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Ahhh! Then definitely not you. I can't remember his nick either for some damn reason. Boom! Gone right out of my head.
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Same here...

I was talking about said a few weeks ago as well. His 'name' has completely eluded me.

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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86


I am somewhat relieved that we are spared of a ground war. This is the fastest a middle east conflict has ever been "resolved"; something's fishy.
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Something is very fishy indeed ! But I must say I am not relieved at all my friend and neither should you cos if nothing major happens in the next few weeks or months...Hamas is going to regroup and resupply from Iran and the cycle starts all over again !

The people of Israel will be back to living with the constant fear that a rocket might fall on their heads ! BiBi had a chance to end Hamas once and for all and he passed that up, I pray that he had good reasons and he wasn't blackmailed with something !
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Game changer!

I repeat, game changer.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge.

(I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.)

Last Edited by AWFEKKIT on 11/24/2012 01:06 PM
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Game changer!

I repeat, game changer.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge.

(I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.)
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Google browser automatically translates it for you.
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Miko Peled, the General's Son : An Israeli in Palestine.


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The Associated Press‏@AP

BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
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The Associated Press‏@AP

BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
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does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
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Egyptian constitutional judge body asks all judges to strike over Mursi decree
 Quoting: Luisport


Let them.

The judges are all that's left over from the regime.
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BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
 Quoting: Luisport


does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86

Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
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The Associated Press&#8207;@AP

BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
 Quoting: Luisport


does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ?
AND THEN A SKELETON POPPED OUT

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86

Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result
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BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
 Quoting: Luisport


does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


It does, all things considered. I'm sure the media is full of non-stop coverage of Tahrir so it looks like the place is in complete chaos all of the time, but it's not. Part of it is because the people who actually do the work of the government on a day-to-day basis (the clerks who stamp the papers, the teachers who teach the classes) are still there, doing what they do. The people at the top are what have changed.

Is it perfect? No, because it hasn't settled down yet and, more than anything, the power plays and looming "sharia" aren't going over well in general and people are just plain tired of it.

Other than that, people get up in the morning, go to work, earn their living, and so on.
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1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized.

2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles.

3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation.

4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification.

5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets.

6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow.

So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria.


I think Israel played this game very well.
my 2 cents
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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86

Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result
 Quoting: Anderson_G

Ya, a result that makes some, if still very little sense in the overall scheme of things. Truth be known I'm still just grabbing at straws to tie this all together.
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I'M AT A PARTY, WHY IS THIS PINNED AGAIN FRIENDS

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Better yet, why are you at a party checking this thread?

Hmmmmmmm?
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...


does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


It does, all things considered. I'm sure the media is full of non-stop coverage of Tahrir so it looks like the place is in complete chaos all of the time, but it's not. Part of it is because the people who actually do the work of the government on a day-to-day basis (the clerks who stamp the papers, the teachers who teach the classes) are still there, doing what they do. The people at the top are what have changed.

Is it perfect? No, because it hasn't settled down yet and, more than anything, the power plays and looming "sharia" aren't going over well in general and people are just plain tired of it.

Other than that, people get up in the morning, go to work, earn their living, and so on.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


well I have to say good on you all from what the news and 90% of the posts even one I put up the other day are one sided and depict a view of absolute chaos.....

respect goes out to your country for doing so, I hope it does work out for the good at the end of it all.....

thank you clearing that up for me take it easy cheers
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1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized.

2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles.

3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation.

4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification.

5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets.

6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow.

So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria.


I think Israel played this game very well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864


1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized.

2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles.

3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation.

4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification.

5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets.

6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow.

So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria.


I think Israel played this game very well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864


they're still a long way from taking down assad and those paid terrorist are dropping like flies, so, no i dont think its done, not without a fight
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1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized.

2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles.

3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation.

4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification.

5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets.

6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow.

So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria.


I think Israel played this game very well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864



they're still a long way from taking down assad and those paid terrorist are dropping like flies, so, no i dont think its done, not without a fight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28386766


Very true, but this is just the beginning. A preperation phase. Israel is mobilising it's force for a reason. Phase two will probabley begin after US/NATO deployment to the region.
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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86

Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result
 Quoting: Anderson_G

Ya, a result that makes some, if still very little sense in the overall scheme of things. Truth be known I'm still just grabbing at straws to tie this all together.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


its a head ache to start with.......

the only thing I can think of to explain is fingers in pies someone does a favour for a favour for a favour in order to gain something from that......

what is another matter but I do believe the next event that kicks off may be the final nail in coffin if Bibi doesn't protect his people they may rise against him.

Or could it be to do with election fixing who has the greatest influence who picks who is next in a countries office it really can't be the peoples choice Look at all the fuck ups we call governments in the world today, it wouldn't be the first time a government has been installed to suit a countries interest.
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Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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Knowledge is Power, Power is A target, You are Dangerous with Knowledge therefore you are a Target.
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1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized.

2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles.

3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation.

4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification.

5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets.

6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow.

So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria.


I think Israel played this game very well.
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Indeed they have!
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@Frommadon In #Gaza, #Hamas is the new #PA. Salafis are the new Hamas
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Deployment of Patriots in Turkey Means No-Fly Zone for Syria

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Game changer!

I repeat, game changer.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge.

(I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.)
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Keep us posted hf
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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86

Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
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I agree...

I believe there is something much more sinister going on behinds the scenes and it has to do with U.N Palestinian vote coming up on the 29th...

If Palestine is granted observer status then it will be officially recognize by the U.N as a sovereign state...


With the Palestinians having observer status they could join the Law of the Sea Treaty and effectively end Israel’s blockades... This treaty also gives the Palestinians full sovereign rights over its airspace...


In short this will free the Palestinians from all commitments and agreements it has made with Israel...

ISRAEL WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN...


This is why I believe the ceasefire is nothing but a dog and pony trick and is a set up to something much larger...


There is a very good chance that SHIT WILL GET REAL by the 29th...


Let see what happens...
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
I believe there is something much more sinister going on behinds the scenes and it has to do with U.N Palestinian vote coming up on the 29th...

If Palestine is granted observer status then it will be officially recognize by the U.N as a sovereign state...


With the Palestinians having observer status they could join the Law of the Sea Treaty and effectively end Israel’s blockades... This treaty also gives the Palestinians full sovereign rights over its airspace...


In short this will free the Palestinians from all commitments and agreements it has made with Israel...

ISRAEL WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN...


This is why I believe the ceasefire is nothing but a dog and pony trick and is a set up to something much larger...


There is a very good chance that SHIT WILL GET REAL by the 29th...


Let see what happens...
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Clinton warns Netanyahu not to punish Palestinian Authority for UN bid


Clinton told Netanyahu he should examine how to strengthen Abbas now, especially after the operation in Gaza, which brought about the strengthening of Hamas among the Palestinian public.

Two senior Israeli officials and an American official, who asked to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the subject, said the American message to Israel was not to take any irreversible actions and to act wisely the day after the UN vote.

The Obama administration thinks it is necessary to try and minimize the potential damage of the Palestinian move in the UN, said the U.S. official. Extreme acts by Israel the day after will not help, they will only make the situation worse, he added.

Clinton told Netanyahu that such punitive steps against the PA would only weaken it, which would not serve Israeli interests, said a senior Israeli official. Clinton emphasized that steps such as annulling the Oslo Accords or freezing Palestinian tax funds could bring about dangerous consequences, including the collapse of the PA, said the official.


[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
Does anyone think that Arafat exhumation and the likely probability to prove he was poisoned (likely by Mosad) will mean anything?

Both Fatah and Hamas will have a casus beli (the killing of PLO leader)...but will they do something?

Will the cease fire resist if Arafat will be proven to being poisoned?


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