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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
Denis_469

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russian will NEVER attack israel,guaranteed.
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God disagree with you. "Never say never".
Limpan

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how to fuck is israel winning? they struck an unbelievable 2000 ''terror'' targets so far, yet hamas is still pounding israel with dozens and dozens of rockets since monday morning. they have to go in. if they don't, then they will look weak forever. if they do, then they will lose support all over the world. they already lost. israel is nothing anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26329713


Now this is something to work with, even tho is a muzzie rambling with little meaning.

What you (and we) need to ask, is not HOW Hamas keeps firing missiles after 1,350 (not 2,000) have been hit, but WHY Israel let them do that?

Now, there are only TWO logical answers :
1.Israel is UNABLE to destroy all launchers
2.Israel DOES NOT WANT to destroy all launchers.

If 1., it means that Egypt is either suplying Hamas with missiles, either close the eyes when others (Hezbollah, Iran) supply Hamas.
In this case, no cease-fire, Israel will HAVE to go to the source, otherwise Hamas will keep fire.This means land invasion of Gaza and most likely occupation.

If 2., Israel is trying (dunno if will succed) to lure Hezbollah into attacking, because, well, Israel can't deal with little Hamas.
However, only looking like unable, Hezbollah might not bite it.So, no cease-fire, land invasion of Gaza, provoking this way Hezbollah to stop talking and start acting.

I believe that we are witnessing an Israeli master plan (if will succed, or not, we will see) to deal with BOTH Hamas and Hezbollah, while occupying at least the egyptian side of Gaza, for a total blockade.This in order to strike Iran, ofc.
 Quoting: recollector


Or the answer could be:
They need to destroy everything around them, so they only have one front to focus on. The retaliation attack from Iran, after they strike the nuclear facilities in iran

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 Quoting: Limpan


Which is what I said...
 Quoting: recollector


Sorry
hf
I read the ten first lines, missed the last.

peace
recollector

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11/19/2012 07:40 AM
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Morning man.

This should be the last day or the first day of escalation...I really don't think is the last day...
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11/19/2012 07:40 AM

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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Do you see this war as bigger than in 2008/9 or more important than 2008/9?
Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with!
Limpan

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11/19/2012 07:42 AM

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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Morning...
Things are a little calm right now, but things are moving aganst a ground invasion in the coming days!!
And it's not Harry saying that.
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11/19/2012 07:42 AM
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


good morning =]
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11/19/2012 07:43 AM
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Morning man.

This should be the last day or the first day of escalation...I really don't think is the last day...
 Quoting: recollector


Hey man, it's more like good afternoon for us :) but anyway I do agree that things are only going to get worse from now on !

It is the end of 2012 and it has to live up to the hype...unfortunately.
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11/19/2012 07:43 AM
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ISTANBUL - Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel on Monday of carrying out "terrorist acts" in its bombardment of Gaza.

[link to www.jpost.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Good Morning DB, keep up the good work my friend
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11/19/2012 07:44 AM
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Israel can't even invade its own backyard. Lil pillow of piff paff Aaaahhh, aaahhh hahahahaha
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russian will NEVER attack israel,guaranteed.
 Quoting: BrotherNature


God disagree with you. "Never say never".
 Quoting: Denis_469


i dont wanna start an argument but theres no god.
i respect your beliefs though
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In case it hasn't been said often enough:

Video: ISRAEL VS THE WORLD!!
[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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11/19/2012 07:45 AM
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Do you see this war as bigger than in 2008/9 or more important than 2008/9?
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Well the situation is very different than in 2008, a lot more players will be involved now because all the dictators in the region (that war loyal to the west) have now fallen and been replaced by the muslim brotherhood !
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Do you see this war as bigger than in 2008/9 or more important than 2008/9?
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Bigger than 2008/2009. How much? Don't know.
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ISTANBUL - Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel on Monday of carrying out "terrorist acts" in its bombardment of Gaza.

[link to www.jpost.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert

Good morning, Sir :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Good morning Éireann

coffeecup
DoorBert (OP)

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11/19/2012 07:46 AM
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Morning SZ86

cheers
Limpan

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11/19/2012 07:47 AM

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Hamas health official says total death toll in conflict 94, injures 740. Today is 25 dead including 3 children and an old man

Israel have 3 deaths and a couple of hundred wounded
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An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8620349


bump

map of rocket fire range

[link to twitpic.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


I can't believe people take debka.com seriously. Its only ever bullshit. like scorcha fail
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


maybe someone can try to catch the ship on a radar site
 Quoting: tarfonwxx

I can't make Miggy's map work :(
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An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8620349


This reminded me of the movie "Lord of War"
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ISTANBUL - Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel on Monday of carrying out "terrorist acts" in its bombardment of Gaza.

[link to www.jpost.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Good Morning DB, keep up the good work my friend
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18860547


Morning ...547

hf
tarfonwxx

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11/19/2012 07:49 AM
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60,000 IDF soldiers have now been called up (out of the 75,000 allowed by the government)
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11/19/2012 07:49 AM
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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Morning...
Things are a little calm right now, but things are moving aganst a ground invasion in the coming days!!
And it's not Harry saying that.
 Quoting: Limpan


Hi, Sub and Limpan. hugs

Limpan, when did the 36 hour warning about ground troops begin? Would it occur on Tuesday or late tonight?
Be Still and know that I am God.
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11/19/2012 07:50 AM

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An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8620349




I hope the US or Israel sink the fucker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18860547


Typical, the Israeli could sink a US Navy ship and you would still find excuses for Israel. Or wait...USS Liberty. Americans are incredible. Most suffer from convenient amnesia wrt Israel.
 Quoting: DutchCourage


I support Israel. You don't know what you are talking about. Israel is a friend of this nation and we worship Israel's God. Of course, I am going to defend her. If you had any loyalty to something besides yourself, you might understand that.
 Quoting: FierySky


Whatever, done with reli tards that keep confusing their God with the one that is worshipped by the Israeli. By your definition of friendship it is saver to be a distant neighbor. Will never understand. Google Israel and examples of its betrayal wrt USA. You may continue making conclusions to your own advantage.
"Legio Patria Nostra" (Marche ou crève)
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...


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map of rocket fire range

[link to twitpic.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


I can't believe people take debka.com seriously. Its only ever bullshit. like scorcha fail
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


maybe someone can try to catch the ship on a radar site
 Quoting: tarfonwxx

I can't make Miggy's map work :(
 Quoting: Éireann


[link to tinypic.com]
Limpan

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Staggering. Haaretz poll: More than 90 percent of Israeli Jews support Gaza war

Could mean a ground invasion is acceptable in Israel

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11/19/2012 07:50 AM

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Does anyone know how many casualties have been inflicted by the rockets and the time frame of them ?
 Quoting: wing-ed


Anybody ?
 Quoting: wing-ed


Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews
Palestinian medical officials: 95 people have been killed since the beginning of Israeli attacks on Gaza, including 23 children - and 3 israelis.
 Quoting: dikkie
Thank You !!
 Quoting: wing-ed


your welcome.

hf
tarfonwxx

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11/19/2012 07:51 AM
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Staggering. Haaretz poll: More than 90 percent of Israeli Jews support Gaza war

Could mean a ground invasion is acceptable in Israel

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


misleading. 84% are behind 'Pillar of Defense'; only 25% are behind a ground invasion. numbers from YNet.
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11/19/2012 07:51 AM
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13:15 AFP: Israeli air strikes killed 13 Palestinians on Monday, hiking the Gaza death toll to 91

To read more: [link to www.nowlebanon.com]
Limpan

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11/19/2012 07:51 AM

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Morning everyone !hf

Another day in this bloody war...
 Quoting: subzero86


Morning...
Things are a little calm right now, but things are moving aganst a ground invasion in the coming days!!
And it's not Harry saying that.
 Quoting: Limpan


Hi, Sub and Limpan. hugs

Limpan, when did the 36 hour warning about ground troops begin? Would it occur on Tuesday or late tonight?
 Quoting: Miggy


It would be tuesday night.
Help us all

verysad
Limpan

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Staggering. Haaretz poll: More than 90 percent of Israeli Jews support Gaza war

Could mean a ground invasion is acceptable in Israel

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


misleading. 84% are behind 'Pillar of Defense'; only 25% are behind a ground invasion. numbers from YNet.
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


Thanks

hf