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Folks, I have to go for a while.

If the nasty little troll shows back up, just report his replies & one of the other mods will look into it.

As you all know, it is the same IP hopping little creep. Do not let him derail you -- just ignore him.

I will check in when I return to see if all is safe, sane & well for the genuine posters.

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Hey guys !

Nice to see this thread is still alive !
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Hey Sub!

cheers
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ask yourself this sub, has he ever kept any promises with them or anyone else for that? Only promises he keeps are the ones he makes to the loonies like himself.
 Quoting: godzilla85


UNFORTUNATELY for Israel, you're right GZ85 ! But a part of me really wants to believe he will keep his promise ! I know it's probably just wishful thinking...

I really hope Obama won't forsaken Israel !
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Hey guys !

Nice to see this thread is still alive !
 Quoting: subzero86


Hey Sub!

cheers
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Hey Monk !

hi
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ask yourself this sub, has he ever kept any promises with them or anyone else for that? Only promises he keeps are the ones he makes to the loonies like himself.
 Quoting: godzilla85


UNFORTUNATELY for Israel, you're right GZ85 ! But a part of me really wants to believe he will keep his promise ! I know it's probably just wishful thinking...

I really hope Obama won't forsaken Israel !
 Quoting: subzero86


I don't share your optimism unfortunately.
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This thread is dead without the trolls. Just kidding LJS! =)
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The Palestinians will be recognized at the U.N. on November 29th.

Israel has promised a SEVERE response to all of this.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


that was certainly the most usefull info i read the last 300 pages hf

ok, so that is the doom coming, i wondered what would happen

[link to img15.hostingpics.net]

and sooo it begins damned
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ask yourself this sub, has he ever kept any promises with them or anyone else for that? Only promises he keeps are the ones he makes to the loonies like himself.
 Quoting: godzilla85


UNFORTUNATELY for Israel, you're right GZ85 ! But a part of me really wants to believe he will keep his promise ! I know it's probably just wishful thinking...

I really hope Obama won't forsaken Israel !
 Quoting: subzero86


I don't share your optimism unfortunately.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Obama is the catalyst for the final mideast war. Obama is counting on Israel losing. We will see.
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Hamas polices Gaza border after IDF fire kills man by fence.

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 Quoting: subzero86


Thanks for the update.
Tension seems to be getting hotter on the border.
 Quoting: reaperz73


It will be interesting to see if Obama keeps his supposed promise to BiBi and puts US troops on the Sinai border to stop smuggling of Iranian weapons to Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


I know I don't trust him, so you can bet your last dollar that Bibi knows the score.

Most (at least most here now) know that this cease fire has been engineered to show Israel's restraint and willingness to negotiate, while at the same time create yet another opportunity for the world at large to see the aggression truly coming from the other side of the fence (literally).

Consider this as well; at this point in history, Israel knows full well it has been left on it's own - that writing has been chiseled onto the wall. With this understanding, don't discount the possibilities that again appeasing Washington (BO) will also ultimately reveal that even though Israel capitulates with the desires of Washington under the guise of more and more promises, Washington cannot be trusted from an Israeli standpoint any more than Hamas & Co.

As this comes to fruition, Israel will actually have a much more firm footing to do whatever they deem necessary to ensure their own safety and survival.

The attention span for many has been exceeded during this cease fire time frame. This is the by-product of a society so steeped with instant gratification, that if something isn't "right now", then it has either failed or the operation is over in entirety. This is far from the truth, and this time is being used for many preparations, both politically and logistically, on more than one front, while also crating an environment where true supporters of Israel (as Israel - not some concocted combined area) as well as their true enemies are all ultimately revealed.

This is the beginning of separating the wheat from the chaff.

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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Hamas polices Gaza border after IDF fire kills man by fence.

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 Quoting: subzero86


Thanks for the update.
Tension seems to be getting hotter on the border.
 Quoting: reaperz73


It will be interesting to see if Obama keeps his supposed promise to BiBi and puts US troops on the Sinai border to stop smuggling of Iranian weapons to Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


This whole thing from the beginning has been to frame Iran. Why can't anybody see that?
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"frame Iran"? Huh? Iran has admitted to financing Hamas as well as to sending arms & the technology to build long range rockets on site. "suckered them into admitting something they'd denied for years"? Sure. "framed"? Nah, not sure how anyone can see it that way.
Wake up & smell reality.
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The Palestinians will be recognized at the U.N. on November 29th.

Israel has promised a SEVERE response to all of this.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


that was certainly the most usefull info i read the last 300 pages hf

ok, so that is the doom coming, i wondered what would happen

[link to img15.hostingpics.net]

and sooo it begins damned
 Quoting: Zef


CORRECT. But it will not be pretty for anybody. You think if Israel is pushed to extermination of their entire country that they wont nuke their neighbors? They would have to.
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The Palestinians will be recognized at the U.N. on November 29th.

Israel has promised a SEVERE response to all of this.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


that was certainly the most usefull info i read the last 300 pages hf

ok, so that is the doom coming, i wondered what would happen

[link to img15.hostingpics.net]

and sooo it begins damned
 Quoting: Zef


CORRECT. But it will not be pretty for anybody. You think if Israel is pushed to extermination of their entire country that they wont nuke their neighbors? They would have to.
 Quoting: ISO


Sadly, it won't be just "their neighbors".
Wake up & smell reality.
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If Palestine is recognized as a state at the UN and Morsi is impeached in Egypt...it's pretty much game over !

If the US doesn't veto the Palestinian bid I think it clearly shows which side Obummer is on and it's safe to say Israel will be on its own ! verysad
 Quoting: subzero86


You know what, I think I've had just about enough of this hand-wringing & whining.

1) Israel is full of Jews and Jews, especially Ashkenazi ones, are supposed to be awesome, smart and creative.

2) Israel, Mossad and Co. had to have known who and what Barry Hussenovich Soetoro The First was even before his election in 2008. And if by some mindboggling reason, they didn't do their homework THEN... then they absolutely should have known it by NOW.

3) And for all the Obama hostility to Israel, mostly of covert & sneaky variety as Obama is too smart to have confronted Israel publically --- for instance, why do you think Erdogan all of the sudden started to accuse Israel of being terrorist-state and sent provocative Flotilla? --- what with him being Obama's best chum.....why do you think suddenly Muslim Brotherhood is on the march, etc.

4) Well, for all the Obama's Anti-Israeli background & clever backstage manipulations.... and considering that Romney was supposed to be Bibi's good friend...... Mossad seems to have done absolutely NOTHING to sabotage Obama's re-election.

*Nothing on Benghazi-gate.
*Nothing on Obama's Chicago gay bath-house hijinks.
*Nothing on Obama's cocain using & possibly dealing.
*Nothing on that video tape that LA Times was allegedly suppressing back in 2008.
*Nothing on fake BC
*Nothing on Obama's muslim faith
*Nothing on Obama's college records, his alleged lies about being a foreign student, the dubious Saudi Arabia characters who bank-rolled his education....

Nothing. Mossad did nothing. It was all there. Obama barely won the re-election as it is, probably with George Soros vote-flipping in Spain; so unconvering even ONE of the aformentioned scandals, would have ruined Obama.

5) After dodging a UN bullet in 2011, Israel HAD to have known that the only reason it didn't work was because Obama & Abbas were saving the best for last --- that is, for AFTER Obama's November 2012 Elections. Netanyahu had ample time to prepare for that eventuality.

6) Actually, Israel and their supposed top-notch intelligence operators, International Law experts, and Propaganda meisters... should have been ALL preparing for this contingency/eventuality for years, nay for DECADES. With not just Plan A in place, but also plan B, C, D, E, F, well sorry I only know the alphabet until the letter F, but you get the idea

7) I already posited in my 18-point post a few days back, that in my opinion one of the biggest reasons Netanyuahu cut short the Operation "Amud Anan" was because of the Abu Mazen's impending UN Status-Upgrade application. Which in turn would allow PA to sue Israel for WAR CRIMES in Hage ----> not matter how inherently ridiculous & frivilous such charges may be, do NOT expect the (massively Saudi/Qatar-bribed) European "Progressives" to give Israel a fair chance.

8) It must be shown beyond reasonable doubt and using 21st century media tools that Paletine does NOT even begin to meet the necessary criteria for Statehood if only because:

a) One of the main conditions for being accepted into the family of nations is that the applying entity MUST be both economically self-sufficient and, even more importanly, be peaceful & peace-seeking. PA absolutely fails on both accounts. The terror, the terror incitement & vile teaching of children to hate & kill the Jews is rampant in "Palestine". Easily provable and demonstratable.

b) Both Hamas AND the secular PLO founding Charters clearly deny both Jewish rights & existence. Their leaders have echoed that sentiment over the years, both in Arabic and in English. Even the darling of the West, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, Mr. Moderate Himself... is nothing but a Holocaust-Denier, a bank-roller of the 1972 Munich Massacre. Hell, as recently as this year, he said that Jews have no history in Jerusalem! In Jerusalem!

c) Abbas doesn't even represent the Palestinian people becaue his Presidential term expired 3 years ago. And his has zero authority in Gaza.

d) Again, PA should be disqualified if only because its military wing Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade is classified as a terrorist organization --- with history of dozens of bombings, shootings and other terror activity.

e) One of the main condition for Statehood is ability to uphold agreements & treaties over time. And a unilateral application to the UN is a gross violation of the Oslo Accords -- both in letter & spirit. And it's not as if Abbas has no peace partner --- in fact, Israel has been practically begging Abbas to come to the negotiation table for years. Likewise Israel is on record as having made sweeping concessions in 2000 with Ehud Barak and 2008 with Ehud Olemert. So the rejectionism & intransigence has clearly been the greater Palestinian strategy (especially with Obama pulling the strings behind the scenes)

f) San Remo, Balfour Declaration, the whole League of Nation decision on Jewish homeland being ENSHRINED into the Founding Charter of its successor, the UN. That guarantees Israel a much bigger territory. An undeniable fact that cannot be over-written by the UN General Assembly chockfull of banana-republics & dictators. Furthermore, even the UNSC Resolution 242 authored by Eugene Rostow stipilates that the final status of the territories can only be decided through BI-LATERAL agreement. See: the editorial Eugene Rostow wrote in which he basically upholds Israel's righrs, if not outright sides with Israel.

If nothing else, all these alleged Jewish & Israeli geniuses, experts and officials should try to exert much more pressure on the overtly hostile Abbas. For instance, might want to let Abbas know that he and his corrupt sons not only will be cut off financially, Israel will also no longer protect him from Hamas asssassination squads -- remember Hamas is on record as being AGAINST this state application because it, if only indirectly, recognizes the Jewish state, LOL.......

Might want to tell Obama that if he doesn't stop Abbas, that Jewish settlement blocks, most of Area C and the Jordan Valley will be annexed (the latter is all the more important especially now that Jordan is at risk falling into Muslim Brotherhood hands)

So knowing all **THAT**.... having all that potential leverage..... if a week from now Bibi, Barak and Lieberman & their cadre of advisers & diplomats STILL get caught with their pants down... then they have NOONE to blame but themselves.
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just wanted to say you are well knowledgeable cheers
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Just the basics, playa.

Let's see if Bibi is the Zionist he always claimed he was, or if he is just another Israeli sell-out coward in the mold of Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert, Tsipi Livni, Shelley Yachimovich, Yossi Beilin, Ben-Ami, Ben-Eliezer, Shaul Mofaz, Yair Lapid, Zahava Gallion, et al.

Bibi, ball's on your court....Your Zionist father's and heroic brother's Ghosts are watching closely.

 Quoting: ASV 28337851


For those who don't know November 29 apparently is special date to Arabs because of 1947.

They aleady have Nakba Day. They have similar-sounding but even more bizarra, Naksa Day. Then the various Day's of Rage. Day's of Resistance. Day's of Struttin'-like-a-Dandy-with-an-Orange-Beard (true story: coloring one's beard Orange is actually very fashionable in Gaza, plus quite a few Arabs have natural orange beards, as weird as it sounds)
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Hamas polices Gaza border after IDF fire kills man by fence.

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 Quoting: subzero86


Thanks for the update.
Tension seems to be getting hotter on the border.
 Quoting: reaperz73


It will be interesting to see if Obama keeps his supposed promise to BiBi and puts US troops on the Sinai border to stop smuggling of Iranian weapons to Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


I know I don't trust him, so you can bet your last dollar that Bibi knows the score.

Most (at least most here now) know that this cease fire has been engineered to show Israel's restraint and willingness to negotiate, while at the same time create yet another opportunity for the world at large to see the aggression truly coming from the other side of the fence (literally).

Consider this as well; at this point in history, Israel knows full well it has been left on it's own - that writing has been chiseled onto the wall. With this understanding, don't discount the possibilities that again appeasing Washington (BO) will also ultimately reveal that even though Israel capitulates with the desires of Washington under the guise of more and more promises, Washington cannot be trusted from an Israeli standpoint any more than Hamas & Co.

As this comes to fruition, Israel will actually have a much more firm footing to do whatever they deem necessary to ensure their own safety and survival.

The attention span for many has been exceeded during this cease fire time frame. This is the by-product of a society so steeped with instant gratification, that if something isn't "right now", then it has either failed or the operation is over in entirety. This is far from the truth, and this time is being used for many preparations, both politically and logistically, on more than one front, while also crating an environment where true supporters of Israel (as Israel - not some concocted combined area) as well as their true enemies are all ultimately revealed.

This is the beginning of separating the wheat from the chaff.
 Quoting: ClydeX


What do you suppose will happen if Israel is attacked by multiple Muslim states in unison? Israel would obviously respond viciously in the beginning. What would Obama do? Threaten to join the Muslims against Israel and bomb Israel from subs and carriers?Seems to me that Obama expects Israel to accept extermination or risk the US attacking Israel. This power broker thing Obama is doing, coupled with Obama's Muslim sympathies spells the end of Israel. If Israel submits to Obama they will be destroyed. They will also be destroyed if they don't. How does Israel deal with this?
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Update from israelnationalnews.com

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High Alert in Judea, Samaria
The IDF is on alert in Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem due to threats of another terrorist attack.

On Thursday night the IDF conducted an arrest operation, detaining 28 Palestinian Authority residents suspected of involvement in terrorism.

The night before, 55 suspects were arrested, some of them PA members of parliament affiliated with Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Both terrorist groups, which call openly for Israel’s destruction, are recognized as political parties in the PA.
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I'm missing my daily dose of doom... huffy
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I'm missing my daily dose of doom... huffy
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Patience is a virtue!
Shouldn't be too long now.
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The Palestinians will be recognized at the U.N. on November 29th.

Israel has promised a SEVERE response to all of this.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


that was certainly the most usefull info i read the last 300 pages hf

ok, so that is the doom coming, i wondered what would happen

[link to img15.hostingpics.net]

and sooo it begins damned
 Quoting: Zef


CORRECT. But it will not be pretty for anybody. You think if Israel is pushed to extermination of their entire country that they wont nuke their neighbors? They would have to.
 Quoting: ISO


i just try to figure how AntiChrist will erase arab presence from israel/palestine and surroundings, expand israel borders (from nile to euphrate) get his hands on jerusalem and rebuild Salomon temple.

israel is not yet subjected to extermination, it will happen only when Jesus returns. Until then Israel will rule the world with the AC as their leader.

im trying to figure out the puzzle pieces chuckle
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The Palestinians will be recognized at the U.N. on November 29th.

Israel has promised a SEVERE response to all of this.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


that was certainly the most usefull info i read the last 300 pages hf

ok, so that is the doom coming, i wondered what would happen

[link to img15.hostingpics.net]

and sooo it begins damned
 Quoting: Zef


CORRECT. But it will not be pretty for anybody. You think if Israel is pushed to extermination of their entire country that they wont nuke their neighbors? They would have to.
 Quoting: ISO


i just try to figure how AntiChrist will erase arab presence from israel/palestine and surroundings, expand israel borders (from nile to euphrate) get his hands on jerusalem and rebuild Salomon temple.

israel is not yet subjected to extermination, it will happen only when Jesus returns. Until then Israel will rule the world with the AC as their leader.

im trying to figure out the puzzle pieces chuckle
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that sounds exactly like our moshiach!
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...


Thanks for the update.
Tension seems to be getting hotter on the border.
 Quoting: reaperz73


It will be interesting to see if Obama keeps his supposed promise to BiBi and puts US troops on the Sinai border to stop smuggling of Iranian weapons to Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


I know I don't trust him, so you can bet your last dollar that Bibi knows the score.

Most (at least most here now) know that this cease fire has been engineered to show Israel's restraint and willingness to negotiate, while at the same time create yet another opportunity for the world at large to see the aggression truly coming from the other side of the fence (literally).

Consider this as well; at this point in history, Israel knows full well it has been left on it's own - that writing has been chiseled onto the wall. With this understanding, don't discount the possibilities that again appeasing Washington (BO) will also ultimately reveal that even though Israel capitulates with the desires of Washington under the guise of more and more promises, Washington cannot be trusted from an Israeli standpoint any more than Hamas & Co.

As this comes to fruition, Israel will actually have a much more firm footing to do whatever they deem necessary to ensure their own safety and survival.

The attention span for many has been exceeded during this cease fire time frame. This is the by-product of a society so steeped with instant gratification, that if something isn't "right now", then it has either failed or the operation is over in entirety. This is far from the truth, and this time is being used for many preparations, both politically and logistically, on more than one front, while also crating an environment where true supporters of Israel (as Israel - not some concocted combined area) as well as their true enemies are all ultimately revealed.

This is the beginning of separating the wheat from the chaff.
 Quoting: ClydeX


What do you suppose will happen if Israel is attacked by multiple Muslim states in unison? Israel would obviously respond viciously in the beginning. What would Obama do? Threaten to join the Muslims against Israel and bomb Israel from subs and carriers?Seems to me that Obama expects Israel to accept extermination or risk the US attacking Israel. This power broker thing Obama is doing, coupled with Obama's Muslim sympathies spells the end of Israel. If Israel submits to Obama they will be destroyed. They will also be destroyed if they don't. How does Israel deal with this?
 Quoting: ISO


Part of this last week's focus was to begin addressing that very threat. An opportunity for Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc., all to raise their heads, even if not by directly acting but exposing their supplying/ supporting of factions against Israel, thereby creating a pathway for Israel to take care of pressing issues on their doorstep before moving on to garbage further out in the neighborhood.

As much disdain as I have for Obama, I don't see him taking direct action against Israel any time soon - but I can surely be wrong. Obama is looking at the Caliphate as a child eyes wrapped Christmas gifts, as he believes he will definitely have a position of importance within should such actually become realized. Saying that, I believe he will create any obstacle in Israel's path possible that he can from behind the scenes, while attempting to retain the mask of alliance with Israel here at home. Remember, he's only said "Israel has a right to defend themselves", and this brings to light a couple of different angles.

1) He made that statement, and it has been repeated over and over by the MSM this past week and a half as if he's putting full support behind Israel, though this is not so. He's made no specific, qualifying statement regarding the Israel/ Gaza conflict, though he has spent time traveling while extending his support to Egypt under the guise of "negotiating a cease fire". He, as always, has yet to make a firm stand for Israel.

2) I firmly believe he will do everything within his capabilities to promote the acceptance of Palestine in the UN, further expressing his support for those factions still striving for an elimination of Israel.

3) His statement centered around Israel's "Right to defend themselves" - implying as long as they were to wait to get hit first, the respond with a proportionate action, he was ok with it. This position will hurt Israel in the near future, and they definitely recognize that.

If Israel continues their current path of clearing their doorstep, the threat of multiple exigent engagements at home will be greatly diminished. Obama knows this, as does Hamas/ Hezbollah/ Islamic Jihad/ Egypt/ Syria/, and certainly Iran. As much as Israel is using the current quelling of fighting to further their ultimate goals, the above named actors are using this time as well to re-organize as to how best to create more disruptions in Israel's plans, consume resources, wear down personnel (even the ramping up & waiting creates stress & fatigue), and attempt to weaken the resolve of the Israeli citizenry.

Should all of this planning and preparing fail and Israel is then attacked on multiple fronts by multiple nations, they have not been very secretive pertaining to the possibilities of "The Sampson Option". This, ultimately, would not be positive for Israel, nor the rest of the world, but I firmly believe they would rather engage such option before seeing what is left of Israel being turned over to and becoming an Islamic state.

While we are gorging ourselves on left overs, storming the sales, preoccupying ourselves with football, and otherwise living with blinders on as we enter the holiday season, let us not forget that there are very serious events on the near horizon as we continue our distracted lives while living during the most dangerous times in history.

God bless us all.

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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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The low could be related to the Egyptian riots. IMHO.

I won't say anymore about it in this thread -- kinda off topic. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


yea, might be so, self proclaiming dictator EVENT.

all in all, it is apparently still a little event compared to what is to come at the end of the month hiding
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Here is something that I posted last night to do with Egypt situation.....

Thread: Breaking Egypt's Constitutional Court looking to impeach Morsi - reports
AND THEN A SKELETON POPPED OUT

A thought on Islam and the Extremist threat, if someone has the plague and is sat in a room full of people do you only Quarantine the person or all in the room ?

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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i just try to figure how AntiChrist will erase arab presence from israel/palestine and surroundings, expand israel borders (from nile to euphrate) get his hands on jerusalem and rebuild Salomon temple.

israel is not yet subjected to extermination, it will happen only when Jesus returns. Until then Israel will rule the world with the AC as their leader.

im trying to figure out the puzzle pieces chuckle
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that sounds exactly like our moshiach!
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that is because he will be your moshiach, this is God plan to fool you guys. He sends the AC first, then He sends the real moshiach to kill the AC.

only judaism doesnt talk any word about AC, i let you guess why hf

im very curious to know if these clashes in egypt will lead to another war between egypt and israel until israel definitely occupies sinai up to the nile, this being the first border goal achieved, then since syria is currently under doom, israel will launch also an invasion on syria from golan heigths to expand territory to euphrates.

the question remains about lebanon and jordania.
popcorn time
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i just try to figure how AntiChrist will erase arab presence from israel/palestine and surroundings, expand israel borders (from nile to euphrate) get his hands on jerusalem and rebuild Salomon temple.

israel is not yet subjected to extermination, it will happen only when Jesus returns. Until then Israel will rule the world with the AC as their leader.

im trying to figure out the puzzle pieces chuckle
 Quoting: Zef


that sounds exactly like our moshiach!
 Quoting: DPS


that is because he will be your moshiach, this is God plan to fool you guys. He sends the AC first, then He sends the real moshiach to kill the AC.

only judaism doesnt talk any word about AC, i let you guess why hf

im very curious to know if these clashes in egypt will lead to another war between egypt and israel until israel definitely occupies sinai up to the nile, this being the first border goal achieved, then since syria is currently under doom, israel will launch also an invasion on syria from golan heigths to expand territory to euphrates.

the question remains about lebanon and jordania.
popcorn time
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to the contrary you little uneduceted gentile, the AC was invented by romans (who created christianity for thier own agenda) so end time christians would reject moshiach...
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to the contrary you little uneduceted gentile, the AC was invented by romans (who created christianity for thier own agenda) so end time christians would reject moshiach...
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you just forgot that islam also talks about Al Massih Ad Dajjal (the False Messiah = the Anti-Christ).

well i guess you will argue that islam was created by christians and thus is no better than them. Looks like for you jews, God sent no messenger/prophets after Moses and Thora remains the only word of God given to humanity.

useless rant and off-topic debate, so let's wait together and see how it unfolds with a great buck of popcorn

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i green texted it on 21 november :

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The low could be related to the Egyptian riots. IMHO.

I won't say anymore about it in this thread -- kinda off topic. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


yea, might be so, self proclaiming dictator EVENT.

all in all, it is apparently still a little event compared to what is to come at the end of the month hiding
 Quoting: Zef


Here is something that I posted last night to do with Egypt situation.....

Thread: Breaking Egypt's Constitutional Court looking to impeach Morsi - reports
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OMG the two super pinned Egypt threads are b-o-r-i-n-g!
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Hamas polices Gaza border after IDF fire kills man by fence.

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 Quoting: subzero86


Thanks for the update.
Tension seems to be getting hotter on the border.
 Quoting: reaperz73


It will be interesting to see if Obama keeps his supposed promise to BiBi and puts US troops on the Sinai border to stop smuggling of Iranian weapons to Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


I know I don't trust him, so you can bet your last dollar that Bibi knows the score.

Most (at least most here now) know that this cease fire has been engineered to show Israel's restraint and willingness to negotiate, while at the same time create yet another opportunity for the world at large to see the aggression truly coming from the other side of the fence (literally).

Consider this as well; at this point in history, Israel knows full well it has been left on it's own - that writing has been chiseled onto the wall. With this understanding, don't discount the possibilities that again appeasing Washington (BO) will also ultimately reveal that even though Israel capitulates with the desires of Washington under the guise of more and more promises, Washington cannot be trusted from an Israeli standpoint any more than Hamas & Co.

As this comes to fruition, Israel will actually have a much more firm footing to do whatever they deem necessary to ensure their own safety and survival.

The attention span for many has been exceeded during this cease fire time frame. This is the by-product of a society so steeped with instant gratification, that if something isn't "right now", then it has either failed or the operation is over in entirety. This is far from the truth, and this time is being used for many preparations, both politically and logistically, on more than one front, while also crating an environment where true supporters of Israel (as Israel - not some concocted combined area) as well as their true enemies are all ultimately revealed.

This is the beginning of separating the wheat from the chaff.
 Quoting: ClydeX


Another positive development for Israel -- look at this thread. Normally an international, Conspiracy Internet forum would be a veritable magnet for assorted neo-Nazi, Muslims, deranged Truthrs and massive Muslim-oil funded propaganda shills & trolls.

Even the few neutral & pro-Israel people, would be so swamped by the deluge of ignorance, lies and spin... that they would be seriously questioning their convictions, possibly even switching to the Dark side....

The exact opposite happened: Israel supporters and neutral American patriots OUTNUMBER the haters.

Not only that, look how many regular posters here are able to easily dispel vicious, vile pro-Hamas Pallywood propaganda trash.

Whereas before even pro-Israelis couldn't even find Israel on a MAP... now they, myself included, can tell you the fine aspects of dynamic, crazy Israeli POLITICS and aspects of military operations.

If anything, despite the absolutely massive propganda avalanche by BBC/CNN/RT to sell the fraudelent Pali narrative that Israel is committing Genocide on peaceful jihadis in Gaza.....Israel is the one that is coming off as looking like a REASONABLE, compromising party, if not an outright victim of Pali aggression.

Hamas are the ones who are looking like pathetic, sadistic BARBARIANS. Even the Saudi Arabia media are ripping them for executing those "collaborator" without proof or trial, then defiling & parading their corpses for all the world to see -- which is against Islamic teaching.

Yes, Saudi Arabia! Wow
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The low could be related to the Egyptian riots. IMHO.

I won't say anymore about it in this thread -- kinda off topic. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


yea, might be so, self proclaiming dictator EVENT.

all in all, it is apparently still a little event compared to what is to come at the end of the month hiding
 Quoting: Zef


Here is something that I posted last night to do with Egypt situation.....

Thread: Breaking Egypt's Constitutional Court looking to impeach Morsi - reports
 Quoting: Anderson_G


OMG the two super pinned Egypt threads are b-o-r-i-n-g!
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


I'm in your boat, pass the oars.

For educational purposes, I have found that after spending time on this thread for 4 days, and constantly watching very little coverage of the bombings from different angles and sources that,.....

YouTube can be filtered to show videos uploaded by Gazans who were on the ground with their cell phones and personal recorders. Many of nights we searched for different feeds to show what was being targeted, speculation of hit or miss, was that a drone or F-16?.....

YouTube is a good source, a lot of repeated videos, and a lot of prior conflict videos added in to bolster views, but, overall there are great on the ground videos showing how fast the Gazans were moving from their shelters to regroup and record events.

YouTube deletes and censors, so your mileage may vary.
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The low could be related to the Egyptian riots. IMHO.

I won't say anymore about it in this thread -- kinda off topic. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


yea, might be so, self proclaiming dictator EVENT.

all in all, it is apparently still a little event compared to what is to come at the end of the month hiding
 Quoting: Zef


Here is something that I posted last night to do with Egypt situation.....

Thread: Breaking Egypt's Constitutional Court looking to impeach Morsi - reports
 Quoting: Anderson_G


OMG the two super pinned Egypt threads are b-o-r-i-n-g!
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


what is your take on it all ? since your there how do you feel about it all

I don't mean it sarcastically by the way
AND THEN A SKELETON POPPED OUT

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Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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yea, might be so, self proclaiming dictator EVENT.

all in all, it is apparently still a little event compared to what is to come at the end of the month hiding
 Quoting: Zef


Here is something that I posted last night to do with Egypt situation.....

Thread: Breaking Egypt's Constitutional Court looking to impeach Morsi - reports
 Quoting: Anderson_G


OMG the two super pinned Egypt threads are b-o-r-i-n-g!
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


I'm in your boat, pass the oars.

For educational purposes, I have found that after spending time on this thread for 4 days, and constantly watching very little coverage of the bombings from different angles and sources that,.....

YouTube can be filtered to show videos uploaded by Gazans who were on the ground with their cell phones and personal recorders. Many of nights we searched for different feeds to show what was being targeted, speculation of hit or miss, was that a drone or F-16?.....

YouTube is a good source, a lot of repeated videos, and a lot of prior conflict videos added in to bolster views, but, overall there are great on the ground videos showing how fast the Gazans were moving from their shelters to regroup and record events.

YouTube deletes and censors, so your mileage may vary.
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I know it wasn't an F16 because it had a propeller sound.
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Thanks for the update.
Tension seems to be getting hotter on the border.
 Quoting: reaperz73


It will be interesting to see if Obama keeps his supposed promise to BiBi and puts US troops on the Sinai border to stop smuggling of Iranian weapons to Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


I know I don't trust him, so you can bet your last dollar that Bibi knows the score.

Most (at least most here now) know that this cease fire has been engineered to show Israel's restraint and willingness to negotiate, while at the same time create yet another opportunity for the world at large to see the aggression truly coming from the other side of the fence (literally).

Consider this as well; at this point in history, Israel knows full well it has been left on it's own - that writing has been chiseled onto the wall. With this understanding, don't discount the possibilities that again appeasing Washington (BO) will also ultimately reveal that even though Israel capitulates with the desires of Washington under the guise of more and more promises, Washington cannot be trusted from an Israeli standpoint any more than Hamas & Co.

As this comes to fruition, Israel will actually have a much more firm footing to do whatever they deem necessary to ensure their own safety and survival.

The attention span for many has been exceeded during this cease fire time frame. This is the by-product of a society so steeped with instant gratification, that if something isn't "right now", then it has either failed or the operation is over in entirety. This is far from the truth, and this time is being used for many preparations, both politically and logistically, on more than one front, while also crating an environment where true supporters of Israel (as Israel - not some concocted combined area) as well as their true enemies are all ultimately revealed.

This is the beginning of separating the wheat from the chaff.
 Quoting: ClydeX


Another positive development for Israel -- look at this thread. Normally an international, Conspiracy Internet forum would be a veritable magnet for assorted neo-Nazi, Muslims, deranged Truthrs and massive Muslim-oil funded propaganda shills & trolls.

Even the few neutral & pro-Israel people, would be so swamped by the deluge of ignorance, lies and spin... that they would be seriously questioning their convictions, possibly even switching to the Dark side....

The exact opposite happened: Israel supporters and neutral American patriots OUTNUMBER the haters.

Not only that, look how many regular posters here are able to easily dispel vicious, vile pro-Hamas Pallywood propaganda trash.

Whereas before even pro-Israelis couldn't even find Israel on a MAP... now they, myself included, can tell you the fine aspects of dynamic, crazy Israeli POLITICS and aspects of military operations.

If anything, despite the absolutely massive propganda avalanche by BBC/CNN/RT to sell the fraudelent Pali narrative that Israel is committing Genocide on peaceful jihadis in Gaza.....Israel is the one that is coming off as looking like a REASONABLE, compromising party, if not an outright victim of Pali aggression.

Hamas are the ones who are looking like pathetic, sadistic BARBARIANS. Even the Saudi Arabia media are ripping them for executing those "collaborator" without proof or trial, then defiling & parading their corpses for all the world to see -- which is against Islamic teaching.

Yes, Saudi Arabia! Wow
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Agreed, Ashton
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