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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Can someone post a Gaza feed compatible with apple
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They all are but not on an IPad, at least not for me
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The ustream one works on ipad
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
 Quoting: my 2 cents


Depends where the mic is located, but yes, offcourse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


It's not happening. The first sound is the ship. You can hear the mechanical movements of the cannons if you listen. The first round of sounds is always uniform. The sounds of them landing are not uniform because targets are at varying distances from ship.
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The ground invasion will be the beginning of the end of the war. It won't last much longer than that.

Israel will take a few weeks to go in and clean up. There will be some casualties for their soldiers.

Hamas will make sure children and women are killed. That is their priority. Kill the children and parade them in front of the cameras. Look what Israel has done to our children.

Dog and pony show for Hamas. They breed children to kill them. All for show. Disgusting humans.

The ground offensive will piss off the regional leaders even more. They will parade in front of cameras and make demands. They will make threats. They will do nothing. Bank on that as fact.

The bigger story is that this is likely the first operation. Israel had to clean up the southern border before they attack Iran. Most likely that will happen next year. Assuming Israel can't handle it through cyber-warfare or inside operations. Hard to say.

Russia and China won't do anything when Iran is attacked. Their goal is to make money. Russia can't wait until Iran is hit. Once they are hit then Russia can resell them supplies and equipment. Russia and China will make billions off of Israel bombing Iran.

Behind closed doors most in the Middle East are waiting for Israel to attack Iran. Most in the Middle East do not want Iran to become top dog. They don't want them to have nukes. They will say in front of the cameras that they want Israel to be destroyed. Behind closed doors, however, they want Israel to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities.

This is all a dog and pony show.

The ground operations are no big deal. Gaza will return to normal soon enough.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


Agreed.
 Quoting: Hardwired


Sounds like a whole lot of bullcrap to me.


I mean, is this guy some sort of insider? NO he isn't, he's just making personal assumptions and can't even back them up.


Russia won't allow Iran to fall. I'm going to laugh at everyone who foolishly said otherwise when Russia joins in on the fun and their troops start moving toward the mideast. ohyeah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27973697


Watch and learn. You will see. Wishing for a bigger war isn't going to make it happen.

I can't imagine what most of you would have been posting during WWI and WWII. I am sure most in here would have melted down in the early stages. Every war is the end of the world according to some.

You are wrong. Russia is in this to make money. They couldn't care less about Iran. It is all about the money.

This particular skirmish with Gaza is typical for Israel. It has happened before and will happen again. Israel knows how to clean house - when she wants to clean house.

This is no different and it will not escalate beyond their control.

I don't know why people think "this time" will be different. Nobody cares about Gaza. Nobody is going to help them. A wider war will not develop from this event.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


BAM!


right on the money.

They are only IN IT for the CASHOLA.


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same thing with Syria. You know why? because they have investments and defense contracts
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Some one said it was the Israeli Navy? I have to find a map of this Israel/Gaza place. I don't know where anything is.
 Quoting: Éireann


walterlook
 Quoting: ISO

I'm sorry I'm so ignorant of all of this, ISO, but my life has been focused on other things that are of more importance to me. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until recently how much this Israel/Gaza thing is going to affect us all. Benghazi woke me up a bit.

This is my husband's realm of interest.
 Quoting: Éireann


[link to www.google.fr]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19124876




Nice Map! TY for sharing banana2
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I just got home from work...Did I miss much?
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Intense naval shelling, just a moment ago. Lot of drones.
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newsflash

Nothing is happening this has been going on for over 40 years in that area yawn
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not that intense and no rocket has ever reached tel aviv or jerusalem before.

if you have counterevidence please provide alink.
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:walterlook:
 Quoting: ISO

I'm sorry I'm so ignorant of all of this, ISO, but my life has been focused on other things that are of more importance to me. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until recently how much this Israel/Gaza thing is going to affect us all. Benghazi woke me up a bit.

This is my husband's realm of interest.
 Quoting: Éireann


[link to www.google.fr]
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Nice Map! TY for sharing banana2
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


You're welcome.
hf
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walterlook
 Quoting: ISO

I'm sorry I'm so ignorant of all of this, ISO, but my life has been focused on other things that are of more importance to me. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until recently how much this Israel/Gaza thing is going to affect us all. Benghazi woke me up a bit.

This is my husband's realm of interest.
 Quoting: Éireann


[link to www.google.fr]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19124876




Nice Map! TY for sharing banana2
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


Yes, thanks!
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newsflash

Nothing is happening this has been going on for over 40 years in that area yawn
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In the thread title it said "Obama agrees" (with blowing Gaza back to the middle ages).

Actually, Obama personally phoned Netanyahu and warned him not to invade Gaza.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


From what i see its preferably not to invade.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Dapurps


Thank you,,, there still negotiating in Egypt, all interested parties including the US.
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Anybody know what actually really started this? Why Hamas started shooting the rockets at Israel?

Something about a blockade?
 Quoting: TheDude99


There was an ceasefire agreement between Hamas and Likud, and in the case of hostilities for some other reason, ie. by Islamic Jihad or someone else, that the retaliation would be limited to those groups. Israel broke that agreement when they attacked and killed Hamas military leader. Retaliation by Hamas soon followed...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Ok, thanks. So it sounds like Israel started this?
 Quoting: TheDude99


I would say so, at least with Hamas. But I think they wouldnt have escalated it unless they had a larger objective in mind, re smuggling tunnels.
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Ok, interesting. Thanks.
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
 Quoting: my 2 cents


Depends where the mic is located, but yes, offcourse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


It's not happening. The first sound is the ship. You can hear the mechanical movements of the cannons if you listen. The first round of sounds is always uniform. The sounds of them landing are not uniform because targets are at varying distances from ship.
 Quoting: ISO


So which is closer to the cam? The target or the ship?

The first sound is going to be whatever is closer to a given location. Be it the launch or the impact.
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A liberal has studied at a university for a whole year.

Whoop-dee-freaking-do.

Your conclusion has been dictated for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27975835


Clearly since you wrote your thesis on the topic it makes you an expert.
 Quoting: Junie


Sarcasm.
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Jealous? Research and study is not something to frown upon,,, I respect the common man and woman, but normal people aspire to educate themselves in all things that interest them. To knock down those simply because you dont shows a distinct lack of character...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Mexican dolt,

Some of us have studied this year after year for a lifetime...
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
 Quoting: my 2 cents


Depends where the mic is located, but yes, offcourse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


It's not happening. The first sound is the ship. You can hear the mechanical movements of the cannons if you listen. The first round of sounds is always uniform. The sounds of them landing are not uniform because targets are at varying distances from ship.
 Quoting: ISO

Yes, now that you mention it I can tell the landings weren't as perfectly timed
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and don't consider a college kids one year review particularly significant or persuausive...
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fuckin cockerel now
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I've just been to another site after googling harry, and they have ustream embedded like we embed youtube videos. Perhaps Trinity can embed ustream here.

Have link but may be banned
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I'm sorry I'm so ignorant of all of this, ISO, but my life has been focused on other things that are of more importance to me. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until recently how much this Israel/Gaza thing is going to affect us all. Benghazi woke me up a bit.

This is my husband's realm of interest.
 Quoting: Éireann


[link to www.google.fr]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19124876




Nice Map! TY for sharing banana2
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


You're welcome.
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19124876


Of course this map of Gaza from 2003 shows Israeli settlements in Gaza which don't exist anymore because Israel pulled all of their citizens out of Gaza in 2005.
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Agreed.
 Quoting: Hardwired


Sounds like a whole lot of bullcrap to me.


I mean, is this guy some sort of insider? NO he isn't, he's just making personal assumptions and can't even back them up.


Russia won't allow Iran to fall. I'm going to laugh at everyone who foolishly said otherwise when Russia joins in on the fun and their troops start moving toward the mideast. ohyeah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27973697


Watch and learn. You will see. Wishing for a bigger war isn't going to make it happen.

I can't imagine what most of you would have been posting during WWI and WWII. I am sure most in here would have melted down in the early stages. Every war is the end of the world according to some.

You are wrong. Russia is in this to make money. They couldn't care less about Iran. It is all about the money.

This particular skirmish with Gaza is typical for Israel. It has happened before and will happen again. Israel knows how to clean house - when she wants to clean house.

This is no different and it will not escalate beyond their control.

I don't know why people think "this time" will be different. Nobody cares about Gaza. Nobody is going to help them. A wider war will not develop from this event.
 Quoting: endoftimes101


BAM!


right on the money.

They are only IN IT for the CASHOLA.


^

same thing with Syria. You know why? because they have investments and defense contracts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15242038



What if they want it to escalate?


What if WW3 was engineered a long time ago at some secret meeting, like WW1 and WW2? 5a
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Why RT isn't installing an image intensifier on the camera? The place is spooky in complete darkness!
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
Confirmed? RT @SafaJoudeh: Initial reports of 3 #Israel -is killed in Keryat Malakhi in rocket strike moments ago #Gaza

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

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[link to english.alarabiya.net]

Morocco moves to set up military field hospital in Gaza.
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I've just been to another site after googling harry, and they have ustream embedded like we embed youtube videos. Perhaps Trinity can embed ustream here.

Have link but may be banned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17543926


bump
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Just a question here for anyone with some knowledge on the subject:
Is it possible that we are hearing the shells land before we hear them being fired? Since the shells are traveling faster than the speed of sound?
 Quoting: my 2 cents


Depends where the mic is located, but yes, offcourse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


It's not happening. The first sound is the ship. You can hear the mechanical movements of the cannons if you listen. The first round of sounds is always uniform. The sounds of them landing are not uniform because targets are at varying distances from ship.
 Quoting: ISO


So which is closer to the cam? The target or the ship?

The first sound is going to be whatever is closer to a given location. Be it the launch or the impact.
 Quoting: Taking Suggestions


the ship is closer than most if not all of these targets to the microphone.
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Why RT isn't installing an image intensifier on the camera? The place is spooky in complete darkness!
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It wasn't like that on the first night. That's all blackout now. ;)
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Now I am suspicious.. on Hair Balls feed to the right is 3 hours of audio from last night. Just listened about 1/2 hour in and the drones are going with dogs barking. Then just now it started on the LIVE feed...hmmmmm
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Now I am suspicious.. on Hair Balls feed to the right is 3 hours of audio from last night. Just listened about 1/2 hour in and the drones are going with dogs barking. Then just now it started on the LIVE feed...hmmmmm
 Quoting: littlemiracles


Not saying it's fake, just curious
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Confirmed? RT @SafaJoudeh: Initial reports of 3 #Israel -is killed in Keryat Malakhi in rocket strike moments ago #Gaza

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Ger_reG


bump
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Doggies barking again. We know what that means. BOOOOM!
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newsflash

Nothing is happening this has been going on for over 40 years in that area yawn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27880824


Then why bother being on the thread?
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