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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
Limpan

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Hamas TV threatening to air live rocket launch on Tel Aviv
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That would be interesting
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...


You don't know any muslims, do you?

Yeah, didn't think so, stfu.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15873018


I don't need to know any Muslims to know the truth....

I know the history of Islam ....I've read plenty about Muhammad ....he spread his phony religion by the blade and his followers that ARE IN CONTROL OF MOST THE ARAB WORLD SPREAD IT THE SAME WAY

can't argue with that one huh.....didn't think so
 Quoting: Simple_Man


You say you have read about Islam, not too in-depth, evidently.

You have moderates and extremists in all religions, Islam, just happens to be the biggest religion in the world.

If you had the same number Jews, you would see the same thing.

You are the perfect example of a pretentious ignorant unworldly American.

Nuff said, good bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15873018


You're right that you have moderates and extremists in all religions but if you read all the recorded history of Muhammad from every independent source and even some muslim historians you would know that Muhammad himself spread Islam by the sword

Did Jesus spread his teachings by the sword or by peace ? .... The answer obviously is thru peace .... it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the practice of forced conversion and they were and are extremists ...

But Jesus himself never practiced violence to spread his teachings ....Muhammad did
 Quoting: Simple_Man


you really are a 'simple man'arent you?. thats the problem with you yanks you shout a load of shit and know nothing!!!

let me educate you:

yes jesus did procliam violence read...

matthew 10: 34: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (jihad in other words)

and now jesus orders anyone that doesnt obey/follow him to be killed:

(jesus words)
luke 19: 27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

and it is a historical fact that no muslim has ever been forced to convert outside or arabia. the only reason in arabia was the taking of mecca.

infact the quran forbids in no uncertain terms that NOONE shall be forced to convert:

quran surah 2:
002.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.

but dont worry you go back to sleep and keep believing that all muslims are the problem...

you yanks and we british are the problem. the muzzies are innocent, they havent done anything to us, we have mrudered them by the millions...WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
Anonymous Coward
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I thought Israel, next to KSA and Pakistan, were the worlds top managers of exported terror in the world?

I know they are top of the list for conducting false flags, the most recent one in Thailand.
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11/15/2012 04:15 AM
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This one will never grow up to be a terrorist.

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Hamas TV threatening to air live rocket launch on Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


lol
soooo stupid. That should garner the world's sympathy. I think they should stick with showing bloody children.
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I know the history of Islam ....I've read plenty about Muhammad ....he spread his phony religion by the blade and his followers that ARE IN CONTROL OF MOST THE ARAB WORLD SPREAD IT THE SAME WAY
 Quoting: Simple_Man

I know the history of Christianity. I've read plenty about the vengeful God who thinks slavery and slaughtering your God's enemies to the last man, woman and child is a-ok. According to your logic I should therefore conclude that Christians are a genocidal cult that thrives on slave trade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21734520


Typical deflection .... Can't argue the truth so you attack Christians

You obviously don't know anything about Christianity if you think that Jesus or anywhere in the New Testament ever taught his followers to slaughter thier enemies to the last man...you must be referring to Law of the Old Testament which isn't Christianity ...but a intelligent liberal like you should know this right?

Infact Christianity teaches the exact opposite ...." Vengeance is mine saith The Lord
 Quoting: Simple_Man


The New Testament didn't replace the Old Testament. That's why it's still in the Bible. Even Jesus said that:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

[link to bible.cc]

Therefore, the Old Law is still valid, and even if Jesus supposedly opened up a way around it, God didn't revoke anything. He's still the same old sado-narcissistic SOB as in the early days.

Slavery, stoning of people, slaughtering enemy tribes and other atrocities are still ok and part of the Law. The only thing that changed is that you can break the Law and still be saved - as long you believe in Jesus. In fact, you can still follow the Law and, even though you can't fulfill it, you will still be saved by your faith in Jesus.

So, if a Christian feels a divinely inspired hatred of gays, prostitutes or witches, he can still go and murder them and still be saved by Jesus. The attempt to obey the Law would probably even earn you a few bonus points.
Limpan

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Morning

hf

Do anyone have a link to a live feed from gaza??

Thanks

 Quoting: Limpan


hf Hi my friend!
 Quoting: Luisport


Hi

hf
taniatarn

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11/15/2012 04:16 AM
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stream is offline now? Anybody watching as it went off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17418121


I was but looked away for a second. Looked back cuz I thought I heard a plane or missile and then ... nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


Bumma...was hoping someone saw what happened! I was checking on my daughter, came back and it was gone :(

Is it automatically recorded somewhere at all?
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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Hamas TV threatening to air live rocket launch on Tel Aviv
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Hamas: Tomorrow there will be mourning in Tel Aviv
Limpan

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11/15/2012 04:17 AM

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A lot of IDF info on internet is blocked!!!

hiding
Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2012 04:19 AM
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I say they go Sampson and get this show on the road.
Id love if they found a peaceful soltion to thir problems, but no muslim or muslim lover will be happy with an agreement unless it includes robbing people of their land. Or wiping her off the map. You all want to take sides with groups that support radical muslims? Go for it. But Im not.
 Quoting: Junie


Sampson is not an option for many reasons ! The amount of innocent civilians killed in such a strike would be unimaginable !

And also the nuclear fallout will rain down on Israeli cities once the winds shift direction !
 Quoting: subzero86


It certainly is an option.
If they are going to be attacked from all sides, she will use that option. No doubt about that. What would they have to lose facing annihalation from all sides?
 Quoting: Junie


It is an absolute last resort option !
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I agree it is , but I have no doubts they would use it.
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11/15/2012 04:20 AM
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Hamas TV threatening to air live rocket launch on Tel Aviv
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Hamas: Tomorrow there will be mourning in Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


link? thx
Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2012 04:20 AM
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stream is offline now? Anybody watching as it went off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17418121


I was but looked away for a second. Looked back cuz I thought I heard a plane or missile and then ... nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


same here......making a coffee....might come back on yet!! :-)
Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2012 04:21 AM
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A lot of IDF info on internet is blocked!!!

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


Seems is a step in preparing ground invasion taking out supply and comms is a step for implementig that
taniatarn

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11/15/2012 04:21 AM
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A lot of IDF info on internet is blocked!!!

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


Yes you are right....! Their main blog is down and other sites as well.

The Hackers really are following through on their promises.

hiding
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Limpan

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11/15/2012 04:21 AM

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IDF Chief of General Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz says that targeting rocket launch crews in Gaza should be made the top priority. Intelligence services are making determined efforts to identify and locate terror group leaders in Gaza. The IDF also says it is concerned that terrorists may try and attack naval vessels patrolling off the coast of Gaza.
taniatarn

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11/15/2012 04:22 AM
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A lot of IDF info on internet is blocked!!!

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


Yes you are right....! Their main blog is down and other sites as well.

The Hackers really are following through on their promises.

hiding
 Quoting: taniatarn


Lol...just as I posted it came back up again...they are very quick to fix any issues...as it has been taken down several times and replaced almost as quick!
Interested observer of all things interesting!

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11/15/2012 04:22 AM
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terrorist supporters proudly display the remains of a human shield

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I don't need to know any Muslims to know the truth....

I know the history of Islam ....I've read plenty about Muhammad ....he spread his phony religion by the blade and his followers that ARE IN CONTROL OF MOST THE ARAB WORLD SPREAD IT THE SAME WAY

can't argue with that one huh.....didn't think so
 Quoting: Simple_Man


You say you have read about Islam, not too in-depth, evidently.

You have moderates and extremists in all religions, Islam, just happens to be the biggest religion in the world.

If you had the same number Jews, you would see the same thing.

You are the perfect example of a pretentious ignorant unworldly American.

Nuff said, good bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15873018


You're right that you have moderates and extremists in all religions but if you read all the recorded history of Muhammad from every independent source and even some muslim historians you would know that Muhammad himself spread Islam by the sword

Did Jesus spread his teachings by the sword or by peace ? .... The answer obviously is thru peace .... it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the practice of forced conversion and they were and are extremists ...

But Jesus himself never practiced violence to spread his teachings ....Muhammad did
 Quoting: Simple_Man


you really are a 'simple man'arent you?. thats the problem with you yanks you shout a load of shit and know nothing!!!

let me educate you:

yes jesus did procliam violence read...

matthew 10: 34: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (jihad in other words)

and now jesus orders anyone that doesnt obey/follow him to be killed:

(jesus words)
luke 19: 27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

and it is a historical fact that no muslim has ever been forced to convert outside or arabia. the only reason in arabia was the taking of mecca.

infact the quran forbids in no uncertain terms that NOONE shall be forced to convert:

quran surah 2:
002.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.

but dont worry you go back to sleep and keep believing that all muslims are the problem...

you yanks and we british are the problem. the muzzies are innocent, they havent done anything to us, we have mrudered them by the millions...WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


you misinterpet the first scripture and you use the last one out of context ...

the first scripture you used ....Jesus is talking about the spiritual kingdom because that's what he came to establish .... he was pronouncing war on satan thru the power of the sword ...which in spiritual terms is literally the Word of God....Jesus was saying that satan would be defeated by the Word

In you second example ...Jesus is telling a parable about ruler ...the interpetation of the parable basicly is that at the end of time .....at the judgement seat ....there will be people who recieve the death punishment for the evil deeds on earth....like Stalin , Mao ....serial killers....etc....etc

nice try tho
Limpan

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Hamas TV threatening to air live rocket launch on Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


Hamas: Tomorrow there will be mourning in Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


link? thx
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


It's a war of words right now. Doubt sincerly that hamas could reach Tel Aviv..
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11/15/2012 04:23 AM
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stream is offline now? Anybody watching as it went off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17418121


I was but looked away for a second. Looked back cuz I thought I heard a plane or missile and then ... nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


same here......making a coffee....might come back on yet!! :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17418121


yeah, I literally looked away for 5 seconds. Definitely was a a missile or plain that's what brought my attention back to it but it was a black screen saying Off Air.
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11/15/2012 04:23 AM
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here`s another live cam. It moves to different locations from time to time but I`ve seen 2 of the rockets go by

[link to rt.com]
Limpan

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11/15/2012 04:24 AM

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This is quit funny

IDF has dropped leaflets over Gaza, warning residents of impending attacks. Basically, avoid areas close to Hamas operatives

Like the terrorist wouldnät see that.

SO??????

tomato
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Hamas TV threatening to air live rocket launch on Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


Hamas: Tomorrow there will be mourning in Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


link? thx
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


It's a war of words right now. Doubt sincerly that hamas could reach Tel Aviv..
 Quoting: Limpan


maybe not in the way we think. They may have a special piece of fireworks they bought from Iran.
Limpan

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11/15/2012 04:25 AM

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Police commissioner Yohanan Danino says he expects the rocket fire from Gaza to increase in the near future.

“Our expectations are that the rate of rocket fire that we have seen in that past hours will increase,” he says and adds that the primary objective of the police right now is to reduce the number of injured people.
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11/15/2012 04:25 AM
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rt is still streaming but no sound. I really think the sound adds a lot.

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11/15/2012 04:26 AM
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You're the one who tried to make it seem like the fight was fair, by saying fisticuffs were involved, which simply cannot work at this level.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15873018


What "fair fight"?

What the F are you blathering on about, you malodorous cretin?

What are you, 12 years old? No sovereign nation-state in the history of the world, would tolerate 10 years of almost unrelenting bombardment & terror attempts-- except for Israel, and even their patience has run out.

Hamas got plenty of aid from both EU and their super-wealthy "brothers" from KSA, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait and before that Iran & Syria... what did they choose to do with all those billions? Build up intrustructure and improve Gaza economy? Build bomb shelters for Palestinian civilians in case of a war HAMAS has been desperately trying to provoke? Nope, HAMAS commanders bought themselves fancy cars and hookers, and spent the rest on all kinds of advanced weaponry including Fajr-5, Zelzal, Igla, RPG-29...

So now Israel should somehow try to make sure as many Israeli civilians are killed just to even up a score? Becauser it would more "fair" to Hamas's reputation on the Arab Street????

Bwaa-ahahahaah!

Go have sexual relations with a brown-snake, or with Russell Crowe's angrily smashed-up acoustic guitar that evidently didn't want to make the right sounds when the Ol' Russ needed them the most, crikes matey!... and leave serious geo-political & military tactics discussion to those far better equipped for them than you, ya silly poofster.

Next.
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Hamas: Tomorrow there will be mourning in Tel Aviv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4695650


link? thx
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


It's a war of words right now. Doubt sincerly that hamas could reach Tel Aviv..
 Quoting: Limpan


maybe not in the way we think. They may have a special piece of fireworks they bought from Iran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27772469


Would spice up the situation

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Limpan

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rt is still streaming but no sound. I really think the sound adds a lot.

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hf
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I know the history of Islam ....I've read plenty about Muhammad ....he spread his phony religion by the blade and his followers that ARE IN CONTROL OF MOST THE ARAB WORLD SPREAD IT THE SAME WAY
 Quoting: Simple_Man

I know the history of Christianity. I've read plenty about the vengeful God who thinks slavery and slaughtering your God's enemies to the last man, woman and child is a-ok. According to your logic I should therefore conclude that Christians are a genocidal cult that thrives on slave trade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21734520


Typical deflection .... Can't argue the truth so you attack Christians

You obviously don't know anything about Christianity if you think that Jesus or anywhere in the New Testament ever taught his followers to slaughter thier enemies to the last man...you must be referring to Law of the Old Testament which isn't Christianity ...but a intelligent liberal like you should know this right?

Infact Christianity teaches the exact opposite ...." Vengeance is mine saith The Lord
 Quoting: Simple_Man


The New Testament didn't replace the Old Testament. That's why it's still in the Bible. Even Jesus said that:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

[link to bible.cc]

Therefore, the Old Law is still valid, and even if Jesus supposedly opened up a way around it, God didn't revoke anything. He's still the same old sado-narcissistic SOB as in the early days.

Slavery, stoning of people, slaughtering enemy tribes and other atrocities are still ok and part of the Law. The only thing that changed is that you can break the Law and still be saved - as long you believe in Jesus. In fact, you can still follow the Law and, even though you can't fulfill it, you will still be saved by your faith in Jesus.

So, if a Christian feels a divinely inspired hatred of gays, prostitutes or witches, he can still go and murder them and still be saved by Jesus. The attempt to obey the Law would probably even earn you a few bonus points.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21734520



you are ignorant of bible teaching ...... Jesus did fufills the law by taking it upon himself and telling us not to worry about vengence for sin anymore like followers of god in the Old Testament did ...

He said to just turn the other cheek and from now on I will take care of the vengence part


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