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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
kadidle51

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not sure if this has been posted in this thread yet.



Israel Calls up reserves. Hamas says this means all out way

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Do you all ever wonder what the Middle east would be like without Israel?

All we have gotten from that nation is trouble.

Now a possible war in the Middle east is again being started by Israel.

I hate to say it, but perhaps if Israel was relocated it would be better for everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


You cant just re-locate a country.
Think about it, you've got embedded infrastructure, government buildings, underground bases,command and control centres, and shelters, transport systems, airbases military bases, missile launch sites, nuclear and non nuclear power plants, the human population and their stuff and their cars, religious sites, cemeteries, ancient religious monuments.

To move all that is nearly impossible, to make a replica of it in another country would cost a fortune, and if you did attempt to move it all, by the time you're half way or more through the process the country becomes vulnerable to attack, and you get countries trying to march in to loot and take the land.

sorry but relocation is just a fantasy solution you've dreamed up.
Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with!
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Yes, I have a solution in mind.

Stop supporting war in the middle east, stop supporting a nation that assasinates and terrorizes.

I support regime change in Israel, As a matter a fact, they should be labeled what they are.. A terrorist state.

No aid from the USA until they start obeying UN mandates to stop settlements and the outdoor concentration camp in Palestine.

Or better yet, disband the nation.. Disband the mistake of 48. Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


Tell me, tell us all: Are you as concerned about the people on the African continent that are fleeing the Islamic extremist butchers with machetes by the hundreds of thousands every year? I NEVER hear a word from the UN or big mouths like yourself about those people. Yet MANY thousand more have died by their hands then Jews have killed Hamas members. Coin only has one side for you doesn't it?
 Quoting: In-Situ


Stupid argument on your behalf.

I dont recall my taxpayer money supporting the Islamic butchers as you say. No.. they are condemned and not supported by the USA.

Yet Israel gets a blank check for the same actions. Try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


So then this is about tax money to you? I thought you were concerned about terrorists??

The US supports the UN with butt loads of your tax dollars, but the UN, and I imagine yourself as well, could give two shits about terrorism elsewhere. You will throw whatever you can against that wall hoping something sticks for the very simple reason - you hate Jews not terrorists.
 Quoting: In-Situ


I dont hate Jews.

I hate terrorist, and Israel is a terrorist state.
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Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
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Drones are the worst weapon even created. If you want to hurt someone be a man and actually fight them! Don't just murder them with your remote control tech.....I hate this world. God help us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26075182


^^^THIS^^^

I agree with you %100 .Its sad the days of bravery and honor is long lost now...but as long as there are still uncorrupted people who still value bravery and honor like you, i wont lose my hope in mankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27737138


Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


They are willing to give their life for a cause, at least they dont kill people by pushing buttons miles away in a office.
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Drones are the worst weapon even created. If you want to hurt someone be a man and actually fight them! Don't just murder them with your remote control tech.....I hate this world. God help us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26075182


^^^THIS^^^

I agree with you %100 .Its sad the days of bravery and honor is long lost now...but as long as there are still uncorrupted people who still value bravery and honor like you, i wont lose my hope in mankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27737138


Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


How honorable is drone strikes and Missle strikes from a distance against a nation without that technology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


it would be totally dishonorable if those doing those strikes were to initiate the conflict. when you are attacked, you strike back with your best. if someone pulls a knife on you, and you have a gun, do you use it?
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Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Nope, he's right.
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I'm an Israeli (secular Jewish) citizen and I hate my government and don't support this pointless bloody escalation.

That's sickening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27752381


You think doing nothing is going to keep the rockets from falling into your living room? Think again.
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Yes, I have a solution in mind.

Stop supporting war in the middle east, stop supporting a nation that assasinates and terrorizes.

I support regime change in Israel, As a matter a fact, they should be labeled what they are.. A terrorist state.

No aid from the USA until they start obeying UN mandates to stop settlements and the outdoor concentration camp in Palestine.

Or better yet, disband the nation.. Disband the mistake of 48. Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


So, you're siding with the ones that randomly shoot rockets at civilians? Makes perfect sense.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-




You are so full of hate!

Don't you get it? The same group of people who are making war on Syria, Libya, most of North Africa and South America are also propagating this war.

As long as people are ignorant enough to blame just one side/nation and not the people who are now in control of THE WHOLE WORLD (and no, they are not all Jewish or Zionists, that is just another side of the same divide and conquer coin) then this people will win.

I am under actuall attack - there are real f***ing rockets falling in my city. 30km away there are families cowering in their homes against the retaliation and you seem to be happy about this!

I think you are SICK - neither the common people here nor in Gaza (as far as I believe) want this. We all just want to feed our families and live our lives.

And before you start to say I steal the land, my family was here for at least 550 yers that we know about. The rest were refugees from Iraq 60 years ago.

As long as you are hating Islam or hating Israelis or republicans or demacrats or the French then you are doing exactly what the global domination want, so give yourself three pats on the head and continue to be duped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435736


You sound sincere.

So let me make this clear. I am an American and I owe you nothing. Your nations actions have brought about your fears.

My advice, change your goverment and your stances and laws. Otherwise do not whine about people being angry with your nation state.

It is sad you are in the crossfire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055



Dear Mr. American,

Most Israelis do not want the money from America. However, just like how you can chose in your election between only two candidates, both of who are only puppets, so the same is for us. and those in power will always take more money.

I am not whining about people being angry with Israel, I am making the point that what nations do today is no longer decided by the nation. We have had bigger protest here in Israel than in America! People even set themselves on fire to protest the goverment here.

But if you say that Israel, the people are evil, then you are wrong. Think about the destruction that the goverment of America has bought upon the world in the last few years, but that does not mean that all Americans or even the majority are evil. Ignorant maybe, but not evil terrorists.

Many here in Israel agree that many of the decisions taken by those in power are wrong, as in your country, for example, I am sure that you did not vote for the deaths inflicted in Iraq?

This doesn't mean that I have to support other acts of terror though.

Lets face our anger to the real terrorists, those in charge of your country and mine, their friends the mullahs, in short, the leadership of most of the world who have ALL of us enslaved in debt and fear. My nation did not bring about my fear, a group of very powerful and evil people did - so please, instead of keeping a war that really does hurt people ON BOTH SIDES, lets make a war on those who started it!
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Hamas threatens to carry out suicide bombings

Gaza’s Palestinian factions threaten to ‘burn Israeli cities’ in response to assassination of top Hamas commander Al-Jabari. ‘There no more red lines,’ Islamic Jihad’s military wing says

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


They're gonna "burn israeli cities"??

How they gon' do dat yo?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26727474


How? By setting fires.

You see, setting fires is practically the national SPORT or PAST-TIME for Israeli Arabs --- whom Israel has given citeznship to, welfare, all the rights and perks (without the responsibility to serve in Israeli Army, sweet deal!)

As "thanks" Israeli Arabs set fires practically every week to see if Israel will burn down (it's hot environment, lack of water for fire-fighteing, lack of resourced to extra fire-fighting units that you have in Europe or the US)

So HAMAS will make a few phone calls, and Israel will literally be ablaze. Something along those lines.
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Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Nope, he's right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4443279


Strap up then. Do it for your country.
-GooGooFlexy-
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I'm an Israeli (secular Jewish) citizen and I hate my government and don't support this pointless bloody escalation.

That's sickening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27752381


as an israeli, what do you suggest is the best way to handle the rocket attacks? just ignore them? what would you do if you were in charge?
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Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Psychotic because I can understand how people would be willing to die for a cause? Wow. I guess it's hard to find anything other than Black Ops 2 and Cheeto's to find important in your world, then.
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More rockets fired from Gaza into Israel.
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I'm an Israeli (secular Jewish) citizen and I hate my government and don't support this pointless bloody escalation.

That's sickening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27752381


Hey all you Israeli Supporters.


LISTEN TO THIS.


Yeah, thats right, even the people of Israel dont agree with their goverment.

So whats your excuse Americans?
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Arab league to hold urgent meeting over Israeli strikes on Gaza either Thursday or Saturday - League diplomat
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Israel's Ambassador to UK on Sky News at 8 PM.
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^^^THIS^^^

I agree with you %100 .Its sad the days of bravery and honor is long lost now...but as long as there are still uncorrupted people who still value bravery and honor like you, i wont lose my hope in mankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27737138


Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


How honorable is drone strikes and Missle strikes from a distance against a nation without that technology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


it would be totally dishonorable if those doing those strikes were to initiate the conflict. when you are attacked, you strike back with your best. if someone pulls a knife on you, and you have a gun, do you use it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26810521


as if arabs dont plant IED's in the sand and hide behind a rock til it goes off when a humvee comes
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100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Nope, he's right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4443279


Strap up then. Do it for your country.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Complete difference between understanding why someone would die for a cause and actually doing it.
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So, you're siding with the ones that randomly shoot rockets at civilians? Makes perfect sense.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-




You are so full of hate!

Don't you get it? The same group of people who are making war on Syria, Libya, most of North Africa and South America are also propagating this war.

As long as people are ignorant enough to blame just one side/nation and not the people who are now in control of THE WHOLE WORLD (and no, they are not all Jewish or Zionists, that is just another side of the same divide and conquer coin) then this people will win.

I am under actuall attack - there are real f***ing rockets falling in my city. 30km away there are families cowering in their homes against the retaliation and you seem to be happy about this!

I think you are SICK - neither the common people here nor in Gaza (as far as I believe) want this. We all just want to feed our families and live our lives.

And before you start to say I steal the land, my family was here for at least 550 yers that we know about. The rest were refugees from Iraq 60 years ago.

As long as you are hating Islam or hating Israelis or republicans or demacrats or the French then you are doing exactly what the global domination want, so give yourself three pats on the head and continue to be duped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435736


You sound sincere.

So let me make this clear. I am an American and I owe you nothing. Your nations actions have brought about your fears.

My advice, change your goverment and your stances and laws. Otherwise do not whine about people being angry with your nation state.

It is sad you are in the crossfire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055



Dear Mr. American,

Most Israelis do not want the money from America. However, just like how you can chose in your election between only two candidates, both of who are only puppets, so the same is for us. and those in power will always take more money.

I am not whining about people being angry with Israel, I am making the point that what nations do today is no longer decided by the nation. We have had bigger protest here in Israel than in America! People even set themselves on fire to protest the goverment here.

But if you say that Israel, the people are evil, then you are wrong. Think about the destruction that the goverment of America has bought upon the world in the last few years, but that does not mean that all Americans or even the majority are evil. Ignorant maybe, but not evil terrorists.

Many here in Israel agree that many of the decisions taken by those in power are wrong, as in your country, for example, I am sure that you did not vote for the deaths inflicted in Iraq?

This doesn't mean that I have to support other acts of terror though.

Lets face our anger to the real terrorists, those in charge of your country and mine, their friends the mullahs, in short, the leadership of most of the world who have ALL of us enslaved in debt and fear. My nation did not bring about my fear, a group of very powerful and evil people did - so please, instead of keeping a war that really does hurt people ON BOTH SIDES, lets make a war on those who started it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16435736


We have found some agreement and common ground.

My best to you and yours.
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Russian FM called for end to violence in Gaza


[link to blogs.aljazeera.com]
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100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Nope, he's right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4443279


Strap up then. Do it for your country.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Luckily we're not in an armed conflict.
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Where is Bruno when you need him ? Pita bread is the real enemy here.

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I'm an Israeli (secular Jewish) citizen and I hate my government and don't support this pointless bloody escalation.

That's sickening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27752381


So, you enjoy those "pointless" rockets hitting your neighbor's house, just not you or your loved ones - right? I can see your pointless point.
In-Situ
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Fuck off. How honourable are suicide bombers? You can't get lower than that.
 Quoting: Cisco Mickey


100% disagree. If you're willing to give your life for your country, that's the greatest honor; not to yourself, to your country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Psychotic because I can understand how people would be willing to die for a cause? Wow. I guess it's hard to find anything other than Black Ops 2 and Cheeto's to find important in your world, then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21963830


You're condoning suicide bombings...
I have nothing else to say to you.
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I hate terrorist, and Israel is a terrorist state.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


Yeah, because Israeli suicide bombers and hijackers are constantly murdering people, right?

You godamned moron.
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Haniyeh said he calls our Arab brothers, especially Egypt and the new Egyptian presidency to put an end to a brutal campaign in defense of Gaza and its people.

Haniyeh called for an urgent summit of the Arab League to confront the Israeli aggression.
[link to aswatmasriya.com]
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I'm an Israeli (secular Jewish) citizen and I hate my government and don't support this pointless bloody escalation.

That's sickening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27752381


So, you enjoy those "pointless" rockets hitting your neighbor's house, just not you or your loved ones - right? I can see your pointless point.
 Quoting: In-Situ


I think you're a little too thick to understand what he was saying.
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You're psychotic.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Nope, he's right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4443279


Strap up then. Do it for your country.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Luckily we're not in an armed conflict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4443279


You don't need one.
[link to news.yahoo.com]

Just Google "suicide bombers". Enjoy.
-GooGooFlexy-
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Barak: most of Hamas' Fajr missiles destroyed [link to www.ynetnews.com]

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