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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


CNN live here....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


By who? Israel or accidental Gaza rockets?
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BREAKING: Senior Hamas official says no cease-fire deal with Israel but agreement is close.
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the ultimatum Israel gave Hamas yesterday (36 hours..) ends in two hours
 Quoting: tarfonwxx


And Netanyahu delayed the ground invasion time frame by 24 hours last night. So it's 26 hours off as of now.
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the ceasefire starts in 5 hours and 20 minuets.
its 18:40 in israel and gaza right now.
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Thanks for ending the disagreement hf
 Quoting: littlemiracles


no problem hf
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either IDF will counter the rocket attacks from earlier before a ceasefire is declared

or there will be no ceasefire. all reports of ceasefire are from arab sources. even the western/israeli news sources reporting from egyptian/palestinian sources. hamas is at their high point. there are reports the truce includes an end to targeted killings of hamas leaders, which is how this operation began.

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx



The only cease fire agreement INCLUDES Hamas disarmament AND Israel's TOTAL (not in phases) lifting Gaza blockade.

Does ANY of the two above can be achieved? YEP...but WHICH ONE FIRST?

So you see...Hamas CANNOT disarm first (and tbh, who will disarm them - UN or Israel?) because they are afraid to do that.Blockade cannot be lifted first, because Hamas will get MORE rockets and arms thru egyptian Sinai...Egypt is under MB control.


so...NO CEASE FIRE whatsoever.
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 Quoting: recollector


Non starter. The blockade already has too many leaks, Israel would need to control the Gaza/Sinai crossings. So why would Hamas give up something they already have? And esp their arms? Not likely..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


And this is WHY there can't be a cease fire...Israel must secure 10-15 miles in Sinai adiacent to the Strip.

Egyptians also KNOW that...
 Quoting: recollector


And Egypt is out of the picture, and can do little. That's
the difference from the old status quo. I dont think Israel can control that border when they have antagonists on both sides -- Gaza and Sinai.
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@AP BREAKING: Senior Hamas official says no cease-fire deal with Israel but agreement is close (1 minute ago)
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abc is saying ceasefire will be announced at 1pm eastern abc says no cease fire that its just talk such conflicting info
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live now.. peace is broked.. they say.... but 'no deal'

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cnn just said isreal denies ceasefire talk
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Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084


Wrong.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


No. The four point agreement plan has been agreed.
Hamas stops rockets and israel will stop targetting hamas polititians, Bloackade lifted.. its all on the msm.
Pretty gutless from israel. No wonder they want the US to take on Iran. Israel dont have the balls
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084

I tend to agree. But they can't be this stupid. Agreeing to lift or relax the blockade will create new problems. So Israel in a way is agreeing to it because they know lifting the blockade will provide Hamas the opportunity to violate the rules.
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now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


CNN live here.... they're not sure whtere it was a rocket, or bits of one they shot down....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


earlier today there were reports of a jerusalem-aimed rocket hitting (or being intercepted?) near Bethlehem
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live.. sirens still going off...
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cnn just said isreal denies ceasefire talk
 Quoting: Desertwolf


here we go again ROFL
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WHAT IN THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?

Can we all please stop posting ceasefire info and just wait?

This is ridiculous.
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
The situation is fucking intense..

Little scheme:

1) 19.00 GMT (less than 2 hours): "eventual" Ceasfire declaration by Egyptian PM.

2) At this point, no ceasfire is agreed, israeli source confirms.

3) The ceasfire starts at midnight (about 5 hours).

4) IDF dropped leaflits where they URGING PEOPLE TO EVACUATE FROM GAZA.

IF the ceasfire will be agree, we have to watch very close the hours near and after midnight.
IF the ceasfire won't be agree, Israel starts ground operation.

Just sayn'.
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israel school got bombed by a rocket.. how ironic.....
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cnn just said isreal denies ceasefire talk
 Quoting: Desertwolf


here we go again ROFL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28141055


I'm getting tired

huffy
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The situation is fucking intense..

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ohyeah
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cnn just said isreal denies ceasefire talk
 Quoting: Desertwolf


here we go again ROFL
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wtf
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IDF strike in north Gaza.
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cnn just said isreal denies ceasefire talk
 Quoting: Desertwolf


here we go again ROFL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28141055


I'm getting tired

huffy
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mate, I've been up all night..it's almost 4am here.
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So, are the major news networks getting there lead info from a Hamas janitor or something? Maybe a Hamas parking attendent? Israeli front desk clerk?

Just saying the term "Hamas/Israeli Source" doesn't give credibility. I love rumormills...
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Massive explosion just seen on RT.
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Hamas denies ceasefire reports.
Yes I Did !!!!
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Seems like the MSM is scrambling like crazy, because they know they've lost control !!

Too much REAL info getting to the "people". The MSM is now aware that they can't spoon feed the entire world population anymore. LOL

I love it !! They just don't know which way to turn. All getting a different spin to feed, and it's not working.

ROTFLMAO !!
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Report: U.S. President Barack Obama spoke with Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi three times in the last 24 hours (Al Arabiya)
 Quoting: Dixie Normous


"We the people, hope for a change. We look forwardto a truce"
 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 25418609


More like, Lean Forward for your Ass Fuckin'!
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israel school got bombed by a rocket.. how ironic.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Yeah, funny how the old Iron Dome just can't seem to stop them now that ceasefire talks are going on.

I haven't seen an interception all morning all of the sudden.
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Israel government spokesman tells CNN #Gaza ceasefire is not finalised [link to aje.me]
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now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


CNN live here.... they're not sure whtere it was a rocket, or bits of one they shot down....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


earlier today there were reports of a jerusalem-aimed rocket hitting (or being intercepted?) near Bethlehem
 Quoting: Swinburnian


fell in open areas south of Jerusalem, near Bethlehem

[link to bigstory.ap.org]
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Hamas denies ceasefire reports.
 Quoting: CXTGLP


why don't you ever have to provide a link. im really curious...

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