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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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I hear sporadic gunfire on Reuters live stream or is it my imagination?
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Reuters is back again

[link to reuters.livestation.com]

Apparently Egyptian PM is on his way out of Gaza
 Quoting: taniatarn

Anything accomplished?
 Quoting: Éireann


NO not really...just words that wont amount to anything. He had to leave early because the fighting continued.
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Morning AWFEKKIT

cheers
 Quoting: DoorBert

Got me coffee, Door. You got yours? c(_)
 Quoting: Éireann


I was just looking at the foamy beer mugs, thinking about how much I miss beer.

Instead, I'll settle for the standard Egyptian coffee on offer ... Nescafe.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT

omg. You poor soul! Do you want me to send you some beer and coffee??

blink Nescafe isn't coffee! chuckle
 Quoting: Éireann


Thank you, but beer isn't a big deal and they fix Nescafe up so it's pretty tasty, actually.

In Egypt's news, the Prime Minister is asking Israel to honor its peace agreements.
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So many westerners that either learned the wrong history, or, much more close to the thruth, never learned ANY history.

There was NEVER A COUNTRY called Palestine.There was only a province OR colony, under the rule of different nations/empires.

Palestine BECOME the State of Israel, NOT because the arabs living there wanted a country...they did not, since they were ALL egyptians, jordanians, syrians, etc., but because the jews NEEDED their country BACK.

All the KINGS that ruled in the area (Palestine including, not exclusively) were JEWS.The kingdom was JEWISH.


During the wars in 47', 67' and '73, the SState of israel become stronger and larger, BUT STILL not as big as it was.
The land they captured was captured as spoils of war, and hence , is THEIR LAND.

US as a WHOLE is LAND CAPTURED BY WAR.I don't see ANYONE complaining about that.

It doen't matter NOW who was there 5,000 years ago, or 3,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago (in all cases, jews, but arab apologists will never recognize that, even if they knew it).It matters WHO IS NOW on those lands.

As a romanian, i fell bad that my country LOST 20% of their former teritory after ww2, but I am not going to ask my government to INVADE Ukraine, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary for that or to conquer the entire Moldavia for that.


Arabs in Gaza, W.B. or elswere, along with their supporters and apologists, got news for you :

ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY.
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So show me then or if not you will be shown to be FULL OF SHIT!!!

The quran says no such thing, infact the prophet Muhammad ordered Muslims to "treat the infidel better than you treat your own brother and deal fairer with them than your own brother", you Muslim bashers always try to make Islam say something it doesn't.

Here for example is how to quran commands muslims to talk to the infidel (actual word is disbeliever)

016.125 Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.

Try again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


shit bag. your book changes tone when it speaks about the end time.

the trees and rocks will tell u if a jew is hiding so you could kill em right??
 Quoting: DPS


Hey dumb fuck, that's a Hadith written 200 years after the prophet Muhammad died. No where does the quran say anything of the sort.

Shall I bring verses from the Talmud showing how all us in the west are animals, not human and only created to serve you Jews???

That's what all you Jews believe and you know it.

So all you idiots defending Israhell are defending people that see you as animals and their slaves, carry on!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
 Quoting: djdandew1


"Hey look at me, I have grabbed a bunch of nasty sounding verses from the Quran and presented them as evidence without any context or background..."

huffy
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Commanders Prepare Troops for Ground Invasion

IDF commanders began Friday morning to brief their troops in advance of a possible ground operation in Gaza. Thousands of reservists have been called up for duty, and a total of at least 16,000 will be summoned for service.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

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I'm sorry, I must have missed a post from you asking why are civilians bombed "again" 5 days ago (before the operation in Gaza started) when 200 rockets were fired into Israel...
 Quoting: 8200

I'm sorry too. I didn't post the question when I thought about it. This is my first post in the past 4 days on this thread. I'm just not grasping the strategy at all.
 Quoting: Éireann

You are right.
Living so far away is hard to see any strategy.
what Im trying to say is that people usually judge Israel in a very shallow way usually based on either their lack of knowledge of history and current events or based on deep emotions implanted by generations of prejudice.
It is also very diificult for people,living lets say in Texas,to understand what is like to run to a bomb shelter every 15 minutes with your baby on your hands and thus it is difficult for them also to understand Israel's response.
We as a nation are trying to live peacefully since 48. Unfortunately the Arabs in general and palestinians in particular are not willing to accept our presence.till they will be willing to accept us we will have to live by our sward.

Peace
 Quoting: 8200

Absolutely correct. Perspective is key. Judging a situation you don't live in is easy to do, but rarely correct. I don't live there. As close as I've gotten to real war was watching the WTC buildings implode on themselves. I can't even *begin* to imagine how anyone could live with the constant reality that a bomb could fall on them at any moment.
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11/16/2012 04:47 AM
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really hate scripture in any thread.... wrong forum dipshit.
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food for thought:"people dont die for their countries,they die because of their countries"
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really hate scripture in any thread.... wrong forum dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21174726


LOL, look at reality, what is happening if not scripture?? anyone catch Bible Battles on H2 yesterday?
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Commanders Prepare Troops for Ground Invasion

IDF commanders began Friday morning to brief their troops in advance of a possible ground operation in Gaza. Thousands of reservists have been called up for duty, and a total of at least 16,000 will be summoned for service.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

siren2
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not meaning to be an ass, but isn't this the same point we were at last night?
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I wish I knew what all of that echoing talking was about on the reuters feed.
 Quoting: Éireann


Midday prayer service maybe?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 27692282


That was the call to prayer and now what we're hearing is the message (kindof like a sermon) before the prayer.
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Whoa!

I don't give a shit what side of the fence you are on! Civilians on BOTH sides are getting bombed. That's my fucking question. Why are the civilians getting bombed?

Perhaps it is just because war has become so unconventional. No lines of troops on a field. Just bombs raining down from somewhere. I'm just looking for some way to make sense out of it.
 Quoting: Éireann


I'm sorry, I must have missed a post from you asking why are civilians bombed "again" 5 days ago (before the operation in Gaza started) when 200 rockets were fired into Israel...
 Quoting: 8200

I'm sorry too. I didn't post the question when I thought about it. This is my first post in the past 4 days on this thread. I'm just not grasping the strategy at all.
 Quoting: Éireann


You are right.
Living so far away is hard to see any strategy.
what Im trying to say is that people usually judge Israel in a very shallow way usually based on either their lack of knowledge of history and current events or based on deep emotions implanted by generations of prejudice.
It is also very diificult for people,living lets say in Texas,to understand what is like to run to a bomb shelter every 15 minutes with your baby on your hands and thus it is difficult for them also to understand Israel's response.
We as a nation are trying to live peacefully since 48. Unfortunately the Arabs in general and palestinians in particular are not willing to accept our presence.till they will be willing to accept us we will have to live by our sward.

Peace
 Quoting: 8200


You should know from 1907 til 48 you were OK. That's when although palestinians owned 92% of the land, were stripped of rights and property.

You're an invader.
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Commanders Prepare Troops for Ground Invasion

IDF commanders began Friday morning to brief their troops in advance of a possible ground operation in Gaza. Thousands of reservists have been called up for duty, and a total of at least 16,000 will be summoned for service.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

siren2
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


not meaning to be an ass, but isn't this the same point we were at last night?
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pretty much
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A kibbutz in the region lost 5,000 chickens when a rocket attack took out the town’s electricity, causing temperatures in the chicken coop to drop dangerously low.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

Chicken doom!
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really hate scripture in any thread.... wrong forum dipshit.
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LOL, look at reality, what is happening if not scripture?? anyone catch Bible Battles on H2 yesterday?
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


those that wrote scipture are now enacting it.... "HIS" story, enlightened one
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Yesterday, didn't the terrorist muzzies claim Tel Aviv would be mourning this morning or some crap?
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Reuters died again
What?
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really hate scripture in any thread.... wrong forum dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21174726


who died and made you God? LOL

If it weren't for the Jewish/Chrisitian God AND Jesus Christ, we wouldn't be sitting here watching a war about a tiny little country. Serioulsy, we wouldn't be sitting here for Morroco would we?

oops, lost live coverage again....
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I wish I knew what all of that echoing talking was about on the reuters feed.
 Quoting: Éireann


Midday prayer service maybe?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 27692282


That was the call to prayer and now what we're hearing is the message (kindof like a sermon) before the prayer.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Ah, I see.

hf

...and reuters live stream is down again :(
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really hate scripture in any thread.... wrong forum dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21174726


LOL, look at reality, what is happening if not scripture?? anyone catch Bible Battles on H2 yesterday?
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


those that wrote scipture are now enacting it.... "HIS" story, enlightened one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21174726


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Yesterday, didn't the terrorist muzzies claim Tel Aviv would be mourning this morning or some crap?
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yes, and threatened to broadcast the missile launches against Tel Aviv. Which they did - or at least posted them.
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Yesterday, didn't the terrorist muzzies claim Tel Aviv would be mourning this morning or some crap?
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Yes. "Tomorrow" is what they said.
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So many westerners that either learned the wrong history, or, much more close to the thruth, never learned ANY history.

There was NEVER A COUNTRY called Palestine.There was only a province OR colony, under the rule of different nations/empires.

Palestine BECOME the State of Israel, NOT because the arabs living there wanted a country...they did not, since they were ALL egyptians, jordanians, syrians, etc., but because the jews NEEDED their country BACK.

All the KINGS that ruled in the area (Palestine including, not exclusively) were JEWS.The kingdom was JEWISH.


During the wars in 47', 67' and '73, the SState of israel become stronger and larger, BUT STILL not as big as it was.
The land they captured was captured as spoils of war, and hence , is THEIR LAND.

US as a WHOLE is LAND CAPTURED BY WAR.I don't see ANYONE complaining about that.

It doen't matter NOW who was there 5,000 years ago, or 3,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago (in all cases, jews, but arab apologists will never recognize that, even if they knew it).It matters WHO IS NOW on those lands.

As a romanian, i fell bad that my country LOST 20% of their former teritory after ww2, but I am not going to ask my government to INVADE Ukraine, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary for that or to conquer the entire Moldavia for that.


Arabs in Gaza, W.B. or elswere, along with their supporters and apologists, got news for you :

ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY.
 Quoting: recollector


What history books have you been reading? o_O

"All the KINGS that ruled in the area (Palestine including, not exclusively) were JEWS.The kingdom was JEWISH."

So the Christian kings who ruled from Jerusalem during the Crusades and the Muslim Sultans of the Caliphate were all just figments of peoples imaginations?

"US as a WHOLE is LAND CAPTURED BY WAR.I don't see ANYONE complaining about that."

I guess the Native Americans are also a figment of someones imagination then?

DNA studies have PROVEN that the people who now identify themselves as Palestinian have been in that area going back through the ages... also that they share a common ancestry with Jewish Arabs of Israel.
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Yesterday, didn't the terrorist muzzies claim Tel Aviv would be mourning this morning or some crap?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16999455


yes, and threatened to broadcast the missile launches against Tel Aviv. Which they did - or at least posted them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23427044


One rocket landed near the theme park in Rishon L'Tzion, a suburb 9 miles south of TA. Big shock.
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I wish I knew what all of that echoing talking was about on the reuters feed.
 Quoting: Éireann


Midday prayer service maybe?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 27692282


That was the call to prayer and now what we're hearing is the message (kindof like a sermon) before the prayer.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT

Thank you, AWFEKKIT... love your nick :D
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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RT still up

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very good ,
but if not race based, then what is the hate based on?
sorry, my history is poor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26557070


religion based. our book states we must kick or kill every arab in the land in israel, and live in peace with the sorrunding arabs.

the koran states they need to kill all jew,s (and infidels) on earth
 Quoting: DPS


wow
Thats heavy.
Religion huh?

well
I respect the honesty of your answere
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26557070


I can`t seem to get past this.........

this is all
(the hate, the fighting , the killing}
based on RELIGION??????

I`m gonna have a fuckin stroke over here.

I`ve always said that religion is the

ROOT OF ALL EVIL

Wake up Religitards
its all a scam
its the ONE thing that is GUARANTEED to
separate the people of the world .

its the PERFECT CRIME

sad that so many fell for it.
even sadder in todays modern world
that so many still do
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26557070


ah, then you are the one who would be just as interested watching the hypothetical war in Morocco. I knew there was at least ONE person out there.

I wouldn't have a stroke because you hate religion, you might need someone to pray for your recovery.
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Israel bombed a new Eastern Orthodox church under construction in #Gaza, according to @pchrgaza's director.
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Reuters feed is back up

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