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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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No because a number of rockets were fired from Gaza within hours of the ceasefire days ago. Palestinians already broke the ceasefire. Israel let it go....getting no credit for it of course.
 Quoting: ISO


Not saying I don't believe you, but do you have a link to an article? Or was it witnessed on the live feeds?
 Quoting: TheChief35

It was totally witnessed.

We all sat right here and watched it on the feeds and then constant twitters all confirmed. It's documented back several pages. And I mean several.
 Quoting: Éireann


and there was several links posted (in this thread) that stated that Hamas fired something over 20 rockets? despite ceasefire being in effect
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Here you go...


Earlier Friday Israeli forces killed Anwar Abdul Hadi Qudaih, 20, near the Israeli border in the southern Gaza Strip, medical officials said. He was hit in the head with a live bullet east of Khan Younis, medics said.

Health Ministry spokesman Ashraf al-Qidra said 19 others were wounded by Israeli fire in the border area.

Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri accused Israel of violating the Egypt-mediated truce and said the group would complain to Cairo. "We will contact the Egyptian mediator to discuss the incident," he said.

[link to www.maannews.net]
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looks to me we have a lot of countries starting to take sides.
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No because a number of rockets were fired from Gaza within hours of the ceasefire days ago. Palestinians already broke the ceasefire. Israel let it go....getting no credit for it of course.
 Quoting: ISO


Not saying I don't believe you, but do you have a link to an article? Or was it witnessed on the live feeds?
 Quoting: TheChief35

It was totally witnessed.

We all sat right here and watched it on the feeds and then constant twitters all confirmed. It's documented back several pages. And I mean several.
 Quoting: Éireann


and there was several links posted (in this thread) that stated that Hamas fired something over 20 rockets? despite ceasefire being in effect
 Quoting: Dr. Acula

Correct, and the LSM only reported 3
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This is the link to where I found the video...


[link to www.euronews.com]



The IDF says around 300 people approached the border fence east of Kahn Younis and some tried to break through. Israeli troops then fired warning shots and after these were ignored they shot at their legs.

A number of others suffered gunshot wounds.
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And why the hell is reuters showing an empty Tahir Square when there is still a war going on in Gaza? It ain't over yet.
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"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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[link to www.ibtimes.co.uk]


That article proves Hamas fired despite there being a cease fire
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This is the link to where I found the video...


[link to www.euronews.com]



The IDF says around 300 people approached the border fence east of Kahn Younis and some tried to break through. Israeli troops then fired warning shots and after these were ignored they shot at their legs.

A number of others suffered gunshot wounds.
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Thank you
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Hey all. Geez Can't believe that I feel asleep at the computer. I am back.
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The Hamas government in Gaza has deployed security forces near the border with Israel after two shooting incidents in the aftermath of Wednesday’s ceasefire.

[link to www.eurasiareview.com]
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Hey all. Geez Can't believe that I feel asleep at the computer. I am back.
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This message is mine it actually logged me out because of the snooze. LOL.
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Was it me or has the site been down ? lol
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Was it me or has the site been down ? lol
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For hours. I was miserable.
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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Oh neat! I've never karma pinned a thread before. Cool.

Anywho, it's pinned for a little bit anyway.
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Oh neat! I've never karma pinned a thread before. Cool.

Anywho, it's pinned for a little bit anyway.
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I hope the little GLP server hiatus' is over for now, because I missed my Gaza updates all night, and to be honest, you just don't get the in-depth minutiae anywhere else like you do on GLP.
I agree that this still bears watching, even though there is a "cease-fire" at the moment, you and I know it won't last. Egypt is ready to blow again, I think, and the effect remains to be seen.
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I hope the little GLP server hiatus' is over for now, because I missed my Gaza updates all night, and to be honest, you just don't get the in-depth minutiae anywhere else like you do on GLP.
I agree that this still bears watching, even though there is a "cease-fire" at the moment, you and I know it won't last. Egypt is ready to blow again, I think, and the effect remains to be seen.
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+1 for using the word "minutiae". :)
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[link to worldnews.nbcnews.com]

Having an F-16 blasted out of the skies must have made Iran shake in their boots, not.

Doesn't the US supply the missiles for the iron dome?

(from link)
Iron Dome
The Iron Dome, Israel's home-made anti-rocket missile system, Israel's key defense against rockets from Gaza prevented carnage. Verdict: Very good with an official hit rate of 84 percent.

According to Israeli army figures, Islamist militants in Gaza fired 1,506 rockets at Israel in eight days. Eight hundred and seventy-five fell harmlessly into open areas like fields and the sea. The Iron Dome is programmed to let those alone and to intercept only rockets that would hit urban areas.

So that would be 631 headed for populated areas and 530 were knocked out and 100 got through and the misses would also be 100 and they would have landed before exploding. Any news releases that document 200 hits near populated areas??
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The No. 2 in Hamas has told The Associated Press that the Islamic militant group won't stop making weapons in Gaza or smuggling them to the territory.

[link to news.yahoo.com]


This cease-fire was set up for failure.
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The No. 2 in Hamas has told The Associated Press that the Islamic militant group won't stop making weapons in Gaza or smuggling them to the territory.

[link to news.yahoo.com]


This cease-fire was set up for failure.
 Quoting: Melrox


I was about to say a condition to the ceasefire was to stop Arms smuggling into Gaza lol

but at the same time does it say they are not allowed to manufacture arms ?

if they get recognition doesn't that make them a separate country meaning they could in fact manufacture their own arms and trade their Arms as well meaning it would no longer be classed as smuggling.....

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Ahmadinejad: Israel must 'bow' to Palestinian rights
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Palestinians: Israel eases Gaza border restrictions after truce (AP).

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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The No. 2 in Hamas has told The Associated Press that the Islamic militant group won't stop making weapons in Gaza or smuggling them to the territory.

[link to news.yahoo.com]


This cease-fire was set up for failure.
 Quoting: Melrox


I was about to say a condition to the ceasefire was to stop Arms smuggling into Gaza lol

but at the same time does it say they are not allowed to manufacture arms ?

if they get recognition doesn't that make them a separate country meaning they could in fact manufacture their own arms and trade their Arms as well meaning it would no longer be classed as smuggling.....

If I'm on the wrong track I apologise cheers
 Quoting: Anderson_G


I believe it also regulates specific parts to arms assembly.
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Ahmadinejad: Israel must 'bow' to Palestinian rights
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1rof1
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is their a spanking involved as well lol
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damned

I don't really think Immadinnerjacket wants to go there.
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"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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The No. 2 in Hamas has told The Associated Press that the Islamic militant group won't stop making weapons in Gaza or smuggling them to the territory.

[link to news.yahoo.com]


This cease-fire was set up for failure.
 Quoting: Melrox


I was about to say a condition to the ceasefire was to stop Arms smuggling into Gaza lol

but at the same time does it say they are not allowed to manufacture arms ?

if they get recognition doesn't that make them a separate country meaning they could in fact manufacture their own arms and trade their Arms as well meaning it would no longer be classed as smuggling.....

If I'm on the wrong track I apologise cheers
 Quoting: Anderson_G


I believe it also regulates specific parts to arms assembly.
 Quoting: Nlightened


so effectively with recognition this would have no bearing making the ceasefire obsolete ?
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 Quoting: Luisport


I am beginning to think last weeks Israel/Gazza was a huge set up for the battle ground to take place in Egypt to include Syria... Then to Iran.. Awfully funny last year when the Iranian Battleship went through the canal to Tartus..
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Egypt's Brotherhood calls protest to support Mursi [link to reut.rs]
 Quoting: Luisport


I am beginning to think last weeks Israel/Gazza was a huge set up for the battle ground to take place in Egypt to include Syria... Then to Iran.. Awfully funny last year when the Iranian Battleship went through the canal to Tartus..
 Quoting: Nlightened


and now with the possibility of a russian fleet coming into the mix for Evac duties
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Protest in front of Egypt high court attacked by unknown assailants

Hundreds of protesters who marched on Egypt's High Judiciary Court in downtown Cairo to protest against president Mohamed Morsi's decree were attacked by unknown assailants.

The liberal Constitution Party, the Egyptian Social Democratic Party and the liberal Wafd Party were protesting Morsi's recent constitutional declaration and voicing support to judges who were holding an extraordinary general assembly inside the building to discuss responses to Morsi's decree.

Ahram Online reporters at the scene said the demonstrators were attacked with fireworks, which stirred panic among them as everyone ran aimlessly to escape violence. One protester was bleeding following the attack.

Police has arrived on the scene and are using tear gas canisters to disperse protesters.

The protesters gathered in front of the High court as members of the Judiciary General Assembly mulled measures to oppose Morsi’s highly-controversial decree.

They chanted "the people demand the downfall of the regime" and "Freedom, Bread, the dissolution of constituent assembly," in reference to the embattled Islamist-dominated constitution writing body.

Judges were due to go to Tahrir square, the cradle of last year’s revolution, to continue their demonstrations.

[link to english.ahram.org.eg]
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I hope those reports we've been hearing, of US troops in Sinai next week, turn out to be true...otherwise Hamas will get resupplied quickly from Iran through the tunnels on the border with Egypt and the cycle will start all over again !

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