"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

now???

yeh I herd there was a shooting incident earlier when 1 died and 19 were injured I saw it on an AP site on my phone earlier

yes

yes, now

waiting for more news

second incident??

the incident from earlier :

On Friday, hundreds of Palestinians approached Israel's border fence in several locations in southern Gaza.

In the past, Israel's military barred Palestinians from getting close to the fence, and soldiers routinely opened fire on violators to enforce a 300-meter-wide no-go zone meant to prevent infiltrations into Israel.

Since the cease-fire, growing numbers of Gazans have entered the no-go zone, testing expectations that such restrictions would now be lifted.

In one incident captured by Associated Press video, several dozen Palestinians, most of them young men, approached the fence, coming close to a group of Israeli soldiers standing on the other side.

Some Palestinians briefly talked to the soldiers, while others appeared to be taunting them with chants of "God is Great" and "Morsi, Morsi," in praise of Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, whose mediation led to the truce.

At one point, a soldier shouted in Hebrew, "Go there, before I shoot you," and pointed away from the fence, toward Gaza. The soldier then dropped to one knee, assuming a firing position. Eventually, a burst of automatic fire was heard, but it was not clear whether any of the casualties were from this incident.

Most of those approaching the fence were young men, but the crowds also included farmers hoping they could once again farm lands in the buffer zone. Speaking by phone from the buffer zone, 19-year-old Ali Abu Taimah said he and his father were checking three acres of family land that have been fallow for several years.

"When we go to our land, we are telling the occupation (Israel) that we are not afraid at all," he said.

Gaza health official Ashraf al-Kidra said a 20-year-old man was killed and 19 people were wounded by Israeli fire near the border.

Israel's military said roughly 300 Palestinians approached the security fence at several locations in southern Gaza, tried to damage it and cross into Israel. Soldiers fired warning shots in the air to distance the Palestinians from the fence, but after they refused to move back, troops fired at their legs, the military said. It also said a Palestinian infiltrated into Israel in the course of the unrest, but he was returned to Gaza.

[link to news.yahoo.com]

it's protests in response to what happened earlier

I knew this thread wouldn't disappear. Too much going on, now with the developments with Morsi, things should continue to heat up.

p.s. I don't see many threads on Syria right now. Nor a whole lot of MSM coverage. Like it's been shoved to the side for the moment, even though that battle still rages.

you just dont have clue about muslims, you fukin uneducated #"%$£...

God said in Quran that in a war, those who turn their back (fleeing) on the enemy have the hell fire for retribution.

so for muslims the choice is quite simple, either you go fight till death, or you stay home, but you dont flee at any cost while you decided to go for fight.

and who more than muslims are attached to their religion ?
those muslims who choose to go to war seek either for victory (glory for Islam) either for death in fight (martyrdom), both of them will give them great reward from God.

that is why a true muslim army is the most dangerous of all in the world, even when they fight with mere stones, they wont stop fighting until they lie on the ground dead and cold.
Talk about fanatism. You just cant measure the link between muslims and God. Muslims know what is to come after death, not their enemies. Talk about confidence.

even if you are to walk from the end of the earth to join a muslim army battling at the other side of the earth, if you are killed on your way by an enemy, you have martyrdom... Talk about how easy it is to get the highest reward from God.

you just cant test them, muslims dont actually rule the world for a technological reason...nothing else.

but when all nations technology will be reduced to stone age, and that will occur for sure according Islamic prophecies... then you better dont be an enemy of Islam at that time

all that to say that intimidation doesnt fukin work at all on what you call a "fanatic" aka a muslim soldier !

Tunnel collapses in Rafah, 2 trapped, rescue crews on site.

No, more than one. Confirmed on dutch tv also.

first incident yes, second not see.

you dont get the idea,

from an islamic point of view, seeking UN recognition is same as seeking Satan recognition...

they dont seek recognition from the UN but from the people around the world. UN (and his military wing NATO) is just another lowlife organisation, made of a bunch of atheists leaders.

how the hell a religious people would ask some atheists for recognition lol...

Brainwashed Islamic zombies aren't "the most dangerous in the world". Just the easiest manipulated and deceived. The average Muslim would remain sedate, if not prodded by radicals (not necessarily Muslim) who love useful tools.

However if true; are they not seeking recognition from the UN ?

Yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah...

At the end of the day, fuck them, fuck allah, fuck mohammed, fuck jihad and fuck halal

All these people wanna do is riot and destroy and kill.

If they're not doing it to other people, then they're doing it to themselves.

40,000 DEAD in Syria. WTF???

Fuck Islam

the "average" muslim, the kind of muslims westerners like, half muslim, half atheist, right ?

muslims are muslims. matches are matches. when they are together, only one match taking initiative, the leader, is needed to fire all other matches. They all follow the same Book. Only one of them is needed to lead them all.

there is no such bullshit "moderate" or "fanatic" muslims the same way there is no such good or bad bacteria in the human body.
when the equilibrium is broken for any reason, then in both cases, what was stable (moderate/good) will become unstable (fanatic/bad).

you guys just foolishly play on words with the fukin moronic sterotypes "moderate" , "radical" etc etc.
Quran doesnt teach to be moderate or radical, it teaches to protect and defend yourself, your family and your brothers in faith, may they be muslims, christians or jews agaisnt any ennemy opressing them.

just a way to get "attention" of the world, nothing else.

see all the protests around the world for gaza ? now you get their goal.

AJELive #Syria calls plans by #Turkey to site Patriot missilles on the border "a new act of provocation" aje.me/R5qgaR

your welcome to have your view but consider devil advocates in this and because are culture and ethics are different doesn't make us any better or different look at the state of our economies for example and the way its handled the way occupy protests ended for example remember we are exposed one side of the coin.

Last Edited by Anderson_G on 11/23/2012 10:40 AM

When I consider Islam, I consider all the writings and opinions I have read. I consider the history of the tribes of Mohammeds' time, and their cult practices. I consider the actions of those Muslims around me, compared to what is written in the Quran. I consider what the mullahs and the clerics say. I pay attention.

The Quran is the most confused mishmash of other peoples' ideologies ever thrown into one book. It goes from loving the Jews and Christians at the beginning, to hating everyone opposed to Islam at the end. Each surah disintegrates from its supposed topic to the rantings of a confused madman.
Some of us look at things for what they are, not the way some Ayatollah asshole wants you to believe.

I do consider everything. Of course no one is perfect, but I'm sorry, our culture IS different and it IS better. There's just no getting around that. I was mainly responding to this threatening bullshit of "muslim soldier" this and "better not be an enemy of islam" that. It's fucking sickening already.

How so?

Really? Like what?

Proves absolutely nothing. Your superficial cryptic little comments are simply meaningless. And frankly, I couldn't care less what you think.

You're gonna excuse me of something, then lets see the proof. Again...bullshit. As always, Mr Coward.

Last Edited by Swearengen on 11/23/2012 10:58 AM

Well, I am shooting the shit on an internet forum. But you wanna beat around the bush and give me nothing that's of any substance.

and "fuck you"



and "rape your womans" you forgot.



oh wait, are you talking about the western puppet leaders of arab countries ?
for sure there is to wonder why they riot and destroy and kill when western atheists wish to rotten the apple



oh wait ! you gonna drop a tear for them, right ? and will pray for their souls, right ?
you actually give a damn to those dead arabs, oh well indeed i dont count the dead imported westerners involved in that conflict.

arab springs, man made conflict by westerners to destabilise middle east...and there is still some braindeads daring to spit such bullshit "All these people wanna do is riot and destroy and kill."
yeah for sure, they should let those westerners mess up with them and overthrow them so they get puppet leaders.

Blood is actually shed in syria, and blood was not shed to such extremes before westerners got involved and "recognised" CNS, funny coincidence right monkey meat ?
they can recognize CNS in 1 day but not palestinians in 60 years, funny coincidence monkey meat right ?



Yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah...