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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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some of those explosions were being looped
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
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yeah. i was told that last night on here.
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I've just seen this tweet :
19:07 18/11/2012 IDF sources report first troops enter the Gaza Strip

Any confirmation or link about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19124876


Don't see anything on their twitter.

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What about troop deployed by the navy, on the beaches, while others enter by road?
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Israel intends to do the rest of the non Jews exactly what they're trying to do to the Palestinians right now.

The harvest of Israel is war.
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Dude that's like...like..so profound, OMGAWD
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unless im hearing a different stream, doesnt sound like an echo.. I hear the fire and then the strike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1265632


same here, 4 initial shots, few seconds later 4 booms, i cant remember hearing the earlier strikes echo
 Quoting: Fuck-Goofs


was told last night they are rounds from a ship in the sea behind the cam, and the quieter bangs are the impacts where the shells land. then someone else said the loud bangs are the impacts, and the quiet bangs are the sounds of the firing of them catching up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27946797


i see, good to know tyvm!
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In the thread title it said "Obama agrees" (with blowing Gaza back to the middle ages).

Actually, Obama personally phoned Netanyahu and warned him not to invade Gaza.

To me that sounds like a threat, not a message of support for wiping Gaza off the map". By the way, does that last one sound familiar..?
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Anybody know what actually really started this? Why Hamas started shooting the rockets at Israel?

Something about a blockade?
 Quoting: TheDude99


There was an ceasefire agreement between Hamas and Likud, and in the case of hostilities for some other reason, ie. by Islamic Jihad or someone else, that the retaliation would be limited to those groups. Israel broke that agreement when they attacked and killed Hamas military leader. Retaliation by Hamas soon followed...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Ok, thanks. So it sounds like Israel started this?
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In the thread title it said "Obama agrees" (with blowing Gaza back to the middle ages).

Actually, Obama personally phoned Netanyahu and warned him not to invade Gaza.

To me that sounds like a threat, not a message of support for wiping Gaza off the map". By the way, does that last one sound familiar..?
 Quoting: The Tauremini


Sounds like what Iran said to Israel.
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Wolf Blitzer just tweeted this:


I'm now in Israel & will join @GaryTuchmanCNN at top of hour w/ @AndersonCooper in Gaza. Watch @CNN for latest developments.

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In the thread title it said "Obama agrees" (with blowing Gaza back to the middle ages).

Actually, Obama personally phoned Netanyahu and warned him not to invade Gaza.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


link?
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unless im hearing a different stream, doesnt sound like an echo.. I hear the fire and then the strike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1265632


same here, 4 initial shots, few seconds later 4 booms, i cant remember hearing the earlier strikes echo
 Quoting: Fuck-Goofs


was told last night they are rounds from a ship in the sea behind the cam, and the quieter bangs are the impacts where the shells land. then someone else said the loud bangs are the impacts, and the quiet bangs are the sounds of the firing of them catching up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27946797


"then someone else said the loud bangs are the impacts, and the quiet bangs are the sounds of the firing of them catching up."

Correct answer. From the Cam's point of view.

If we were on the ship, it's the other way around.
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Those people in Gaza must have a hard time sleeping whit the consant drone sound and shelling.
Do you know what kind of creature waits for it's own slaughtet ?, Sheep.
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Yes, Israel murdered another Palestinian kid, shot him while he was play ball....
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
 Quoting: my 2 cents


Depends where the mic is located, but yes, offcourse!
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unless im hearing a different stream, doesnt sound like an echo.. I hear the fire and then the strike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1265632


same here, 4 initial shots, few seconds later 4 booms, i cant remember hearing the earlier strikes echo
 Quoting: Fuck-Goofs


was told last night they are rounds from a ship in the sea behind the cam, and the quieter bangs are the impacts where the shells land. then someone else said the loud bangs are the impacts, and the quiet bangs are the sounds of the firing of them catching up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27946797


i see, good to know tyvm!
 Quoting: Fuck-Goofs


That was a joke. A variant of something called the "Opposite Russian prank" or something

The first louder bangs are the ship firing. The quieter follow up sounds are the shells hitting buildings.
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
Can someone post a Gaza feed compatible with apple
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Wolf Blitzer just tweeter this:


I'm now in Israel & will join @GaryTuchmanCNN at top of hour w/ @AndersonCooper in Gaza. Watch @CNN for latest developments.
 Quoting: Codfish


Guess they are talking it seriously, 5 days in...
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In the thread title it said "Obama agrees" (with blowing Gaza back to the middle ages).

Actually, Obama personally phoned Netanyahu and warned him not to invade Gaza.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


From what i see its preferably not to invade.

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Can someone post a Gaza feed compatible with apple
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They all are but not on an IPad, at least not for me
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And in the morning peoples were talking about "doom off"..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27988922


IDF has the night advantage. Same thing these past days/nights.
 Quoting: Taking Suggestions


Of course they do, not many Hamas terrorists have night vision goggles and their rockets don't have auto-lock-on capabilities so they're pretty much blind at night !

On the other hand IAF jets and drones have night vision, heat vision, infrared and laser guided munitions !
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Anybody know what actually really started this? Why Hamas started shooting the rockets at Israel?

Something about a blockade?
 Quoting: TheDude99


There was an ceasefire agreement between Hamas and Likud, and in the case of hostilities for some other reason, ie. by Islamic Jihad or someone else, that the retaliation would be limited to those groups. Israel broke that agreement when they attacked and killed Hamas military leader. Retaliation by Hamas soon followed...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Ok, thanks. So it sounds like Israel started this?
 Quoting: TheDude99


I would say so, at least with Hamas. But I think they wouldnt have escalated it unless they had a larger objective in mind, re smuggling tunnels.
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Can someone post a Gaza feed compatible with apple
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One of these might work

Thread: All live feeds for Gaza/Israel Latest update 2:32AM EST Dec 3rd: ---Share your live feed links---
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I just got home from work...Did I miss much?
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newsflash

Nothing is happening this has been going on for over 40 years in that area yawn
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Can someone post a Gaza feed compatible with apple
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25049740


They all are but not on an IPad, at least not for me
 Quoting: littlemiracles


The ustream one works on ipad
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
 Quoting: my 2 cents


Depends where the mic is located, but yes, offcourse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


It's not happening. The first sound is the ship. You can hear the mechanical movements of the cannons if you listen. The first round of sounds is always uniform. The sounds of them landing are not uniform because targets are at varying distances from ship.
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The ground invasion will be the beginning of the end of the war. It won't last much longer than that.

Israel will take a few weeks to go in and clean up. There will be some casualties for their soldiers.

Hamas will make sure children and women are killed. That is their priority. Kill the children and parade them in front of the cameras. Look what Israel has done to our children.

Dog and pony show for Hamas. They breed children to kill them. All for show. Disgusting humans.

The ground offensive will piss off the regional leaders even more. They will parade in front of cameras and make demands. They will make threats. They will do nothing. Bank on that as fact.

The bigger story is that this is likely the first operation. Israel had to clean up the southern border before they attack Iran. Most likely that will happen next year. Assuming Israel can't handle it through cyber-warfare or inside operations. Hard to say.

Russia and China won't do anything when Iran is attacked. Their goal is to make money. Russia can't wait until Iran is hit. Once they are hit then Russia can resell them supplies and equipment. Russia and China will make billions off of Israel bombing Iran.

Behind closed doors most in the Middle East are waiting for Israel to attack Iran. Most in the Middle East do not want Iran to become top dog. They don't want them to have nukes. They will say in front of the cameras that they want Israel to be destroyed. Behind closed doors, however, they want Israel to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities.

This is all a dog and pony show.

The ground operations are no big deal. Gaza will return to normal soon enough.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


Agreed.
 Quoting: Hardwired


Sounds like a whole lot of bullcrap to me.


I mean, is this guy some sort of insider? NO he isn't, he's just making personal assumptions and can't even back them up.


Russia won't allow Iran to fall. I'm going to laugh at everyone who foolishly said otherwise when Russia joins in on the fun and their troops start moving toward the mideast. ohyeah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27973697


Watch and learn. You will see. Wishing for a bigger war isn't going to make it happen.

I can't imagine what most of you would have been posting during WWI and WWII. I am sure most in here would have melted down in the early stages. Every war is the end of the world according to some.

You are wrong. Russia is in this to make money. They couldn't care less about Iran. It is all about the money.

This particular skirmish with Gaza is typical for Israel. It has happened before and will happen again. Israel knows how to clean house - when she wants to clean house.

This is no different and it will not escalate beyond their control.

I don't know why people think "this time" will be different. Nobody cares about Gaza. Nobody is going to help them. A wider war will not develop from this event.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


BAM!


right on the money.

They are only IN IT for the CASHOLA.


^

same thing with Syria. You know why? because they have investments and defense contracts
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...

Some one said it was the Israeli Navy? I have to find a map of this Israel/Gaza place. I don't know where anything is.
 Quoting: Éireann


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 Quoting: ISO

I'm sorry I'm so ignorant of all of this, ISO, but my life has been focused on other things that are of more importance to me. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until recently how much this Israel/Gaza thing is going to affect us all. Benghazi woke me up a bit.

This is my husband's realm of interest.
 Quoting: Éireann


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Nice Map! TY for sharing banana2
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I just got home from work...Did I miss much?
 Quoting: stormygirl


Intense naval shelling, just a moment ago. Lot of drones.


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