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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
tarfonwxx

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Car in Jerusalem runs over two cops, incident under investigation

Red alert Sderot
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I think they're calling 36 hours "hours, not days", since technically, that's less than 2 days. Sounds more ominous that way, no?

One of the Sderot rocket hits may be what just landed relatively near the Reuters camera location. Didn't someone say earlier that they were filming from there (when they were panning to the left to show the ACPs)?
 Quoting: Eugenia

Yes.

There goes the voices again. Must be rockets
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Rocket intercept!
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It's Sderot on reuters live ?
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I thought someone posted Sderot as the location of the Reuters cam. They were saying it would be easy to figure out where those military vehicles were situated for someone who knows the area and that Reuters should be careful about filming them like that...

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anyone got a live cam from gaza with sound?
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not even sure what i'm watching but here's one

[link to www.ustream.tv]
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Rocket intercept!
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[link to reuters.livestation.com]
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here are 3 live feed that are working


[link to rt.com]

[link to reuters.livestation.com]

[link to www.ustream.tv]
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Holy crap! They just showed a rocket intercept on reuters cam
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

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Rocket intercept!
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738

Wasn't that cool?

I know. Now is not the time to go "geek", but still.
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Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Does the ground invasion REALLY mean all out war in middle east? They may ignore it, if it goes quick atleast...
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I think a ground invasion would complicate things alot.
But a full out war in the ME depends on respon from the north and Hesbollah. And offcource Egypt stance when SHTF.
If something would happen in Sinai, with any military conflict between Egypt and Israel, we would have a full blow ME doom situation. Never forgett Iran running the show in the background.
I would give it a 30% chance for a full blown conflict.
But for the world economy and everything else, hope they solve it peacfully.

hf
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Likud is targeting known intl press buildings. And civilian houses. They're nuts.
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anyone got a live cam from gaza with sound?
 Quoting: BrotherNature


not even sure what i'm watching but here's one

[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx

thank you
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Rocket intercept!
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738

Wasn't that cool?

I know. Now is not the time to go "geek", but still.
 Quoting: Éireann


Yes. :p

It seems that their missile defence system works rather efficiently.

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Does the ground invasion REALLY mean all out war in middle east? They may ignore it, if it goes quick atleast...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27631231


I think a ground invasion would complicate things alot.
But a full out war in the ME depends on respon from the north and Hesbollah. And offcource Egypt stance when SHTF.
If something would happen in Sinai, with any military conflict between Egypt and Israel, we would have a full blow ME doom situation. Never forgett Iran running the show in the background.
I would give it a 30% chance for a full blown conflict.
But for the world economy and everything else, hope they solve it peacfully.

hf
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It's you. I got banned AGAIN...
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RT feed

Tanks seen
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Does the ground invasion REALLY mean all out war in middle east? They may ignore it, if it goes quick atleast...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27631231


I think a ground invasion would complicate things alot.
But a full out war in the ME depends on respon from the north and Hesbollah. And offcource Egypt stance when SHTF.
If something would happen in Sinai, with any military conflict between Egypt and Israel, we would have a full blow ME doom situation. Never forgett Iran running the show in the background.
I would give it a 30% chance for a full blown conflict.
But for the world economy and everything else, hope they solve it peacfully.

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


It's you. I got banned AGAIN...
 Quoting: ~ProudZionist~ 27631231


???????????

What do you mean
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Does the ground invasion REALLY mean all out war in middle east? They may ignore it, if it goes quick atleast...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27631231


I think a ground invasion would complicate things alot.
But a full out war in the ME depends on respon from the north and Hesbollah. And offcource Egypt stance when SHTF.
If something would happen in Sinai, with any military conflict between Egypt and Israel, we would have a full blow ME doom situation. Never forgett Iran running the show in the background.
I would give it a 30% chance for a full blown conflict.
But for the world economy and everything else, hope they solve it peacfully.

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


It's you. I got banned AGAIN...
 Quoting: ~ProudZionist~ 27631231


???????????

What do you mean
 Quoting: Limpan

I was the one that posted I was back after being banned again blah blah. I got banned like 3 times
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I think a ground invasion would complicate things alot.
But a full out war in the ME depends on respon from the north and Hesbollah. And offcource Egypt stance when SHTF.
If something would happen in Sinai, with any military conflict between Egypt and Israel, we would have a full blow ME doom situation. Never forgett Iran running the show in the background.
I would give it a 30% chance for a full blown conflict.
But for the world economy and everything else, hope they solve it peacfully.

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


It's you. I got banned AGAIN...
 Quoting: ~ProudZionist~ 27631231


???????????

What do you mean
 Quoting: Limpan

I was the one that posted I was back after being banned again blah blah. I got banned like 3 times
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27631231


Right now???

bump
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Incoming?

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Sirens in Sderot, rocket hit (eyewitness)
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


If this was a Hamas rocket attack, and I assume it was, doesn't this breach Israel's ultimatum?

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 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


the ultimatum is for hamas to agree to israel's terms for a ceasefire, or face escalation; the rockets and IAF attacks continue in the meantime..

According to reports in Cairo, these are the conditions for a ceasefire set forth by Israel:

1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.

2. An immediate cessation of arms smuggling and the transfer of weapons to Gaza.

3. Cessation of rocket fire on the part of all armed Palestinian factions and an end to attacks on soldiers near the Gaza border.

4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

5. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt will remain open, but the crossings on the Gaza-Israel border will remain closed.

6. Egypt's politicians, headed by President Mohammed Morsi, will be the guarantors of any ceasefire agreement. Meaning, the agreement will be backed by Egypt's political echelon rather than by its security establishment.

[link to www.ynetnews.com]

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Car in Jerusalem runs over two cops, incident under investigation

Red alert Sderot
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


I think we will se lots of these individuals doing stuff like that. Solo-style terrorist actions. Suicide attacks and shit is what will come for the Israelians inside Israel. It's just waiting for the first big "hit" like Hamas would call these "surprise" actions by their sleeping cells.

And with all these rockets from Iran getting launched from Gaza, and the Iron-dome system not intercepting them all it might as well happen that the Nuclear-plant of Israel gets hit. Imagine what that would mean?!?!

A full-out all-in regional war that could actually lead into what most of the doom-loving people here on GLP have been waiting for... World War III

That is not a good thing!!

And somehow I just know that nobody is going to fix it this time, because it is like a prophecy that is fullfillin' itself. Maybe this is just what we people get, for the fact that some of us people actually wished for something like this to happen.

:(
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if only hamas had sophisticated portable surface to air missiles. they would have destroyed lots and lots of f-16's. such a shame. hamas already fired 40 rockets into israel this morning, despite the brutal air pounding from last night. idf objectives have not been met. just end this silly campaign.
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[link to www.sfgate.com]

Matter of hours, means 36 hours i think

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It's you. I got banned AGAIN...
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???????????

What do you mean
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I was the one that posted I was back after being banned again blah blah. I got banned like 3 times
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27631231


Right now???

bump
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yeah lol. I asked a mod why but all my posts were just deleted
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Matter of hours, means 36 hours i think

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 Quoting: Limpan


Steinitz said hours, not days. Tonight or tomorrow night (notwithstanding BS ceasefire to push it off further)
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Incoming?

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 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


Sirens in Sderot, rocket hit (eyewitness)
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


If this was a Hamas rocket attack, and I assume it was, doesn't this breach Israel's ultimatum?

hiding
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


the ultimatum is for hamas to agree to israel's terms for a ceasefire, or face escalation; the rockets and IAF attacks continue in the meantime..

According to reports in Cairo, these are the conditions for a ceasefire set forth by Israel:

1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.

2. An immediate cessation of arms smuggling and the transfer of weapons to Gaza.

3. Cessation of rocket fire on the part of all armed Palestinian factions and an end to attacks on soldiers near the Gaza border.

4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

5. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt will remain open, but the crossings on the Gaza-Israel border will remain closed.

6. Egypt's politicians, headed by President Mohammed Morsi, will be the guarantors of any ceasefire agreement. Meaning, the agreement will be backed by Egypt's political echelon rather than by its security establishment.

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Thanks for that.
LOL
Do you think Hams will accept that?
I don't think so my friend. Nothing about Hamas accepting Israel as a state??

hf
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all ceasefire talk is being used to prepare for what's coming, i am a pessimist when it comes to this part of the world, G-d be with all the innocents hf
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What do you mean
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I was the one that posted I was back after being banned again blah blah. I got banned like 3 times
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27631231


Right now???

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


yeah lol. I asked a mod why but all my posts were just deleted
 Quoting: ~ProudZionist~ 27631231


Did you have enough karma points to get back online again?

hf
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I was just watching polish MSM, and expert said: If Israel invades Gaza, then there's a huge possibility Hezbollah will open the second front.

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 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


Sirens in Sderot, rocket hit (eyewitness)
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


If this was a Hamas rocket attack, and I assume it was, doesn't this breach Israel's ultimatum?

hiding
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


the ultimatum is for hamas to agree to israel's terms for a ceasefire, or face escalation; the rockets and IAF attacks continue in the meantime..

According to reports in Cairo, these are the conditions for a ceasefire set forth by Israel:

1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.

2. An immediate cessation of arms smuggling and the transfer of weapons to Gaza.

3. Cessation of rocket fire on the part of all armed Palestinian factions and an end to attacks on soldiers near the Gaza border.

4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

5. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt will remain open, but the crossings on the Gaza-Israel border will remain closed.

6. Egypt's politicians, headed by President Mohammed Morsi, will be the guarantors of any ceasefire agreement. Meaning, the agreement will be backed by Egypt's political echelon rather than by its security establishment.

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Interesting. thanks...
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There is no good time for a conflict in the Middle East, but this could arguably be one of the worst in memory — and all the players know that.

Despite the rumours of a possible, Egypt-brokered truce between Israel and Hamas, there are far more concrete signs — like the tens of thousands of Israeli troops massing at Gaza's border, not to mention the continuing barrage of rockets launched by militants in Gaza into new Israeli territory — that this could go on for some time.

A ground invasion would no doubt stretch the crisis for weeks. Yet even without that, this conflict can fester, and the longer it does the more likely it is to shake up an already destabilized region.

There is so much in this fight that recalls the last one in 2008-2009. As that ended, one Barack Obama was days from being inaugurated as U.S. president. An Israeli election loomed. Both sides — Israel and Hamas — were certain another round would eventually follow.

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