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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Why is war happening now Ascension is so close to starting next month??? wtfwtfwtf
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Can we ask ETs to intervene and enforce a ceasefire? abductabductabduct
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Nope.

We're fucked.

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Why is war happening now Ascension is so close to starting next month??? wtfwtfwtf
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Can we ask ETs to intervene and enforce a ceasefire? abductabductabduct
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Polish msm sticker:

Israel: we are ready for ground invasion, but we prefer diplomatic solution


Someone got any source of this news?
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yes i posted it a page before, it's on Reuters
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Thought i heard something about a 38 hour ultimatum? Can anyone confirm this?
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There were some rumours on the web (mostly Twitter) stating that Israel would give Hamas 36 hours to stop firing missiles or otherwise the IDF was ready to go in by ground. But they have been saying that they would increase actions and would go in gaza by ground for days now.

And mostly Palestinian sources are telling that there might still be some hope for a cease-fire, but that rumour also has been going around the web for days now.

All official sources were reporting that talks in Egypt (Cairo) have failed because of demands that could not be aggreed on betwen Israel and Hamas.

I seriously doubt that there will be any solution this time. This all just started out at a to perfect moment in time for some of the people that pull the strings from behind the scenes.
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I doubt any ceasefire would be beneficial to either side. Hamas has had several of its leaders taken out, if they quit, they lose face. Especially since they feel Egypt/Russia have their backs in this. Israel on the other hand would probably feel that if they dont finish the task and make a ceasefire its probably going to be a recurring problem. Cast Lead in 2009 brought no improvement. They know that as much as we do.

Besides, any ceasefire/truce terms would very likely include the lift of the Gaza blockade. Something Israel would never, ever agree to at this point. 2 "wars" in a timespan of less than 4 years did nothing to improve relationships or trust between the two sides.

That and we have the influence of coming Israeli elections at play here. If the Israeli people feel the job isnt finished and southern israel remains in danger, they will blame the current administration for not finishing the job.

All of this leads me to conclude that i dont see any chance of hostilities ending any time soon. If it does, it will be fragile at best, and just delaying the inevitable.
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Code red, Be'er Sheba
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Code red, Be'er Sheba
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[link to 10tv.nana10.co.il]
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Just a random thought...

Every time I've invisioned the battle of Armegheden Armageddon it looked like an open area similar to what they're now showing on RT...

[link to rt.com]

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anything new on turkey request for patriot missiles?
latest:
Turkey has not yet requested protection from NATO Patriot missiles, Dutch minister says - @Reuters
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They asked the to speed it up...
Have no link, will try to find it..

hf
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thanks Limpan!
german soldiers on syrian border..i don't like that idea!
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Al Quds Brigades:
Surprise shortly
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Just a random thought...

Every time I've invisioned the battle of Armegheden Armageddon it looked like an open area similar to what they're now showing on RT...

[link to rt.com]

hiding
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thanks for the info hf

been having lots of dreams as well
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Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan says Israel is carrying out 'terrorist acts' in Gaza -


Tosser!
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Al Quds Brigades:
Surprise shortly
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didn't they say that days before?!
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Al Quds Brigades:
Surprise shortly
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didn't they say that days before?!
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yep - daily
pray for quiet

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Threads super pinned again.

That has got to be close to a GLP record...

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Code red, Be'er Sheba
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one interception, one hit outside the city
thank G-d
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Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan says Israel is carrying out 'terrorist acts' in Gaza -


Tosser!
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Ummm yes they are.. Slaughtering children and woman..fucked up..
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"But if diplomacy fails, we may well have no alternative but to send in ground forces." (AFP)

How long do we have to wait?
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Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan says Israel is carrying out 'terrorist acts' in Gaza -


Tosser!
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While he's carrying out "anti-terrostist acts" against the Kurds.lolsign
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Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan says Israel is carrying out 'terrorist acts' in Gaza -


Tosser!
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Turkey will declare the war against Iraq, Iran, Syria, Israel, Cyprus, Greece, Armenia and Russia at the same time!! They have problems with all of them!
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Thought i heard something about a 38 hour ultimatum? Can anyone confirm this?
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There were some rumours on the web (mostly Twitter) stating that Israel would give Hamas 36 hours to stop firing missiles or otherwise the IDF was ready to go in by ground. But they have been saying that they would increase actions and would go in gaza by ground for days now.

And mostly Palestinian sources are telling that there might still be some hope for a cease-fire, but that rumour also has been going around the web for days now.

All official sources were reporting that talks in Egypt (Cairo) have failed because of demands that could not be aggreed on betwen Israel and Hamas.

I seriously doubt that there will be any solution this time. This all just started out at a to perfect moment in time for some of the people that pull the strings from behind the scenes.
 Quoting: Baphomet 27374765


I doubt any ceasefire would be beneficial to either side. Hamas has had several of its leaders taken out, if they quit, they lose face. Especially since they feel Egypt/Russia have their backs in this. Israel on the other hand would probably feel that if they dont finish the task and make a ceasefire its probably going to be a recurring problem. Cast Lead in 2009 brought no improvement. They know that as much as we do.

Besides, any ceasefire/truce terms would very likely include the lift of the Gaza blockade. Something Israel would never, ever agree to at this point. 2 "wars" in a timespan of less than 4 years did nothing to improve relationships or trust between the two sides.

That and we have the influence of coming Israeli elections at play here. If the Israeli people feel the job isnt finished and southern israel remains in danger, they will blame the current administration for not finishing the job.

All of this leads me to conclude that i dont see any chance of hostilities ending any time soon. If it does, it will be fragile at best, and just delaying the inevitable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26206541


You are right.
And Bibi is suppose to be a tough moter f....r.
I feel he have to go the whole way.

tiemunch
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An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

[link to www.debka.com]
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Al Quds Brigades:
Surprise shortly
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didn't they say that days before?!
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They did, yes.

As a sidenote: One does not announce surprises. Announcing it contradicts and ridicules the meaning of "surprise". Barbaric people down there, obviously. No civilization, no gin, no culture, no manners, no style, nothing of the sort, quite dull an experience to watch those peasant fanatics rumble about.
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how to fuck is israel winning? they struck an unbelievable 2000 ''terror'' targets so far, yet hamas is still pounding israel with dozens and dozens of rockets since monday morning. they have to go in. if they don't, then they will look weak forever. if they do, then they will lose support all over the world. they already lost. israel is nothing anymore.
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Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan says Israel is carrying out 'terrorist acts' in Gaza -


Tosser!
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Turkey will declare the war against Iraq, Iran, Syria, Israel, Cyprus, Greece, Armenia and Russia at the same time!! They have problems with all of them!
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They'd have even bigger problems if the declare war on all of them at once...

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Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan says Israel is carrying out 'terrorist acts' in Gaza -


Tosser!
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'terrorist acts' , and Hamas is the terror organisation????

Strange time

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Threads super pinned again.

That has got to be close to a GLP record...

banana2
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We are getting close
If there is a groun invasion, we will hit the record

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An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

[link to www.debka.com]
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It's debka, but if true, I have a feeling Israel would hit Iran hard.

ahhh
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An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

[link to www.debka.com]
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Oh great! New fireworks to celebrate the peaceful intentions of those innocent hamas freedom fighters on their way to that fundamentalist hellhole called Gaza. Wonderful news!
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Al Quds Brigades:
Surprise shortly
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didn't they say that days before?!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


They did, yes.

As a sidenote: One does not announce surprises. Announcing it contradicts and ridicules the meaning of "surprise". Barbaric people down there, obviously. No civilization, no gin, no culture, no manners, no style, nothing of the sort, quite dull an experience to watch those peasant fanatics rumble about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28035329


lol, now the jihad is saying they believe a ceasefire will be reached within 24 hours

ceasfire is lingo in the region for time to reload
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Thought i heard something about a 38 hour ultimatum? Can anyone confirm this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26206541


There were some rumours on the web (mostly Twitter) stating that Israel would give Hamas 36 hours to stop firing missiles or otherwise the IDF was ready to go in by ground. But they have been saying that they would increase actions and would go in gaza by ground for days now.

And mostly Palestinian sources are telling that there might still be some hope for a cease-fire, but that rumour also has been going around the web for days now.

All official sources were reporting that talks in Egypt (Cairo) have failed because of demands that could not be aggreed on betwen Israel and Hamas.

I seriously doubt that there will be any solution this time. This all just started out at a to perfect moment in time for some of the people that pull the strings from behind the scenes.
 Quoting: Baphomet 27374765


I doubt any ceasefire would be beneficial to either side. Hamas has had several of its leaders taken out, if they quit, they lose face. Especially since they feel Egypt/Russia have their backs in this. Israel on the other hand would probably feel that if they dont finish the task and make a ceasefire its probably going to be a recurring problem. Cast Lead in 2009 brought no improvement. They know that as much as we do.

Besides, any ceasefire/truce terms would very likely include the lift of the Gaza blockade. Something Israel would never, ever agree to at this point. 2 "wars" in a timespan of less than 4 years did nothing to improve relationships or trust between the two sides.

That and we have the influence of coming Israeli elections at play here. If the Israeli people feel the job isnt finished and southern israel remains in danger, they will blame the current administration for not finishing the job.

All of this leads me to conclude that i dont see any chance of hostilities ending any time soon. If it does, it will be fragile at best, and just delaying the inevitable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26206541


I must agree with you on the fact that we will probably see no ceasefire whatsoever. And I think we can agree on the fact that we will see a fast escalation of the ongoing situation in Israel and maybe even in the whole wide region over there.

It will not only escalate there, but this could have tremendous impact on most of our lives. Because with all of this Middle-East doom around the corner there will come lots more doom. Things will turn into a pretty shitty situation really fast. And most of the people will not even notice what is going on at the moment that all this doom will take place in their lives that seem to be so quiet and nice at this point in time.

It will spread out all over the world real fast, like a nasty un-curable disease that will get most of the people sick really really quick. And before they know they have it, it will be already over for them.

You get what I am trying to point out here? Yes, I think you do. I somehow think we are on one line here on this one.

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