"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire | |
| Éireann Eisteacht le gra! User ID: 28380975 11/24/2012 06:02 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Arabiya English ‏@AlArabiya_Eng Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586 #BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah And just who was named to oversee the cease fire? If their government is shaken up, even if by appearance only, just what chance there is no one now willing to pursue oversight of the cease fire? If the above happens, and such decision of enforcing the cease fire is pursued, how long until they decide to stretch the limits of their perceived level of "control" over Israel? Just some things to put some thought into. Very unstable times. The whole world is like a powder keg. Éireann~ Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!") "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816 "Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant.." - James Munford You can educate the ignorant, but you can't fix stupid! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind. |
| ASV User ID: 28394405 11/24/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For people wondering what happened with the ground invasion, I think a lot of good theories have been presented, but I think the main idea is that Obama is a Muslim at heart, has openly said he would side with the Muslims, and is acting as such. Quoting: ISO VALERIE JARRETT is his CLOSEST ADVISOR. Look her up, then you will understand why Obama is using his power to destroy Israel once and for all. Israel will be required to openly and willingly DEFY Barack Obama in order to fight for their lives and survive. Netanyahu decided now is not the time to defy Obama. That is the only remaining mystery in my mind. To be clear, Israel could be attacked from all sides, and Obama can get on the phone and tell Netanyahu: "No ground troops". Shortly after, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv will be overrun by Muslims and Israel will be history. How far will Netanyahu allow this to go? If left to Obama and Jarrett, Israel is finished within 2 or 3 years max. OR, maybe....just maybe....Netanyahu being somewhat smarter than your average internet fanboy safely banging away at his keyboard in his mom's basement......realized that, at this time, a Gaza Ground-Invasion would be really, REALLY STUPID. What with Iranian centrigues and Mahmoud Abbas plans to go to the UN in about a week's time... not to mention Mohammad Morsi having some constitutional, um, disagreement with Judiciary, Legislature & SCAF... and all. But, hey, maybe Netanyahu is just a stupid "pussy" -- evidently as per the consensus of Internet Chiefs-of-General Staff. |
Dr. Acula![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 85241 11/24/2012 06:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Arabiya English ‏@AlArabiya_Eng Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586 #BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah And just who was named to oversee the cease fire? If their government is shaken up, even if by appearance only, just what chance there is no one now willing to pursue oversight of the cease fire? If the above happens, and such decision of enforcing the cease fire is pursued, how long until they decide to stretch the limits of their perceived level of "control" over Israel? Just some things to put some thought into. Very unstable times. The whole world is like a powder keg. ...just waiting for someone with a match ![]() I am a HelpTard, need Help? Ask me! Peace Means Reloading Your Guns! Some of my custom graphics are featured in the Official GLP Store: [link to www.cafepress.com] |
| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 11/24/2012 06:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Arabiya English ‏@AlArabiya_Eng Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586 #BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah And just who was named to oversee the cease fire? If their government is shaken up, even if by appearance only, just what chance there is no one now willing to pursue oversight of the cease fire? If the above happens, and such decision of enforcing the cease fire is pursued, how long until they decide to stretch the limits of their perceived level of "control" over Israel? Just some things to put some thought into. Very unstable times. The whole world is like a powder keg. ...just waiting for someone with a match ![]() I think the slow-burning fuse has already been lit. The question remains just how long is that fuse? Emergency/ Disaster Preparedness Supplies [link to mtnx.info] Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
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| Melrox User ID: 3066087 11/24/2012 08:27 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt. “Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source. [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk] |
| Corn Dog User ID: 28382472 11/24/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza Quoting: Melrox ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt. “Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source. [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk] They may have ceased fire but Israel will not stop protecting itself. I thought what Bibi did was fine. He didn't really roll over. They accomplish much during the last 6 days. They just arrested more threats to their country. Israel is doing what they need to do. I am sure Bibi got something from Clinton. He may be getting weapons, planes or who knows for agreeing to cease fire. Why don't we have any Israelis on here? |
| Melrox User ID: 3066087 11/24/2012 08:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza Quoting: Melrox ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt. “Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source. [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk] They may have ceased fire but Israel will not stop protecting itself. I thought what Bibi did was fine. He didn't really roll over. They accomplish much during the last 6 days. They just arrested more threats to their country. Israel is doing what they need to do. I am sure Bibi got something from Clinton. He may be getting weapons, planes or who knows for agreeing to cease fire. Why don't we have any Israelis on here? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28349925 11/24/2012 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Arabiya English ‏@AlArabiya_Eng Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586 #BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah Rafah is in Gaza on the Egyptian border. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It's divided to both Egypt and Gaza? |
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| ISO User ID: 26910984 11/24/2012 09:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Arabiya English ‏@AlArabiya_Eng Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586 #BreakingNews: Explosion destroys part of intelligence building in Egypt’s Rafah Rafah is in Gaza on the Egyptian border. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It's divided to both Egypt and Gaza? That is weird ....oh well....sort of like Jerusalem |
| CowgirlK User ID: 28104451 11/24/2012 10:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok...How crazy is this? Arafat body to be exhumed in murder inquiry The body of late president Yasser Arafat will be exhumed on Tuesday in an investigation to establish if he was murdered, a Palestinian official said. The Palestinians have "evidence which suggests Arafat was assassinated by Israelis," Tirawi added. Israel denies any involvement. The exhumation and renewed allegations of Israeli involvement could stir further tension between the Palestinians and Israel, which are observing a truce after a week of fierce fighting in Gaza. [link to www.maannews.net] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28359339 11/24/2012 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza Quoting: Melrox ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt. “Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source. [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk] They may have ceased fire but Israel will not stop protecting itself. I thought what Bibi did was fine. He didn't really roll over. They accomplish much during the last 6 days. They just arrested more threats to their country. Israel is doing what they need to do. I am sure Bibi got something from Clinton. He may be getting weapons, planes or who knows for agreeing to cease fire. Why don't we have any Israelis on here? Israel took out persia's missile factory in sudan and persia did nothing but cry about it. |
| ISO User ID: 26910984 11/24/2012 10:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok...How crazy is this? Quoting: CowgirlK Arafat body to be exhumed in murder inquiry The body of late president Yasser Arafat will be exhumed on Tuesday in an investigation to establish if he was murdered, a Palestinian official said. The Palestinians have "evidence which suggests Arafat was assassinated by Israelis," Tirawi added. Israel denies any involvement. The exhumation and renewed allegations of Israeli involvement could stir further tension between the Palestinians and Israel, which are observing a truce after a week of fierce fighting in Gaza. [link to www.maannews.net] They wont start firing rockets out of rage...they will try to use it after the UN bid to pursue that war crimes bs. Obviously that would look ridiculous to all but Muslims and activists. Hamas is guily of war crimes galore....but they are aware of the bias at the UN and will exploit it. We migbt see Netanyahu blow his top at that point. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28426579 11/25/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel vows to destroy Iranian rockets destined for Gaza Quoting: Melrox ISRAELI spy satellites have spotted a cargo vessel at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas being loaded with rockets and other weapons that analysts say may be bound for Gaza via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt. “Regardless of the ceasefire agreement, we will attack and destroy any shipment of arms to Gaza once we have spotted it,” said an Israeli defense source. [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk] They know where the ship is, they can track its every move, I think they'll wait until it's in international waters and then those rockets on board will go for swim ! Perhaps they will try just disabling the ship with a torpedo detonated at a certain distance or something, that way the ship will be stuck at sea and forced to seek help...and when help arrives they will discover the rockets on board ! |
| NDH User ID: 17103446 11/25/2012 02:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms Ynet |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28426579 11/25/2012 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza Quoting: NDH The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms Ynet As I've said earlier, the IDF has to sink that ship cos if ballistic missiles like the Shahab-3 are going to reach Sudan...that's really bad news for Israel ! Israel is already surrounded by enemies, and if Sudan gets those ballistic missiles it can really do some serious damage ! That ship needs to swim with the fishes very soon ! |
| taniatarn User ID: 27952170 11/25/2012 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza Quoting: NDH The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms Ynet As I've said earlier, the IDF has to sink that ship cos if ballistic missiles like the Shahab-3 are going to reach Sudan...that's really bad news for Israel ! Israel is already surrounded by enemies, and if Sudan gets those ballistic missiles it can really do some serious damage ! That ship needs to swim with the fishes very soon ! Can someone tell me ( please forgive my ignorance ) but under what Law does Israel have the right to attack this ship? If countries with Warships etc can freely move around with weapons onboard why is this ship not allowed to? (serious question...not trying to take the piss or anything...just dont understand why Iran is not allowed to transport weapons to an ally of theirs..?) Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/25/2012 03:07 AM Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28426579 11/25/2012 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone tell me ( please forgive my ignorance ) but under what Law does Israel have the right to attack this ship? Quoting: taniatarn If countries with Warships etc can freely move around with weapons onboard why is this ship not allowed to? (serious question...not trying to take the piss or anything...just dont understand why Iran is not allowed to transport weapons to an ally..?) Tania, with all do respect, you are a Palestinian supporter, you have made that perfectly clear on many occasions, so please stop trying to act impartial ! Israel is a sovereign nation and has a right to defend itself like any other nation on Earth! Let's say for a second that New Zealand was at war with Australia and Kiwi intelligence got word that a big transport of ballistic missiles are en route to Australia with the aim of being fired at NZ at some point in the future ! Wouldn't you want your country to take preemptive action to stop that ship from ever delivering those rockets to the Aussies !? It's the same think with Israel, it has the right to prevent weapons from reaching Gaza or Sudan because those weapons are going to be fired at Israeli cities in the near future ! Hamas wanted a cease fire so it can catch its breath, resupply from Iran and start the cycle all over again...Israel has the right to stop Hamas (a terrorist organization) from resupplying its weapon stash ! |
| NDH User ID: 17103446 11/25/2012 03:39 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Report: Satellite detects Iran attempt to smuggle Fajr rockets to Gaza Quoting: NDH The Sunday Times reports that while ceasefire was being negotiated, missiles were being loaded onto cargo ship docked at an Iraninan port. Israel: We will attack and destroy any shipment of arms Ynet As I've said earlier, the IDF has to sink that ship cos if ballistic missiles like the Shahab-3 are going to reach Sudan...that's really bad news for Israel ! Israel is already surrounded by enemies, and if Sudan gets those ballistic missiles it can really do some serious damage ! That ship needs to swim with the fishes very soon ! Anything to protect ! Jerusalem is considered a holy city in many religions so it must be protected so that ship must be sunk to protect it . i have said the same thing pages back also.... hamas are restocking and re educating on mistakes |
| NDH User ID: 17103446 11/25/2012 03:58 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | US aircraft carrier strikeforce readies in case of war with Iran Link: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] |
| taniatarn User ID: 27952170 11/25/2012 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone tell me ( please forgive my ignorance ) but under what Law does Israel have the right to attack this ship? Quoting: taniatarn If countries with Warships etc can freely move around with weapons onboard why is this ship not allowed to? (serious question...not trying to take the piss or anything...just dont understand why Iran is not allowed to transport weapons to an ally..?) Tania, with all do respect, you are a Palestinian supporter, you have made that perfectly clear on many occasions, so please stop trying to act impartial ! Israel is a sovereign nation and has a right to defend itself like any other nation on Earth! Let's say for a second that New Zealand was at war with Australia and Kiwi intelligence got word that a big transport of ballistic missiles are en route to Australia with the aim of being fired at NZ at some point in the future ! Wouldn't you want your country to take preemptive action to stop that ship from ever delivering those rockets to the Aussies !? It's the same think with Israel, it has the right to prevent weapons from reaching Gaza or Sudan because those weapons are going to be fired at Israeli cities in the near future ! Hamas wanted a cease fire so it can catch its breath, resupply from Iran and start the cycle all over again...Israel has the right to stop Hamas (a terrorist organization) from resupplying its weapon stash ! Just to clarify my position...Religious Extremism and everything it stands for is very frightening.No matter what the religion. I dont like war full stop...and I certainly dont side with Hamas or Islam. But I do think that there is SIGNIFICANTLY less options for the Gazan children to be protected, than the Israeli Children and as a Mother this strikes a chord deep in my heart. I side with Palestines children being able to experience freedom from the current prison they are in ( and it is a prison not just in the physical sense but also a religious prison for them as well. ) Many many MANY people do not want to be there but cannot leave. The same cannot be said for the Israeli people who can freely come and go. I realise they are also suffering from the stress of rocket fire...I do not agree with this either and do not wish missiles to all on Israel at all. I believe religion is the root of this issue...and not just Islam/Muslim Extremism. The Jewish faith is just as dangerous. Yes I would want something to be done to help prevent those rockets being fired on my country...but I would on the other hand want a Kiwi ship to make it to New Zealand with a supply that was destined for our defence. Do you see what that really means? If those weapons were bound for Israel to be fired on Gaza you would be cheering for it to get thru...and be livid if the Palestines Allies decided to illegally sink the ship... That is why I asked the question impartially cause I want to know how this stands in line with international Law...can ISrael LEGALLY destroy the ship? Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
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| taniatarn User ID: 27952170 11/25/2012 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | US aircraft carrier strikeforce readies in case of war with Iran Quoting: NDH Link: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The flagship $4.5 billion carrier, a 100,000 ton floating city with a crew of 5,000, was despatched four months earlier than planned to bolster the United States Navy's already formidable force in the region, the Fifth Fleet. Alcohol is strictly forbidden, prayers are said over the ship's intercom, and although dating is allowed - there are 600 women on board, and the average age of ratings is about 19 - "intimacy" is not. Time off is spent catching up with sleep or watching the ship's 24-hour movie channel. Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/25/2012 05:00 AM Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| JAY9000 User ID: 28151278 11/25/2012 05:18 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which flag does the ship sail under ? Surely its nation isn't going to be very happy if it was sunk and lives lost , creating yet more tension.... Quoting: JAY9000 It would have to be iranian ??? If it was , im sure they'd be damn unhappy if something happened to it ..... Or they could use another countries vessel as cover , is there a sea blockade stopping shipping into Gaza ,or like been said before , sneak to ship into egypt. This would mean the Israelis would have to check every ship into Gaza / Egypt ..which they are not going to do ... More fuel to the fire I think either way...ship blown up = DOOM, missiles enter gaza = DOOM.. Just generally DOOM.. |
| NDH User ID: 17103446 11/25/2012 05:26 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which flag does the ship sail under ? Surely its nation isn't going to be very happy if it was sunk and lives lost , creating yet more tension.... Quoting: JAY9000 It would have to be iranian ??? If it was , im sure they'd be damn unhappy if something happened to it ..... Or they could use another countries vessel as cover , is there a sea blockade stopping shipping into Gaza ,or like been said before , sneak to ship into egypt. This would mean the Israelis would have to check every ship into Gaza / Egypt ..which they are not going to do ... More fuel to the fire I think either way...ship blown up = DOOM, missiles enter gaza = DOOM.. Just generally DOOM.. Pretty much , Welcome to our future of hell |