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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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There is no good time for a conflict in the Middle East, but this could arguably be one of the worst in memory — and all the players know that.

Despite the rumours of a possible, Egypt-brokered truce between Israel and Hamas, there are far more concrete signs — like the tens of thousands of Israeli troops massing at Gaza's border, not to mention the continuing barrage of rockets launched by militants in Gaza into new Israeli territory — that this could go on for some time.

A ground invasion would no doubt stretch the crisis for weeks. Yet even without that, this conflict can fester, and the longer it does the more likely it is to shake up an already destabilized region.

There is so much in this fight that recalls the last one in 2008-2009. As that ended, one Barack Obama was days from being inaugurated as U.S. president. An Israeli election loomed. Both sides — Israel and Hamas — were certain another round would eventually follow.

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More explosions on reuters...

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I was just watching polish MSM, and expert said: If Israel invades Gaza, then there's a huge possibility Hezbollah will open the second front.

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I think it's more then a 50% chance for that

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SHTF situation
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11/19/2012 05:23 AM
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neither public on either side supports a ceasefire, whatever that means. there has been no lull in rocket fire since israel pulled out in '05.

not to mention, why did they pull out in the first place? some nasty interests behind the scenes in this region who profit from ridiculous non-solutions to this conflict. the only way out of this is if someone in israel wakes up and takes it into their own hands. even the arabs would have it better under a strong israel ruled by the good ones who have not been corrupted by foreign interests.
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11/19/2012 05:24 AM
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I was just watching polish MSM, and expert said: If Israel invades Gaza, then there's a huge possibility Hezbollah will open the second front.

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YIKES..seems like Poles say it like it is hf
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Sirens in Sderot, rocket hit (eyewitness)
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If this was a Hamas rocket attack, and I assume it was, doesn't this breach Israel's ultimatum?

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the ultimatum is for hamas to agree to israel's terms for a ceasefire, or face escalation; the rockets and IAF attacks continue in the meantime..

According to reports in Cairo, these are the conditions for a ceasefire set forth by Israel:

1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.

2. An immediate cessation of arms smuggling and the transfer of weapons to Gaza.

3. Cessation of rocket fire on the part of all armed Palestinian factions and an end to attacks on soldiers near the Gaza border.

4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

5. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt will remain open, but the crossings on the Gaza-Israel border will remain closed.

6. Egypt's politicians, headed by President Mohammed Morsi, will be the guarantors of any ceasefire agreement. Meaning, the agreement will be backed by Egypt's political echelon rather than by its security establishment.

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Thanks for that.
LOL
Do you think Hams will accept that?
I don't think so my friend. Nothing about Hamas accepting Israel as a state??

hf
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Already, it seems, Hamas' demands have been incorporated by these counter demands above. But Israel is demanding much more....
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I was the one that posted I was back after being banned again blah blah. I got banned like 3 times
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Right now???

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yeah lol. I asked a mod why but all my posts were just deleted
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Did you have enough karma points to get back online again?

hf
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lol no. I am using some stupid software on a different computer to get here. I honestly don't know why I was banned so many times, perhaps posting irrelevant things like this is one of them
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11/19/2012 05:26 AM

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News coming in true twitter
No link on this

@crispiandjb: Re #Gaza: Italian foreign minister in Brussels says “I believe there are the conditions to quickly reach a ceasefire in the next few hours"
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What's with the white utility truck on reuters?

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11/19/2012 05:27 AM
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What's with the white utility truck on reuters?

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Are those IDF soldiers?

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11/19/2012 05:27 AM
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Highlander 2 was a hell of alot different than Highlander 1.
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11/19/2012 05:28 AM

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BreakingNews: Palestinian medical officials: 95 people have been killed since the beginning of Israeli attacks on Gaza, including 23 children
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I think I recognize that vehicle on the reuters feed.

Isn't that a command unit for Iron Dome?
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Another explosion...
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11/19/2012 05:29 AM

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Huge explosion in Gaza on Reuter

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11/19/2012 05:30 AM
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News coming in true twitter
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@crispiandjb: Re #Gaza: Italian foreign minister in Brussels says “I believe there are the conditions to quickly reach a ceasefire in the next few hours"
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He's not in Cairo so he knows nothin
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lil pillow, lil pillow of puff puff puff
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11/19/2012 05:32 AM
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some rockets were just launched

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11/19/2012 05:33 AM
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some rockets were just launched

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Yeah saw them too, about 5-6 to the left of the mushroom cloud.
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Palestinian official: Egypt-brokered talks progressing in Cairo, but Israel-Hamas no truce soon; fire on south quietens down, with four rockets striking open areas in Negev; more than 540 rockets have fallen inside Israel since, all but 35 of them in open areas, while Iron Dome systems have intercepted 310 rockets.

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some rockets were just launched

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Yeah saw them too, about 5-6 to the left of the mushroom cloud.
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Camera is waiting for airstrike or what?
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11/19/2012 05:46 AM
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Iron Dome systems have intercepted 310 rockets.

Classified info... not believable...
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11/19/2012 05:48 AM

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Gaza ceasefire not imminent, warn officials
Both sides at talks in Egypt but conflicting demands over targeted killings means truce seems unlikely in short term
The war in Gaza appears to be in a grim holding pattern, poised before the alternatives of a ceasefire or a ground offensive by Israeli tanks and troops.
The Israeli Defence Forces reported it had struck 80 targets overnight, bringing the total number to 1,350 since the offensive began last Wednesday.


From the MSM , couldn't link it


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Here we go again.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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What's happening on Reuters cam

Fire or what
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Here we go again.
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Been up all night my friend!!
What is the time were you live..

hf
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We spotted some APC in your eo over.
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11/19/2012 05:54 AM
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Tanks fired? WTF
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What's happening on Reuters cam

Fire or what
 Quoting: Limpan


tanks on the road
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
William Hague has led fresh calls for a ceasefire in the Middle East after the bloodiest day of the Gaza crisis increased growing concerns over the safety of innocent civilians caught up in the conflict.

The British Foreign Secretary warned Israel that it risked losing international sympathy if it escalated its campaign against Palestinian militants into a ground invasion.

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