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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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#BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586


And just who was named to oversee the cease fire?

If their government is shaken up, even if by appearance only, just what chance there is no one now willing to pursue oversight of the cease fire?

If the above happens, and such decision of enforcing the cease fire is pursued, how long until they decide to stretch the limits of their perceived level of "control" over Israel?

Just some things to put some thought into.
 Quoting: ClydeX

Very unstable times. The whole world is like a powder keg.
 Quoting: Éireann


...just waiting for someone with a match

abomb
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


I think the slow-burning fuse has already been lit.
The question remains just how long is that fuse?
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Thread: Israel losing battle of words on social media.BIG TIME!
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Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza


ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt.

“Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source.

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]
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Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza


ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt.

“Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source.

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]
 Quoting: Melrox

They may have ceased fire but Israel will not stop protecting itself. I thought what Bibi did was fine. He didn't really roll over. They accomplish much during the last 6 days. They just arrested more threats to their country. Israel is doing what they need to do. I am sure Bibi got something from Clinton. He may be getting weapons, planes or who knows for agreeing to cease fire.

Why don't we have any Israelis on here?
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Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza


ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt.

“Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source.

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]
 Quoting: Melrox

They may have ceased fire but Israel will not stop protecting itself. I thought what Bibi did was fine. He didn't really roll over. They accomplish much during the last 6 days. They just arrested more threats to their country. Israel is doing what they need to do. I am sure Bibi got something from Clinton. He may be getting weapons, planes or who knows for agreeing to cease fire.

Why don't we have any Israelis on here?
 Quoting: Corn Dog
If this cargo ship is Iranian and Bibi attacks/destroys it. Might this be what he needs in order to get to the head of the snake?
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LOL this ceasefire will last as long as LBJ's ceasefires with the North Vietnamese did(s).
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another mossad job
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#BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah
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Rafah is in Gaza on the Egyptian border.
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#BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586


Rafah is in Gaza on the Egyptian border.
 Quoting: ISO


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It's divided to both Egypt and Gaza?
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#BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586


Rafah is in Gaza on the Egyptian border.
 Quoting: ISO


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It's divided to both Egypt and Gaza?
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That is weird ....oh well....sort of like Jerusalem
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Ok...How crazy is this?

Arafat body to be exhumed in murder inquiry


The body of late president Yasser Arafat will be exhumed on Tuesday in an investigation to establish if he was murdered, a Palestinian official said.

The Palestinians have "evidence which suggests Arafat was assassinated by Israelis," Tirawi added. Israel denies any involvement.

The exhumation and renewed allegations of Israeli involvement could stir further tension between the Palestinians and Israel, which are observing a truce after a week of fierce fighting in Gaza.

[link to www.maannews.net]
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Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza


ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt.

“Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source.

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]
 Quoting: Melrox

They may have ceased fire but Israel will not stop protecting itself. I thought what Bibi did was fine. He didn't really roll over. They accomplish much during the last 6 days. They just arrested more threats to their country. Israel is doing what they need to do. I am sure Bibi got something from Clinton. He may be getting weapons, planes or who knows for agreeing to cease fire.

Why don't we have any Israelis on here?
 Quoting: Corn Dog
If this cargo ship is Iranian and Bibi attacks/destroys it. Might this be what he needs in order to get to the head of the snake?
 Quoting: Melrox


Israel took out persia's missile factory in sudan and persia did nothing but cry about it.
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Ok...How crazy is this?

Arafat body to be exhumed in murder inquiry


The body of late president Yasser Arafat will be exhumed on Tuesday in an investigation to establish if he was murdered, a Palestinian official said.

The Palestinians have "evidence which suggests Arafat was assassinated by Israelis," Tirawi added. Israel denies any involvement.

The exhumation and renewed allegations of Israeli involvement could stir further tension between the Palestinians and Israel, which are observing a truce after a week of fierce fighting in Gaza.

[link to www.maannews.net]
 Quoting: CowgirlK


They wont start firing rockets out of rage...they will try to use it after the UN bid to pursue that war crimes bs. Obviously that would look ridiculous to all but Muslims and activists. Hamas is guily of war crimes galore....but they are aware of the bias at the UN and will exploit it. We migbt see Netanyahu blow his top at that point.
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Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza


ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt.

“Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source.

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]
 Quoting: Melrox


They know where the ship is, they can track its every move, I think they'll wait until it's in international waters and then those rockets on board will go for swim !

Perhaps they will try just disabling the ship with a torpedo detonated at a certain distance or something, that way the ship will be stuck at sea and forced to seek help...and when help arrives they will discover the rockets on board !
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Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza

The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms

Ynet
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Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza

The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms

Ynet

 Quoting: NDH


As I've said earlier, the IDF has to sink that ship cos if ballistic missiles like the Shahab-3 are going to reach Sudan...that's really bad news for Israel !

Israel is already surrounded by enemies, and if Sudan gets those ballistic missiles it can really do some serious damage ! That ship needs to swim with the fishes very soon !
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Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza

The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms

Ynet

 Quoting: NDH


As I've said earlier, the IDF has to sink that ship cos if ballistic missiles like the Shahab-3 are going to reach Sudan...that's really bad news for Israel !

Israel is already surrounded by enemies, and if Sudan gets those ballistic missiles it can really do some serious damage ! That ship needs to swim with the fishes very soon !
 Quoting: subzero86


Can someone tell me ( please forgive my ignorance ) but under what Law does Israel have the right to attack this ship?
If countries with Warships etc can freely move around with weapons onboard why is this ship not allowed to?

(serious question...not trying to take the piss or anything...just dont understand why Iran is not allowed to transport weapons to an ally of theirs..?)

Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/25/2012 03:07 AM
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Can someone tell me ( please forgive my ignorance ) but under what Law does Israel have the right to attack this ship?
If countries with Warships etc can freely move around with weapons onboard why is this ship not allowed to?

(serious question...not trying to take the piss or anything...just dont understand why Iran is not allowed to transport weapons to an ally..?)
 Quoting: taniatarn


Tania, with all do respect, you are a Palestinian supporter, you have made that perfectly clear on many occasions, so please stop trying to act impartial !

Israel is a sovereign nation and has a right to defend itself like any other nation on Earth!

Let's say for a second that New Zealand was at war with Australia and Kiwi intelligence got word that a big transport of ballistic missiles are en route to Australia with the aim of being fired at NZ at some point in the future !

Wouldn't you want your country to take preemptive action to stop that ship from ever delivering those rockets to the Aussies !?

It's the same think with Israel, it has the right to prevent weapons from reaching Gaza or Sudan because those weapons are going to be fired at Israeli cities in the near future !

Hamas wanted a cease fire so it can catch its breath, resupply from Iran and start the cycle all over again...Israel has the right to stop Hamas (a terrorist organization) from resupplying its weapon stash !
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Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza

The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms

Ynet

 Quoting: NDH


As I've said earlier, the IDF has to sink that ship cos if ballistic missiles like the Shahab-3 are going to reach Sudan...that's really bad news for Israel !

Israel is already surrounded by enemies, and if Sudan gets those ballistic missiles it can really do some serious damage ! That ship needs to swim with the fishes very soon !
 Quoting: subzero86





Anything to protect !

Jerusalem is considered a holy city in many religions so it must be protected so that ship must be sunk to protect it .


i have said the same thing pages back also....
hamas are restocking and re educating on mistakes
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US aircraft carrier strikeforce readies in case of war with Iran


Link: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Can someone tell me ( please forgive my ignorance ) but under what Law does Israel have the right to attack this ship?
If countries with Warships etc can freely move around with weapons onboard why is this ship not allowed to?

(serious question...not trying to take the piss or anything...just dont understand why Iran is not allowed to transport weapons to an ally..?)
 Quoting: taniatarn


Tania, with all do respect, you are a Palestinian supporter, you have made that perfectly clear on many occasions, so please stop trying to act impartial !

Israel is a sovereign nation and has a right to defend itself like any other nation on Earth!

Let's say for a second that New Zealand was at war with Australia and Kiwi intelligence got word that a big transport of ballistic missiles are en route to Australia with the aim of being fired at NZ at some point in the future !

Wouldn't you want your country to take preemptive action to stop that ship from ever delivering those rockets to the Aussies !?

It's the same think with Israel, it has the right to prevent weapons from reaching Gaza or Sudan because those weapons are going to be fired at Israeli cities in the near future !

Hamas wanted a cease fire so it can catch its breath, resupply from Iran and start the cycle all over again...Israel has the right to stop Hamas (a terrorist organization) from resupplying its weapon stash !
 Quoting: subzero86


Just to clarify my position...Religious Extremism and everything it stands for is very frightening.No matter what the religion. I dont like war full stop...and I certainly dont side with Hamas or Islam. But I do think that there is SIGNIFICANTLY less options for the Gazan children to be protected, than the Israeli Children and as a Mother this strikes a chord deep in my heart. I side with Palestines children being able to experience freedom from the current prison they are in ( and it is a prison not just in the physical sense but also a religious prison for them as well. ) Many many MANY people do not want to be there but cannot leave. The same cannot be said for the Israeli people who can freely come and go. I realise they are also suffering from the stress of rocket fire...I do not agree with this either and do not wish missiles to all on Israel at all. I believe religion is the root of this issue...and not just Islam/Muslim Extremism. The Jewish faith is just as dangerous.

Yes I would want something to be done to help prevent those rockets being fired on my country...but I would on the other hand want a Kiwi ship to make it to New Zealand with a supply that was destined for our defence. Do you see what that really means? If those weapons were bound for Israel to be fired on Gaza you would be cheering for it to get thru...and be livid if the Palestines Allies decided to illegally sink the ship...

That is why I asked the question impartially cause I want to know how this stands in line with international Law...can ISrael LEGALLY destroy the ship?
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Which flag does the ship sail under ? Surely its nation isn't going to be very happy if it was sunk and lives lost , creating yet more tension....
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Which flag does the ship sail under ? Surely its nation isn't going to be very happy if it was sunk and lives lost , creating yet more tension....
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It would have to be iranian ???
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US aircraft carrier strikeforce readies in case of war with Iran


Link: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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The flagship $4.5 billion carrier, a 100,000 ton floating city with a crew of 5,000, was despatched four months earlier than planned to bolster the United States Navy's already formidable force in the region, the Fifth Fleet.

Alcohol is strictly forbidden, prayers are said over the ship's intercom, and although dating is allowed - there are 600 women on board, and the average age of ratings is about 19 - "intimacy" is not. Time off is spent catching up with sleep or watching the ship's 24-hour movie channel.

Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/25/2012 05:00 AM
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Which flag does the ship sail under ? Surely its nation isn't going to be very happy if it was sunk and lives lost , creating yet more tension....
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It would have to be iranian ???
 Quoting: NDH


If it was , im sure they'd be damn unhappy if something happened to it .....

Or they could use another countries vessel as cover , is there a sea blockade stopping shipping into Gaza ,or like been said before , sneak to ship into egypt. This would mean the Israelis would have to check every ship into Gaza / Egypt ..which they are not going to do ...

More fuel to the fire I think either way...ship blown up = DOOM, missiles enter gaza = DOOM..

Just generally DOOM..
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Which flag does the ship sail under ? Surely its nation isn't going to be very happy if it was sunk and lives lost , creating yet more tension....
 Quoting: JAY9000





It would have to be iranian ???
 Quoting: NDH


If it was , im sure they'd be damn unhappy if something happened to it .....

Or they could use another countries vessel as cover , is there a sea blockade stopping shipping into Gaza ,or like been said before , sneak to ship into egypt. This would mean the Israelis would have to check every ship into Gaza / Egypt ..which they are not going to do ...

More fuel to the fire I think either way...ship blown up = DOOM, missiles enter gaza = DOOM..

Just generally DOOM..
 Quoting: JAY9000




Pretty much , Welcome to our future of hell tomato
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Jerusalem Arab Arrested for Spying for Hizbullah

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Nasrallah: Our fight with Israel covers entire country

"if only a few Fajr-5 rockets shook Israel, how would it deal with thousands of rockets falling on Tel Aviv as well as other cities if it should venture to attack Lebanon."

Nasrallah added that the fight with Israel is from Kiryat Shmona (one of the northernmost Israeli communities) to Eilat (the southernmost Israeli city). He then turned to Arab nations asking them to arm and fund terror organizations in the Gaza Strip.

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In Tehran and Moscow, the Gaza offensive was not perceived as a lone Israeli operation but rather as the ground-breaker for a broader offensive by the US, Turkey and Qatar and the product of their combined intelligence brains rather than of military war planners.

Iran had been systematically building up the Gaza Strip as its “southern front” to fight enemies who attacked its nuclear facilities. The obliteration of a large portion of the military infrastructure Hamas and Jihad Islam had accumulated left this plan in shambles. Moscow and Tehran fully expect Washington to next turn the attention of the intelligence team which engineered the dashing of Iran’s hopes in Gaza to Syria and Hizballah, exploiting Tehran’s momentary weakness.

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