"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/20/2012 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: tarfonwxx either IDF will counter the rocket attacks from earlier before a ceasefire is declared or there will be no ceasefire. all reports of ceasefire are from arab sources. even the western/israeli news sources reporting from egyptian/palestinian sources. hamas is at their high point. there are reports the truce includes an end to targeted killings of hamas leaders, which is how this operation began. [link to www.ynetnews.com] The only cease fire agreement INCLUDES Hamas disarmament AND Israel's TOTAL (not in phases) lifting Gaza blockade. Does ANY of the two above can be achieved? YEP...but WHICH ONE FIRST? So you see...Hamas CANNOT disarm first (and tbh, who will disarm them - UN or Israel?) because they are afraid to do that.Blockade cannot be lifted first, because Hamas will get MORE rockets and arms thru egyptian Sinai...Egypt is under MB control. so...NO CEASE FIRE whatsoever. Non starter. The blockade already has too many leaks, Israel would need to control the Gaza/Sinai crossings. So why would Hamas give up something they already have? And esp their arms? Not likely.. And this is WHY there can't be a cease fire...Israel must secure 10-15 miles in Sinai adiacent to the Strip. Egyptians also KNOW that... And Egypt is out of the picture, and can do little. That's the difference from the old status quo. I dont think Israel can control that border when they have antagonists on both sides -- Gaza and Sinai. |
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| Citizenperth MY Forum User ID: 27714573 11/20/2012 11:43 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | live now.. peace is broked.. they say.... but 'no deal' Last Edited by Citizenperth on 11/20/2012 11:43 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. My Blog: [link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com] I have my own personal Japanese Shill(s) TEPCO for posting the truth about Fukushima, do you? If you are abused by ACs on my threads particularly anything that may end in an 'atom', DO NOT RESPOND to them. Their posts will be deleted and they will be banned. Atom-Tepco-Please-Don't! *** not anti-islam *** just anti-idiots... any religion... sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie today's pic is of me an my loving comments about how the crisis is being handled twitter: @citizenperth |
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| ISO User ID: 26727474 11/20/2012 11:44 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084 Wrong. No. The four point agreement plan has been agreed. Hamas stops rockets and israel will stop targetting hamas polititians, Bloackade lifted.. its all on the msm. Pretty gutless from israel. No wonder they want the US to take on Iran. Israel dont have the balls I tend to agree. But they can't be this stupid. Agreeing to lift or relax the blockade will create new problems. So Israel in a way is agreeing to it because they know lifting the blockade will provide Hamas the opportunity to violate the rules. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 11/20/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed Quoting: Citizenperth Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big. CNN live here.... they're not sure whtere it was a rocket, or bits of one they shot down.... earlier today there were reports of a jerusalem-aimed rocket hitting (or being intercepted?) near Bethlehem |
| Citizenperth MY Forum User ID: 27714573 11/20/2012 11:44 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | live.. sirens still going off... It's life as we know it, but only just. My Blog: [link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com] I have my own personal Japanese Shill(s) TEPCO for posting the truth about Fukushima, do you? If you are abused by ACs on my threads particularly anything that may end in an 'atom', DO NOT RESPOND to them. Their posts will be deleted and they will be banned. Atom-Tepco-Please-Don't! *** not anti-islam *** just anti-idiots... any religion... sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie today's pic is of me an my loving comments about how the crisis is being handled twitter: @citizenperth |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28136451 11/20/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The situation is fucking intense.. Little scheme: 1) 19.00 GMT (less than 2 hours): "eventual" Ceasfire declaration by Egyptian PM. 2) At this point, no ceasfire is agreed, israeli source confirms. 3) The ceasfire starts at midnight (about 5 hours). 4) IDF dropped leaflits where they URGING PEOPLE TO EVACUATE FROM GAZA. IF the ceasfire will be agree, we have to watch very close the hours near and after midnight. IF the ceasfire won't be agree, Israel starts ground operation. Just sayn'. |
| Citizenperth MY Forum User ID: 27714573 11/20/2012 11:46 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | israel school got bombed by a rocket.. how ironic..... It's life as we know it, but only just. My Blog: [link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com] I have my own personal Japanese Shill(s) TEPCO for posting the truth about Fukushima, do you? If you are abused by ACs on my threads particularly anything that may end in an 'atom', DO NOT RESPOND to them. Their posts will be deleted and they will be banned. Atom-Tepco-Please-Don't! *** not anti-islam *** just anti-idiots... any religion... sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie today's pic is of me an my loving comments about how the crisis is being handled twitter: @citizenperth |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1421433 11/20/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, are the major news networks getting there lead info from a Hamas janitor or something? Maybe a Hamas parking attendent? Israeli front desk clerk? Just saying the term "Hamas/Israeli Source" doesn't give credibility. I love rumormills... |
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| Yes I Did !!!! User ID: 28055368 11/20/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like the MSM is scrambling like crazy, because they know they've lost control !! Too much REAL info getting to the "people". The MSM is now aware that they can't spoon feed the entire world population anymore. LOL I love it !! They just don't know which way to turn. All getting a different spin to feed, and it's not working. ROTFLMAO !! "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
| Saddletramp User ID: 78748 11/20/2012 11:48 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Report: U.S. President Barack Obama spoke with Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi three times in the last 24 hours (Al Arabiya) Quoting: Dixie Normous "We the people, hope for a change. We look forwardto a truce" More like, Lean Forward for your Ass Fuckin'! Just because you're paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get ya! Paranoid?!?!? I wish! Shit son, we're hell and gone from paranoid... We don't rent pigs... Come and take it! |
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| dikkie User ID: 1328988 11/20/2012 11:48 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AJELive ‏@AJELive Israel government spokesman tells CNN #Gaza ceasefire is not finalised [link to aje.me] |