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tarfonwxx

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Thank You for finding & posting that link tarfonwxx. I was having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to do it from this old cell I'm on LOL
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Thank You for finding & posting that link tarfonwxx. I was having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to do it from this old cell I'm on LOL
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I'm just glad you brought it up! And yes, tarfon, thank you for the link.

Good catch, AC :D
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
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wow why is this pinned again

let it die in peace!
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If you don't like it, don't click on it.

Simples.
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ElectricPurple
 Quoting: Seer777

Totally off topic.

But I thought you died in a car crash??
 Quoting: Éireann


Obviously not...

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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86


I am somewhat relieved that we are spared of a ground war. This is the fastest a middle east conflict has ever been "resolved"; something's fishy.
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ElectricPurple
 Quoting: Seer777

Totally off topic.

But I thought you died in a car crash??
 Quoting: Éireann


Obviously not...

blink
 Quoting: Seer777

Well! I'm certainly very glad to see that this wasn't true!
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Obviously not...

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 Quoting: Seer777

Well! I'm certainly very glad to see that this wasn't true!
 Quoting: Éireann


You heard I died in a car crash?

From whom?


I am glad, you are glad that I am still alive.

tounge



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anyone think it's a little suspicious morsi makes a power grab the day after he met with clinton?
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


For me nothing could be more suspicious than what BiBi did or should I say didn't do, after he met with Clinton !

I still can't believe he didn't go into Gaza !

Two days ago a colleague called me a "pussy" and said he really didn't expect the Jews to be afraid of a few barbarians with Ak-47s.

I must admit, BiBi has disappointed a lot of people around the world with his decision and Israel's image had a lot to suffer !
 Quoting: subzero86


I heard from someone who knows

Obama told BiBi ABSOLUTELY NO ground forces.

He left him no choice
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Well! I'm certainly very glad to see that this wasn't true!
 Quoting: Éireann




Ohhh...I know who you are talking about.

Yes. He did die in a car crash.

He also utilized the '777'.

He was a member before my time here, so I can not remember the first part of his member name.



Also, I am female.

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Obviously not...

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 Quoting: Seer777

Well! I'm certainly very glad to see that this wasn't true!
 Quoting: Éireann

You heard I died in a car crash?

From whom?
 Quoting: Seer777

It was a post from this summer and I can't find it now. Many of us argued that there was more than one Seer, but they all had me convinced it was 777. Obviously, they were quite wrong and I couldn't be happier about it :D
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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Well! I'm certainly very glad to see that this wasn't true!
 Quoting: Éireann




Ohhh...I know who you are talking about.

Yes. He did die in a car crash.

He also utilized the '777'.

He was a member before my time here, so I can not remember the first part of his member name.



Also, I am female.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777

Ahhh! Then definitely not you. I can't remember his nick either for some damn reason. Boom! Gone right out of my head.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
tarfonwxx

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anyone think it's a little suspicious morsi makes a power grab the day after he met with clinton?
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


For me nothing could be more suspicious than what BiBi did or should I say didn't do, after he met with Clinton !

I still can't believe he didn't go into Gaza !

Two days ago a colleague called me a "pussy" and said he really didn't expect the Jews to be afraid of a few barbarians with Ak-47s.

I must admit, BiBi has disappointed a lot of people around the world with his decision and Israel's image had a lot to suffer !
 Quoting: subzero86


I heard from someone who knows

Obama told BiBi ABSOLUTELY NO ground forces.

He left him no choice
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28388895


wouldn't bibi have known that before he called up the troops?

scratching
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Ahhh! Then definitely not you. I can't remember his nick either for some damn reason. Boom! Gone right out of my head.
 Quoting: Éireann


Same here...

I was talking about said a few weeks ago as well. His 'name' has completely eluded me.

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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86


I am somewhat relieved that we are spared of a ground war. This is the fastest a middle east conflict has ever been "resolved"; something's fishy.
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Something is very fishy indeed ! But I must say I am not relieved at all my friend and neither should you cos if nothing major happens in the next few weeks or months...Hamas is going to regroup and resupply from Iran and the cycle starts all over again !

The people of Israel will be back to living with the constant fear that a rocket might fall on their heads ! BiBi had a chance to end Hamas once and for all and he passed that up, I pray that he had good reasons and he wasn't blackmailed with something !
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Game changer!

I repeat, game changer.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge.

(I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.)

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Game changer!

I repeat, game changer.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge.

(I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.)
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Google browser automatically translates it for you.
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Miko Peled, the General's Son : An Israeli in Palestine.


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Egyptian constitutional judge body asks all judges to strike over Mursi decree
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The Associated Press‏@AP

BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
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BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
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does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
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Egyptian constitutional judge body asks all judges to strike over Mursi decree
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Let them.

The judges are all that's left over from the regime.
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BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
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does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
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Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
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BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
 Quoting: Luisport


does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ?
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Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !?
 Quoting: subzero86

Hi Subzero!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF.
This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result
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BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded.
 Quoting: Luisport


does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Yeah, actually, it really doesn't.

There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


It does, all things considered. I'm sure the media is full of non-stop coverage of Tahrir so it looks like the place is in complete chaos all of the time, but it's not. Part of it is because the people who actually do the work of the government on a day-to-day basis (the clerks who stamp the papers, the teachers who teach the classes) are still there, doing what they do. The people at the top are what have changed.

Is it perfect? No, because it hasn't settled down yet and, more than anything, the power plays and looming "sharia" aren't going over well in general and people are just plain tired of it.

Other than that, people get up in the morning, go to work, earn their living, and so on.
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I'M AT A PARTY, WHY IS THIS PINNED AGAIN FRIENDS

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1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized.

2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles.

3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation.

4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification.

5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets.

6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow.

So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria.


I think Israel played this game very well.

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