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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Battlefield 3 sounds. Lol.
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At least Trin understands that.

Militarily, Israel HAVE TO reoccupy Gaza.Without that, Hamas will KEEP getting missiles, Israelw ill KEEP getting pounded...and this will go on forever.

The israeli PEOPLE this time (not the leaders) wants hamas OUT.

Bibi will do that...very soon.
 Quoting: recollector


No, Israel does NOT have to occupy Gaza.

All it need is get control of the narrow sliver called Philadelhi Corridor for at least a MONTH -- to destroy the 100's of smuggling tunnels. Then a beefed-up UN security should be enough.

Will Gaza eventaully learn to smuggle cigarettes, porn, dildos and expired medication? Yes, Israel can't prevent that.

Will Gaza be able to smuggle 2-story building tall Fajr-5 and Zelzal rockets? Or Mercedes cars for the Hamas leadership? Not so easily, LOL.

Gaza operation is ONLY justified if there is a IRON-CLAD PROVABLE intelligence that Hamas harbors some of Assad's Sarin gas & VX agent. Then gloves are off.

But other than that....Gaza operation csst would run into BILLIONS of dollars and be only Obama UNSC Veto away from crushing sacntions levied against Israel once Palestinian human shields start dying not in dozens like now, but in 100's eventually couple of 1000....

IDF is a very good army for such a tiny country like Israel, but seriously, do you people have ANY idea what year 2012 Urban Warfare in a place like Gaza would be like???

I mean, really. Look up "Kornet", "Igla-S", "Metis-M", "RPG-30".... remember that mine Hezbollah lured an IDF tank over when it blew up half-a-freakin'-mile-UP-IN-THE-AIR at the outset of 2006 war????

Well, 2006 war was at least fought in RURAL areas and small villages, for the most part. Gaza City is a whole another level of CLUSTERFUCK!!!
 Quoting: ASV 28142981


Very nice analysis. I agree about tunnels, and the breaking of the blockade. And Likud and IDF total lack of clarity on what they are doing. They are very desperate, and cant be that stupid to think they can return to pre Arab Spring status quo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


So a fake-Mexican wants to wax political about military tactics & Arab Spring now ----> after being proven woeful ignorant about both Israeli political system & the gruesome Palestiian Shahid Mentality.... Nope, no go.

As for Arab Spring, you and many others in the Leftist echo chamber in the Westt..... are WRONG about it. Very shallow thinking on their part.

While creating obvious short-term problem with Salafists, Arab Spring is GOOD for Israel & the West in the LONGER-term. Same idea behind Bush's Democracy Doctrine.

It's happend ehre and there even in the foresaken places like Africa in places like Liberia -- where WOMEN threw off shackles of oppression and practically lynched Charles Taylor in his compound.

It will be even more pronounced in case of Arab Spring -- even Islam can only escape Modernirt & moderation for so long. Women there WILL be liberaed and it will be a true GAME-CHANGER.

Why do you think Iran is so panicky about their mad-dash to the Bomb? Because Mullahs see the writing on the wall: even after 33 years of massive repression & brainwashing, the huge YOUNG Persian population HATES the Ayatollah's guts with passion. If not for Basij militias, Ahmadinejad would have been torn apart long ago. And it will happen, trust me.

Egypt? LOL, Tanwawi, Shafiq, Suleiman, Mubarak picked PERFECT time to "step down".... why slaugter their own people, why incur the wrath of Obama and the West when they know that once almost 90 million Egyptian begin to STARVE,
once Muslim Brotherhood picks a fight with Israel and thus completely alienates Western aid & food imports...once tourism is compltely shot.... Morsi & MB will be HELD ACCOUNTABLE by irate Egyptians. They will LONG for the relatively stable days of Mubarak. Give it a year or 2. Hahaha.
 Quoting: ASV 28142981


Whow. slow down. What I meant by Arab Spring, is Egypt's loss of control of Sinai. Egypt's part of the deal with Israel controlling Sinai crossings. Sinai controls crossings and are semi autonomous of Cairo. If you have a disagreement with that let me know...
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Source to BBC in #Gaza "things are taking some time as there's no direct negotiations, the talks take place through the Turkish & Egyptians"
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Cpl. Yosef Fartuk, 18, from Emmanuel, was killed earlier today by a rocket fired from Gaza into Israel. His family has been notified.

2 Mins ago posted
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Now, that's a name! LOL
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But Israel does not have any large navy ships does it??? i know they dont have destoryers.
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I hear drones flying.
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LOUD STREAM OF RT

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This one doesn't work for me. Any suggestions?
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[link to rt.com]

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Listening on RT.

The booms sound very much like tank fire.

The buzzing could be a C-130 in the distance. If it is a c-130 gunship, the boom sounds could be coming from the aircraft cannon.

Any veterans with thoughts on this?
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Hamas denies CNN reports of ceasefire starting at 9PM.
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I need a dring my old friend

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I believe CNN doesn't care who they may garner support FOR -
as long as it's AGAINST Israel, even if the reports are openly false.
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What the hell fires 4 times in a row? I heard 7 series of 4 firings, in distance...

could it be the navy cannons?
 Quoting: recollector


I think that was def navy but couldn't hear where it landed.
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Hamas denies CNN reports of ceasefire starting at 9PM.
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Source???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220924

HAMAS
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Flares again?!
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artillery sounds and arty flares on rt cam,
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IDF tanks firing on east Gaza.
 Quoting: CXTGLP


first time on 7 days?
 Quoting: boku82


Just heard 8 distant booms 4 then another 4 30secs later
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Link please?
Wake up & smell reality.
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Did you guys not hear Netanyahu say that "Hamas REJECTED EVERYTHING"?
CNN is loopy.
 Quoting: Citratox


True and fact!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


I didn't catch that either. Well then, that's it! There is no cease fire and this crap is gonna get MUCH worse now.
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other flares!
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Just see a fire on rt?
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IDF ‏@IDFSpokesperson

Cpl. Yosef Fartuk, 18, from Emmanuel, was killed earlier today by a rocket fired from Gaza into Israel. His family has been notified.

2 Mins ago posted
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Now, that's a name! LOL
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I'm sure nobody busted his chops in HS
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Listening on RT.

The booms sound very much like tank fire.

The buzzing could be a C-130 in the distance. If it is a c-130 gunship, the boom sounds could be coming from the aircraft cannon.

Any veterans with thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


i dont hear any booms,just drones..
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OMG!!!
Netanyahu: Our Hand Grasps the Sword of David
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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Listening on RT.

The booms sound very much like tank fire.

The buzzing could be a C-130 in the distance. If it is a c-130 gunship, the boom sounds could be coming from the aircraft cannon.

Any veterans with thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


It's "AC-130" and it sounds nothing like that. It's a UAV.

Last Edited by Adventus Domini on 11/20/2012 01:16 PM
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Listening on RT.

The booms sound very much like tank fire.

The buzzing could be a C-130 in the distance. If it is a c-130 gunship, the boom sounds could be coming from the aircraft cannon.

Any veterans with thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


could be tanks....
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Tonga 9.2 incoming very soon.

You people have no idea what is about to occur because you STILL deny and are deaf to God's Voice.

HEAR!

Turn to Jesus Christ Today.
Ask Him to forgive you of your sins!
Follow HIM!

The end is not near.
IT IS HERE!

In Jesus Christ!
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But Israel does not have any large navy ships does it??? i know they dont have destoryers.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Same here...but those fires really sounded like a destroyer cannon.
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IDF strike in south Gaza.
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better sound here

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OMG!!!
Netanyahu: Our Hand Grasps the Sword of David
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


"Our hand is outstretched in peace to those of our neighbors who want to make peace with us," Netanyahu said in a statement issued by his office, "and the other hand is firmly grasping the sword of David against those who wish to uproot us from this country."

THIS MAN IS CRAZY!
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Listening on RT.

The booms sound very much like tank fire.

The buzzing could be a C-130 in the distance. If it is a c-130 gunship, the boom sounds could be coming from the aircraft cannon.

Any veterans with thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


It's "AC-130" and it sounds nothing like that. It's UAVs.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Yep, those drones are last days in my head afro

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