arab births are down. Once a new generation of Palestinian women has broken the yoke of male domination at least a little & discover the wonders of Birth-control, morning-after pill ----> you'll start to see reversal.

(Hell, with new in-vitro technologies, worst comes the worst, if the demographics don't look good...in the future Israel would be able to FARM the Jewish babies by 100,000 in special labs, provided by then the oil revenues allow Israel to afford such projects....but I digress)


Take a chill pill, in other words. Live life and have fun. Rock and -- how to say it in English? Ah yes -- roll.

 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 3199014


Hey ISO,

I hope you stepped off the ledge.

It's Thanksgiving time, be thankful Netanyahu hasn't said "screw it I am going to the US to lecture, let the ungrateful Israelis eat each other"
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Soldiers spell out critique of Netanyahu as a ‘loser’ for not using ground forces in Gaza

In Facebook pic that goes viral, 16 men arrange their bodies to show frustration at not going into battle

The IDF Spokesman’s office said Thursday it was looking into a photograph circulating widely on Facebook in which 16 IDF soldiers arranged their uniformed bodies on the sand, to spell out the Hebrew words “Bibi loser” — in a deft physical critique of Prime Minister Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu’s failure to send ground troops into Gaza during the just-ended Operation Pillar of Defense.



[link to www.timesofisrael.com]
 Quoting: Newshunter


LOL, like I said.... "Only in Israel".

Soldiers are soldiers. Officers are officers. Generals are Generals. Prime Minister is Prime Minister.

Never should the 4 be confused about what their ROLE is.

Soldiers, IDF or not, job is to DO or NOT DO what the fuck they are told to. Period. End of story. If Bibi, Barak and Benny Ganz thought it wasn't the right or ideal time to go into Gaza Hell-hole... then I suggest those solider goofballs learn to deal with it. They certainly DON'T get a vote.

Oh and... they should be GRATEFUL that Bibi is sending them home. I know the IDF conscripts have a romantic idea of war, they've done basic training and hey they've played Modern Warfare or BlackOps 5 or whatever -- so they THINK they know what 21st century urban warfare is REALL like....

That is, until they are dropped 100 meters meters outside the planned rally point... their communication equipment is jammed by cheap North Korean gadgets, totally disoriented, can't hear or see shit because of smoke and fire....can't tell Hamas from civilians, can't tell left hand from right hand.... mines, IED, booby-traps, snipers, Kalashnikov-firing teenagers are literally everywhere.... so are intricate systems of Iranian-built tunnels and bunkers.....

the REAL fun starts as Igla-S, Kornet, Metis-M, Milan, RPG-29, RPG-30 and machine guns in every other aparment building window start to do their thang..... Those IDF soldiers would go from "Rambo Chuck Norris" mode to the
ol' "Oh SHEEET, Mommy HELP!!!!!" mode in 3.4 seconds flat!


(All at the same time as the massive Muslim-Marxist propaganda machine worldwide is screaming "Gazacaust, Gazacaust, Gazacaust"; the Egyptian army enters Sinai, Erdogan sends warships... Arab League begins discussion of 1970's style OIL EMBARGO against the West if they dare to intervene or use their veto at the UN Security Council..... not that Barack Hussein Milhaus Obama was going to, anyway.

While Iran sits back and grins like a Cheshire Cat.


I wonder how those same Facebook Soldier would feel about Netanyahu's ground operation decision THEN....assuming they even CAN feel anything with 80% of their body sustaining burns courtesy of a Kornet direct hit on their APC from some ho-hum aparment building window from 5 miles away....
 Quoting: Ashon's Succuelnt Volvo 2241832


clappa
sorry just had to add that in urban combat any one can be your enemy, uniform is not always worn, and its never always going to be a male with you in their sights either.....

you put a good view above have you been in the forces before ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


No.

(But have kicked major booty in the gym combat, though. But those days are over.)

But I do specialize in human behavoir, condition, nature, psychology and hisory (including military-related).

Everyelse is just putting 2 and 2 together. It's amazing how all the "Take Gaza NOW" hyper-mega-tards, both inside Israel and especially outside..... don't have the FIRST clue about how freakin' dangerous & risky such ground-war in Gaza in 2012 would be. None whatsoever.

And that's assuming there would be no "surprises" (such as oneof the underground-launched Zelzal-2 rockets bringing Sarin gas or VX agent to Tel Aviv, Haif, BeerSheva or Jerusalem)
 Quoting: Ashton's Succueltn Volvo 2241832


I wondered that as I am studying psychology history and sociology and my father suffers hard with ptsd and traits that you were mentioning indicated that you have some knowledge on the conflict zone I was apprehensive in thought which is why I asked about military service.

Also says you read a lot too its good seeing a realistic point of view to events around the world rather than the average crap some people come out with lol cheers
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Soldiers spell out critique of Netanyahu as a ‘loser’ for not using ground forces in Gaza

In Facebook pic that goes viral, 16 men arrange their bodies to show frustration at not going into battle

The IDF Spokesman’s office said Thursday it was looking into a photograph circulating widely on Facebook in which 16 IDF soldiers arranged their uniformed bodies on the sand, to spell out the Hebrew words “Bibi loser” — in a deft physical critique of Prime Minister Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu’s failure to send ground troops into Gaza during the just-ended Operation Pillar of Defense.



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 Quoting: Newshunter


LOL, like I said.... "Only in Israel".

Soldiers are soldiers. Officers are officers. Generals are Generals. Prime Minister is Prime Minister.

Never should the 4 be confused about what their ROLE is.

Soldiers, IDF or not, job is to DO or NOT DO what the fuck they are told to. Period. End of story. If Bibi, Barak and Benny Ganz thought it wasn't the right or ideal time to go into Gaza Hell-hole... then I suggest those solider goofballs learn to deal with it. They certainly DON'T get a vote.

Oh and... they should be GRATEFUL that Bibi is sending them home. I know the IDF conscripts have a romantic idea of war, they've done basic training and hey they've played Modern Warfare or BlackOps 5 or whatever -- so they THINK they know what 21st century urban warfare is REALL like....

That is, until they are dropped 100 meters meters outside the planned rally point... their communication equipment is jammed by cheap North Korean gadgets, totally disoriented, can't hear or see shit because of smoke and fire....can't tell Hamas from civilians, can't tell left hand from right hand.... mines, IED, booby-traps, snipers, Kalashnikov-firing teenagers are literally everywhere.... so are intricate systems of Iranian-built tunnels and bunkers.....

the REAL fun starts as Igla-S, Kornet, Metis-M, Milan, RPG-29, RPG-30 and machine guns in every other aparment building window start to do their thang..... Those IDF soldiers would go from "Rambo Chuck Norris" mode to the
ol' "Oh SHEEET, Mommy HELP!!!!!" mode in 3.4 seconds flat!


(All at the same time as the massive Muslim-Marxist propaganda machine worldwide is screaming "Gazacaust, Gazacaust, Gazacaust"; the Egyptian army enters Sinai, Erdogan sends warships... Arab League begins discussion of 1970's style OIL EMBARGO against the West if they dare to intervene or use their veto at the UN Security Council..... not that Barack Hussein Milhaus Obama was going to, anyway.

While Iran sits back and grins like a Cheshire Cat.


I wonder how those same Facebook Soldier would feel about Netanyahu's ground operation decision THEN....assuming they even CAN feel anything with 80% of their body sustaining burns courtesy of a Kornet direct hit on their APC from some ho-hum aparment building window from 5 miles away....
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well said again
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LOL, like I said.... "Only in Israel".

Soldiers are soldiers. Officers are officers. Generals are Generals. Prime Minister is Prime Minister.

Never should the 4 be confused about what their ROLE is.

Soldiers, IDF or not, job is to DO or NOT DO what the fuck they are told to. Period. End of story. If Bibi, Barak and Benny Ganz thought it wasn't the right or ideal time to go into Gaza Hell-hole... then I suggest those solider goofballs learn to deal with it. They certainly DON'T get a vote.

Oh and... they should be GRATEFUL that Bibi is sending them home. I know the IDF conscripts have a romantic idea of war, they've done basic training and hey they've played Modern Warfare or BlackOps 5 or whatever -- so they THINK they know what 21st century urban warfare is REALL like....

That is, until they are dropped 100 meters meters outside the planned rally point... their communication equipment is jammed by cheap North Korean gadgets, totally disoriented, can't hear or see shit because of smoke and fire....can't tell Hamas from civilians, can't tell left hand from right hand.... mines, IED, booby-traps, snipers, Kalashnikov-firing teenagers are literally everywhere.... so are intricate systems of Iranian-built tunnels and bunkers.....

the REAL fun starts as Igla-S, Kornet, Metis-M, Milan, RPG-29, RPG-30 and machine guns in every other aparment building window start to do their thang..... Those IDF soldiers would go from "Rambo Chuck Norris" mode to the
ol' "Oh SHEEET, Mommy HELP!!!!!" mode in 3.4 seconds flat!


(All at the same time as the massive Muslim-Marxist propaganda machine worldwide is screaming "Gazacaust, Gazacaust, Gazacaust"; the Egyptian army enters Sinai, Erdogan sends warships... Arab League begins discussion of 1970's style OIL EMBARGO against the West if they dare to intervene or use their veto at the UN Security Council..... not that Barack Hussein Milhaus Obama was going to, anyway.

While Iran sits back and grins like a Cheshire Cat.


I wonder how those same Facebook Soldier would feel about Netanyahu's ground operation decision THEN....assuming they even CAN feel anything with 80% of their body sustaining burns courtesy of a Kornet direct hit on their APC from some ho-hum aparment building window from 5 miles away....
 Quoting: Ashon's Succuelnt Volvo 2241832


well said again
 Quoting: Swinburnian


That's what I do, Swin.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832

I still can't believe you are under 18 years old and this in touch. It's freaking awesome!
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It's also what I do.






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"Israel warns of tougher operation if truce agreement violated"

An Israeli minister said Thursday that Hamas can expect an aggravated military response in the event that it or other militant groups in the Gaza Strip resume rocket attacks on Israel.

"We will take much tougher steps in the next round, with the understanding of the world," Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor said at a press conference in Jerusalem less than 24 hours after a fragile Egyptian-brokered ceasefire ended the worst cross-border hostilities in years.

Source: [link to news.xinhuanet.com]
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Soldiers spell out critique of Netanyahu as a ‘loser’ for not using ground forces in Gaza

In Facebook pic that goes viral, 16 men arrange their bodies to show frustration at not going into battle

The IDF Spokesman’s office said Thursday it was looking into a photograph circulating widely on Facebook in which 16 IDF soldiers arranged their uniformed bodies on the sand, to spell out the Hebrew words “Bibi loser” — in a deft physical critique of Prime Minister Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu’s failure to send ground troops into Gaza during the just-ended Operation Pillar of Defense.



[link to www.timesofisrael.com]
 Quoting: Newshunter


LOL, like I said.... "Only in Israel".

Soldiers are soldiers. Officers are officers. Generals are Generals. Prime Minister is Prime Minister.

Never should the 4 be confused about what their ROLE is.

Soldiers, IDF or not, job is to DO or NOT DO what the fuck they are told to. Period. End of story. If Bibi, Barak and Benny Ganz thought it wasn't the right or ideal time to go into Gaza Hell-hole... then I suggest those solider goofballs learn to deal with it. They certainly DON'T get a vote.

Oh and... they should be GRATEFUL that Bibi is sending them home. I know the IDF conscripts have a romantic idea of war, they've done basic training and hey they've played Modern Warfare or BlackOps 5 or whatever -- so they THINK they know what 21st century urban warfare is REALL like....

That is, until they are dropped 100 meters meters outside the planned rally point... their communication equipment is jammed by cheap North Korean gadgets, totally disoriented, can't hear or see shit because of smoke and fire....can't tell Hamas from civilians, can't tell left hand from right hand.... mines, IED, booby-traps, snipers, Kalashnikov-firing teenagers are literally everywhere.... so are intricate systems of Iranian-built tunnels and bunkers.....

the REAL fun starts as Igla-S, Kornet, Metis-M, Milan, RPG-29, RPG-30 and machine guns in every other aparment building window start to do their thang..... Those IDF soldiers would go from "Rambo Chuck Norris" mode to the
ol' "Oh SHEEET, Mommy HELP!!!!!" mode in 3.4 seconds flat!


(All at the same time as the massive Muslim-Marxist propaganda machine worldwide is screaming "Gazacaust, Gazacaust, Gazacaust"; the Egyptian army enters Sinai, Erdogan sends warships... Arab League begins discussion of 1970's style OIL EMBARGO against the West if they dare to intervene or use their veto at the UN Security Council..... not that Barack Hussein Milhaus Obama was going to, anyway.

While Iran sits back and grins like a Cheshire Cat.


I wonder how those same Facebook Soldier would feel about Netanyahu's ground operation decision THEN....assuming they even CAN feel anything with 80% of their body sustaining burns courtesy of a Kornet direct hit on their APC from some ho-hum aparment building window from 5 miles away....
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One of the best posts i've ever seen on GLP.
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Israeli security forces have arrested the suspects they allege were behind the bombing attack on a Tel Aviv bus. Authorities claim the attack was planned by Hamas operatives.
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The Zionist PUSSIES keep inventing excuses to justify the fact that they RAN ALWAY from a ground invasion, because they were TOO SCARED of the Palestinian fighters!


s226
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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

Netanyahu is pissed off right now because he feels owned. The problem isn't Hamas only.

As another poster explained though, war is ugly, and deciding not to go in makes since if a ceasefire is possible I have to admit.

Don't gloss over the impact of the week of bombing Israel did. They hurt Hamas badly. They celebrate the decapitation of a LIST of top echelon leaders, and commanders in what they call the "armed wings of Hamas"?

Dude they got absolutely owned, Pwned and ass rammed by precision bombings that STUNNED Hamas in accuracy and they felt creeped out that Israel was able to know SO MUCH about where those people were and when, and blasting them to hell with ease.
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Arsonists burn 300 Palestinian olive trees in Hebron area

Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."

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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

 Quoting: ISO


Do NOT believe that for a second.

IMO, barring the very unlikely use of chemical WMD, or Israeli civilians in Tel Aviv dying by the dozens from Fajr-5 impacts..... Bibi had ZERO intention of going in.

Bibi is not that stupid. He knows that Iran & Abbas's (secretly Obama-orchestrated) UN Status-Upgrade folly... are the 2 main dangers to Israel at the moment.

Everything else is back-burner. Iran knew that and tried to pre-empt & provoke. They *almost* succeeded when that family in Kyriat Malachi decided it was a good idea to stand by the window gawking during a rocket barrage....

But no cigar for you, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. Ooops again.
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Arsonists burn 300 Palestinian olive trees in Hebron area

Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."


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Price tag wars?
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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

 Quoting: ISO


Do NOT believe that for a second.

IMO, barring the very unlikely use of chemical WMD, or Israeli civilians in Tel Aviv dying by the dozens from Fajr-5 impacts..... Bibi had ZERO intention of going in.

Bibi is not that stupid. He knows that Iran & Abbas's (secretly Obama-orchestrated) UN Status-Upgrade folly... are the 2 main dangers to Israel at the moment.

Everything else is back-burner. Iran knew that and tried to pre-empt & provoke. They *almost* succeeded when that family in Kyriat Malachi decided it was a good idea to stand by the window gawking during a rocket barrage....

But no cigar for you, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. Ooops again.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


There were articles where IDF mentioned in interviews that they were told to go in twice, even got to the Gaza gate one time, and told to stand down. There was a real conflict between Obama and Netanyahu. The article is linked a couple pages back, or on the last page.
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Arsonists burn 300 Palestinian olive trees in Hebron area

Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."


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Did Palestinians Destroy Their Own Olive Trees and Then Blame Israel? Settlers Say They Have the Video to Prove it

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The Zionist PUSSIES keep inventing excuses to justify the fact that they RAN ALWAY from a ground invasion, because they were TOO SCARED of the Palestinian fighters!


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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

Netanyahu is pissed off right now because he feels owned. The problem isn't Hamas only.

As another poster explained though, war is ugly, and deciding not to go in makes since if a ceasefire is possible I have to admit.

Don't gloss over the impact of the week of bombing Israel did. They hurt Hamas badly. They celebrate the decapitation of a LIST of top echelon leaders, and commanders in what they call the "armed wings of Hamas"?

Dude they got absolutely owned, Pwned and ass rammed by precision bombings that STUNNED Hamas in accuracy and they felt creeped out that Israel was able to know SO MUCH about where those people were and when, and blasting them to hell with ease.
 Quoting: ISO


Thats bang on mate ...Hamas didnt really ought to be celebrating , they haven't won ...if i was them , i'd be kinda making an escape route or looking for a good hidey-hole for the future..because war will come , its just a matter of what triggers it and when....
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Arsonists burn 300 Palestinian olive trees in Hebron area

Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28272038


Now USUALLY...the so-called Price Tag in broken Hebrew grafitti are done by ARABS themselves as part of their strategy to provoke & defame Jews for PR purposes.

Most recent example include that burned moscque that the apprehended suspects turned out to be Israeli-Arab..... and then of couse just 3 weeks ago Jews actually CAUGHT Arabs destroing their own olive trees in WB on camera and showed on TV.

However... after this war, I wouldn't put it past some Jewish kid idiot to get carried away. Remember, Arab terror is NOT just rocket barrages, shootings and bus-explosion that periodically get all the headlines ---- these brazen c*nts have been STONING Jewish civilians all over Israel and setting fires practically DAILY for years (which BBC and CNN look the other way, of course).

Normally, it's NOT in the Israeli interests to do stupid, silly counter-productive shit like painting graffiti on a mosque or cutting down a few Olive trees. The benefit does NOT justify the risk of scandal and world-wide media exposure. It makes no sense. But it DOES make sense for Arabs to lie about it and together with Israeli leftists/anarchist to harm their own orchards to give them pretext to attack Jews. It's classic propaganda war waged on Israel, both from within and without. Fact.

And when it rarely DOES happen that some Yeshiva doofus does something stupid, Israeli government & mainstream society CONDEMNS the act. Instead of praising like Arab leaders do their own vandals.
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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

 Quoting: ISO


Do NOT believe that for a second.

IMO, barring the very unlikely use of chemical WMD, or Israeli civilians in Tel Aviv dying by the dozens from Fajr-5 impacts..... Bibi had ZERO intention of going in.

Bibi is not that stupid. He knows that Iran & Abbas's (secretly Obama-orchestrated) UN Status-Upgrade folly... are the 2 main dangers to Israel at the moment.

Everything else is back-burner. Iran knew that and tried to pre-empt & provoke. They *almost* succeeded when that family in Kyriat Malachi decided it was a good idea to stand by the window gawking during a rocket barrage....

But no cigar for you, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. Ooops again.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


There were articles where IDF mentioned in interviews that they were told to go in twice, even got to the Gaza gate one time, and told to stand down. There was a real conflict between Obama and Netanyahu. The article is linked a couple pages back, or on the last page.
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Do you believe everything you read?
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Arsonists burn 300 Palestinian olive trees in Hebron area

Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28272038


Now USUALLY...the so-called Price Tag in broken Hebrew grafitti are done by ARABS themselves as part of their strategy to provoke & defame Jews for PR purposes.

Most recent example include that burned moscque that the apprehended suspects turned out to be Israeli-Arab..... and then of couse just 3 weeks ago Jews actually CAUGHT Arabs destroing their own olive trees in WB on camera and showed on TV.

However... after this war, I wouldn't put it past some Jewish kid idiot to get carried away. Remember, Arab terror is NOT just rocket barrages, shootings and bus-explosion that periodically get all the headlines ---- these brazen c*nts have been STONING Jewish civilians all over Israel and setting fires practically DAILY for years (which BBC and CNN look the other way, of course).

Normally, it's NOT in the Israeli interests to do stupid, silly counter-productive shit like painting graffiti on a mosque or cutting down a few Olive trees. The benefit does NOT justify the risk of scandal and world-wide media exposure. It makes no sense. But it DOES make sense for Arabs to lie about it and together with Israeli leftists/anarchist to harm their own orchards to give them pretext to attack Jews. It's classic propaganda war waged on Israel, both from within and without. Fact.

And when it rarely DOES happen that some Yeshiva doofus does something stupid, Israeli government & mainstream society CONDEMNS the act. Instead of praising like Arab leaders do their own vandals.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


you said it. it's worth pointing out that more arabs |(especially within israel) would condemen their own vandals if they weren't so afraid of being targeted as "collaborators."
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Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28272038


Now USUALLY...the so-called Price Tag in broken Hebrew grafitti are done by ARABS themselves as part of their strategy to provoke & defame Jews for PR purposes.

Most recent example include that burned moscque that the apprehended suspects turned out to be Israeli-Arab..... and then of couse just 3 weeks ago Jews actually CAUGHT Arabs destroing their own olive trees in WB on camera and showed on TV.

However... after this war, I wouldn't put it past some Jewish kid idiot to get carried away. Remember, Arab terror is NOT just rocket barrages, shootings and bus-explosion that periodically get all the headlines ---- these brazen c*nts have been STONING Jewish civilians all over Israel and setting fires practically DAILY for years (which BBC and CNN look the other way, of course).

Normally, it's NOT in the Israeli interests to do stupid, silly counter-productive shit like painting graffiti on a mosque or cutting down a few Olive trees. The benefit does NOT justify the risk of scandal and world-wide media exposure. It makes no sense. But it DOES make sense for Arabs to lie about it and together with Israeli leftists/anarchist to harm their own orchards to give them pretext to attack Jews. It's classic propaganda war waged on Israel, both from within and without. Fact.

And when it rarely DOES happen that some Yeshiva doofus does something stupid, Israeli government & mainstream society CONDEMNS the act. Instead of praising like Arab leaders do their own vandals.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


you said it. it's worth pointing out that more arabs |(especially within israel) would condemen their own vandals if they weren't so afraid of being targeted as "collaborators."
 Quoting: Swinburnian


You know that arguement may work in Gaza and even West Bank.... but plenty Israeli-Arabs do things that earn them scorn among their own community. How hard is it to make (even a watered-down) condemnation? Please, make excuses if you want, but I think it's ridiculous.

Truth is: Israeli-Arabs like Tibi and that bitch aboard Mavi Marmara want to have their cake and eat it too: they want to enjoy rights, privileges & protections afforded to them by the Jews... and STILL secretly hate the "Jew dogs" & dream of eventually throwing them into the sea.
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Sorry, in some way its even worse than Hamas, who at least are HONEST about their true goals & nature.
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Arsonists burn 300 Palestinian olive trees in Hebron area

Arsonists burned some 300 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in an area South-West of Hebron in a suspected price tag attack.

Police scanned the area and found an inscription that reads "regards from Beersheba and Tel Aviv."


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28272038


Now USUALLY...the so-called Price Tag in broken Hebrew grafitti are done by ARABS themselves as part of their strategy to provoke & defame Jews for PR purposes.

Most recent example include that burned moscque that the apprehended suspects turned out to be Israeli-Arab..... and then of couse just 3 weeks ago Jews actually CAUGHT Arabs destroing their own olive trees in WB on camera and showed on TV.

However... after this war, I wouldn't put it past some Jewish kid idiot to get carried away. Remember, Arab terror is NOT just rocket barrages, shootings and bus-explosion that periodically get all the headlines ---- these brazen c*nts have been STONING Jewish civilians all over Israel and setting fires practically DAILY for years (which BBC and CNN look the other way, of course).

Normally, it's NOT in the Israeli interests to do stupid, silly counter-productive shit like painting graffiti on a mosque or cutting down a few Olive trees. The benefit does NOT justify the risk of scandal and world-wide media exposure. It makes no sense. But it DOES make sense for Arabs to lie about it and together with Israeli leftists/anarchist to harm their own orchards to give them pretext to attack Jews. It's classic propaganda war waged on Israel, both from within and without. Fact.

And when it rarely DOES happen that some Yeshiva doofus does something stupid, Israeli government & mainstream society CONDEMNS the act. Instead of praising like Arab leaders do their own vandals.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


you said it. it's worth pointing out that more arabs |(especially within israel) would condemen their own vandals if they weren't so afraid of being targeted as "collaborators."
 Quoting: Swinburnian


You know that arguement may work in Gaza and even West Bank.... but plenty Israeli-Arabs do things that earn them scorn among their own community. How hard is it to make (even a watered-down) condemnation?
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good point -- i had doubts about my own post shortly after i posted it. "knee-jerk liberal".
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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

 Quoting: ISO


Do NOT believe that for a second.

IMO, barring the very unlikely use of chemical WMD, or Israeli civilians in Tel Aviv dying by the dozens from Fajr-5 impacts..... Bibi had ZERO intention of going in.

Bibi is not that stupid. He knows that Iran & Abbas's (secretly Obama-orchestrated) UN Status-Upgrade folly... are the 2 main dangers to Israel at the moment.

Everything else is back-burner. Iran knew that and tried to pre-empt & provoke. They *almost* succeeded when that family in Kyriat Malachi decided it was a good idea to stand by the window gawking during a rocket barrage....

But no cigar for you, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. Ooops again.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


Bibi is scared of the antichrist? Or is Bibi playing the antichrist? Because when Hamas attacks again like they have been then the antichrist and the world will be blamed for failing to control their Muslim factions. The antichrist will be looked upon as either inept or an enemy of Israel.
There are things going on right now behind closed doors that are supernatural.
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Now USUALLY...the so-called Price Tag in broken Hebrew grafitti are done by ARABS themselves as part of their strategy to provoke & defame Jews for PR purposes.

Most recent example include that burned moscque that the apprehended suspects turned out to be Israeli-Arab..... and then of couse just 3 weeks ago Jews actually CAUGHT Arabs destroing their own olive trees in WB on camera and showed on TV.

However... after this war, I wouldn't put it past some Jewish kid idiot to get carried away. Remember, Arab terror is NOT just rocket barrages, shootings and bus-explosion that periodically get all the headlines ---- these brazen c*nts have been STONING Jewish civilians all over Israel and setting fires practically DAILY for years (which BBC and CNN look the other way, of course).

Normally, it's NOT in the Israeli interests to do stupid, silly counter-productive shit like painting graffiti on a mosque or cutting down a few Olive trees. The benefit does NOT justify the risk of scandal and world-wide media exposure. It makes no sense. But it DOES make sense for Arabs to lie about it and together with Israeli leftists/anarchist to harm their own orchards to give them pretext to attack Jews. It's classic propaganda war waged on Israel, both from within and without. Fact.

And when it rarely DOES happen that some Yeshiva doofus does something stupid, Israeli government & mainstream society CONDEMNS the act. Instead of praising like Arab leaders do their own vandals.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


you said it. it's worth pointing out that more arabs |(especially within israel) would condemen their own vandals if they weren't so afraid of being targeted as "collaborators."
 Quoting: Swinburnian


You know that arguement may work in Gaza and even West Bank.... but plenty Israeli-Arabs do things that earn them scorn among their own community. How hard is it to make (even a watered-down) condemnation?
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good point -- i had doubts about my own post shortly after i posted it. "knee-jerk liberal".
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Speaking of which... you know, being Liberal shouldn't have to be synonymous with being "ignorant, naive, coward, narciissistis poseur or downright treasonous douche" --- which is what the decadent neo-Liberalism is all about apparently.

Most of my friends now are Liberals and "Libertarian" poseurs. I have strong leanings that way myself at times that I have to repress, truth be told, So I know the mindset inside-out.

To my mind, a REAL, traditional Liberal is extremely essential to the health & progress of Advanced Modern Civiliazation and even the best religous figures were Liberals (including Jesus).

However, that Liberal has been swept aside & shouted down by the venal, manipulative C*NT that cleverlyt hides beind Orwellian double-speak. Fuck em.
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this psy op thread is as real as this:
fucking mods and agents have tired fingers after refreshing 1 million times.


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hey girlfriend
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you said it. it's worth pointing out that more arabs |(especially within israel) would condemen their own vandals if they weren't so afraid of being targeted as "collaborators."
 Quoting: Swinburnian


You know that arguement may work in Gaza and even West Bank.... but plenty Israeli-Arabs do things that earn them scorn among their own community. How hard is it to make (even a watered-down) condemnation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2241832


good point -- i had doubts about my own post shortly after i posted it. "knee-jerk liberal".
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Speaking of which... you know, being Liberal shouldn't have to be synonymous with being "ignorant, naive, coward, narciissistis poseur or downright treasonous douche" --- which is what the decadent neo-Liberalism is all about apparently.

Most of my friends now are Liberals and "Libertarian" poseurs. I have strong leanings that way myself at times that I have to repress, truth be told, So I know the mindset inside-out.

To my mind, a REAL, traditional Liberal is extremely essential to the health & progress of Advanced Modern Civiliazation and even the best religous figures were Liberals (including Jesus).

However, that Liberal has been swept aside & shouted down by the venal, manipulative C*NT that cleverlyt hides beind Orwellian double-speak. Fuck em.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


PS. Obviously it's the latter kind of pseudo-Liberal.... who hates Israel with a passion, and who enables the rise & spread of the poison that is Radical Islam.

Wheras you Swin appear to be the traditional, "good", neceassery even, kind of Liberal. So you don't have to apologize for it. I understand.
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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

 Quoting: ISO


Do NOT believe that for a second.

IMO, barring the very unlikely use of chemical WMD, or Israeli civilians in Tel Aviv dying by the dozens from Fajr-5 impacts..... Bibi had ZERO intention of going in.

Bibi is not that stupid. He knows that Iran & Abbas's (secretly Obama-orchestrated) UN Status-Upgrade folly... are the 2 main dangers to Israel at the moment.

Everything else is back-burner. Iran knew that and tried to pre-empt & provoke. They *almost* succeeded when that family in Kyriat Malachi decided it was a good idea to stand by the window gawking during a rocket barrage....

But no cigar for you, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. Ooops again.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


Bibi is scared of the antichrist? Or is Bibi playing the antichrist? Because when Hamas attacks again like they have been then the antichrist and the world will be blamed for failing to control their Muslim factions. The antichrist will be looked upon as either inept or an enemy of Israel.
There are things going on right now behind closed doors that are supernatural.
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Sadly, unlike most people on GLP/Internet... I DON'T have a direct phone-line to the supernatural.

Sorry to disappoint.

As they say in the 'hood: "Render unto caesar's that which is caesar's -- and unto the insane that which is conspiratorial"
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Is it "The Incredible Shrinking Thread" or is someone working behind the scenes to make sure that DOOM strikes on page 1111?
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As they say in the 'hood: "Render unto caesar's that which is caesar's -- and unto the insane that which is conspiratorial"
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This sounds exactly what a dictator would say. That and "You are either with us or against us".
Nothing to see here but swamp gas reflecting off of Venus... move along!
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Actually they didn't. Netanyahu gave the order to go in twice, and both times Obama forced Netanyahu to stop by threatening to cut off military aid to Israel.

 Quoting: ISO


Do NOT believe that for a second.

IMO, barring the very unlikely use of chemical WMD, or Israeli civilians in Tel Aviv dying by the dozens from Fajr-5 impacts..... Bibi had ZERO intention of going in.

Bibi is not that stupid. He knows that Iran & Abbas's (secretly Obama-orchestrated) UN Status-Upgrade folly... are the 2 main dangers to Israel at the moment.

Everything else is back-burner. Iran knew that and tried to pre-empt & provoke. They *almost* succeeded when that family in Kyriat Malachi decided it was a good idea to stand by the window gawking during a rocket barrage....

But no cigar for you, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi. Ooops again.
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


Bibi is scared of the antichrist? Or is Bibi playing the antichrist? Because when Hamas attacks again like they have been then the antichrist and the world will be blamed for failing to control their Muslim factions. The antichrist will be looked upon as either inept or an enemy of Israel.
There are things going on right now behind closed doors that are supernatural.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27984249


Sadly, unlike most people on GLP/Internet... I DON'T have a direct phone-line to the supernatural.

Sorry to disappoint.

As they say in the 'hood: "Render unto caesar's that which is caesar's -- and unto the insane that which is conspiratorial"
 Quoting: Ashton's Succulent Volvo 2241832


Hey, if it helps, I did see the Lars von Trier movie called "Anti-Christ".

It did NOT look like Bibi Netanyahu OR Barack Obama, however.

The opening scene is well done technically/artistically. Of course it's also absolutely horrific.

Didn't want to see Willem Dafoe ejaculate blood, either. And when Charlotte Gainsbourg was about to cut her own clitoris off with a pair of rusty scissors... No thanks.






(Andrei Tarkovsky, one of my all-time favorite foreign directors, in whose memory the "Anti-Christ" is ostensibly dedicated... would be rolling in his grave at that indulgent, expoloitative art-house porn by Von Trier, but whatever)


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