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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire | |
Limpan User ID: 1474973  Sweden11/20/2012 11:33 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The #Gaza truce will be declared at 1900 GMT and go into effect at 2200 GMT, says #Hamas' Ayman Taha. #DNE, #Israel, #Egypt. Quoting: DoorBert [link to twitter.com] 37 minutes...waiting This will not end just like that. There will be rockets , negotiations, rockets, and then calm for a couple of weeks, the SHTF again.  |
| recollector User ID: 26964049  Romania11/20/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: recollector Thousands are fleeing north Gaza...seems to me quite the opposite. Well, keep hope at peace in a world driven by war... either IDF will counter the rocket attacks from earlier before a ceasefire is declared or there will be no ceasefire. all reports of ceasefire are from arab sources. even the western/israeli news sources reporting from egyptian/palestinian sources. hamas is at their high point. there are reports the truce includes an end to targeted killings of hamas leaders, which is how this operation began. [link to www.ynetnews.com] The only cease fire agreement INCLUDES Hamas disarmament AND Israel's TOTAL (not in phases) lifting Gaza blockade. Does ANY of the two above can be achieved? YEP...but WHICH ONE FIRST? So you see...Hamas CANNOT disarm first (and tbh, who will disarm them - UN or Israel?) because they are afraid to do that.Blockade cannot be lifted first, because Hamas will get MORE rockets and arms thru egyptian Sinai...Egypt is under MB control. so...NO CEASE FIRE whatsoever. Non starter. The blockade already has too many leaks, Israel would need to control the Gaza/Sinai crossings. So why would Hamas give up something they already have? And esp their arms? Not likely.. And this is WHY there can't be a cease fire...Israel must secure 10-15 miles in Sinai adiacent to the Strip. Egyptians also KNOW that... recollector |
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| CowgirlK User ID: 28104451 United States11/20/2012 11:33 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meshaal, the Hamas leader, said on Monday his group was committed to efforts to secure a truce, but insisted that Israel must lift its six-year blockade of the Gaza Strip. "We are not against a calming, but we want our demands ... to end the thuggery, to end the aggression and to lift the blockade," he said, adding that Hamas would reject any Israeli preconditions for a ceasefire because "they started the aggression". [link to www.aljazeera.com] Peace over...Doom on! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28141055  Australia11/20/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The #Gaza truce will be declared at 1900 GMT and go into effect at 2200 GMT, says #Hamas' Ayman Taha. #DNE, #Israel, #Egypt. Quoting: DoorBert [link to twitter.com] 37 minutes...waiting This will not end just like that. There will be rockets , negotiations, rockets, and then calm for a couple of weeks, the SHTF again. when the Israeli elections are over, TSHTF |
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| Anderson_G User ID: 5614178 United Kingdom11/20/2012 11:34 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can anyone confirm Israels agreement to this as all msm I have checked says there is an agreement but I haven't seen any Israeli msm Quoting: Anderson_G israel refuses to confirm the cease fire. hmmm its a case of time will tell.....  Anderson_G Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28032084 United Kingdom11/20/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084 Wrong. No. The four point agreement plan has been agreed. Hamas stops rockets and israel will stop targetting hamas polititians, Bloackade lifted.. its all on the msm. Pretty gutless from israel. No wonder they want the US to take on Iran. Israel dont have the balls |
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| recollector User ID: 26964049 Romania11/20/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The #Gaza truce will be declared at 1900 GMT and go into effect at 2200 GMT, says #Hamas' Ayman Taha. #DNE, #Israel, #Egypt. Quoting: DoorBert [link to twitter.com] 37 minutes...waiting This will not end just like that. There will be rockets , negotiations, rockets, and then calm for a couple of weeks, the SHTF again. when the Israeli elections are over, TSHTF There won't be any elections...the world either ends, either is in full world war. recollector |
| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States11/20/2012 11:35 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are aware that the time posted o this site can be adjusted to your local time as you log in, right? Oh wait...... Emergency/ Disaster Preparedness Supplies [link to mtnx.info] Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28141055 Australia11/20/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will not end just like that. There will be rockets , negotiations, rockets, and then calm for a couple of weeks, the SHTF again. when the Israeli elections are over, TSHTF There won't be any elections...the world either ends, either is in full world war. cool story bro |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624  Mexico11/20/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1627: An Israeli official has refused to confirm to the BBC that a ceasefire is imminent. At this stage, the official says, Israel will continue its operation until the rocket fire stops; and the diplomatic track and military operation will continue in parallel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Sounds like hawk stance for domestic consumption, "We showed 'em!". When they both stop nobody will really know who fired the last shot... |
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