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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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red alert!!!
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where?
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Somewhere with audio range of this camera feed.

[link to rt.com]
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

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It could be. It is a massive crater, with multiple hits and mini craters. People walking in it right now.

Anyone make out what the speaker on the PA system was saying?
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red alert!!!
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where?
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Somewhere with audio range of this camera feed.

[link to rt.com]
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Meant this feed. Opps.

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red alert!!!
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where?
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Somewhere with audio range of this camera feed.

[link to rt.com]
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wrong!!

[link to reuters.livestation.com]

there
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

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It could be. It is a massive crater, with multiple hits and mini craters. People walking in it right now.

Anyone make out what the speaker on the PA system was saying?
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Dayam closeup on RT of that crater. I'm thinking it might be the ministry
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Anyone make out what the speaker on the PA system was saying?
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some sport results
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Palestinians throw Molotov cocktails in the West Bank.

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To be fair, throwing molotov cocktails, throwing large stones on Israeli highways & setting fires in Israeli forests... is practically Palestinian national sport or past-time.

So you see, as UN rights groups would be quick to remind us all in this thread, we shouldn't OPPRESS the Arabs' natural desires to do the whole "BURN DAT MOTHA DOWN KILL PUSSYCAT KILL KILL KILL" thingie.

Cuz you know, it would be RACISS.
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Palestinians also have a right to self-defense.
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Oh ya? I guess Ed Gein should have claimed self-defense -- that he was only acting in self-defense when he disemboweled and ate his victims. You know, cuz their dismissive attitude and looks "opporessed" his natural desires & rightful claims to their tasty brain-matter. And stuff.

Yep, like I said many times upthread, it's ISLAMIC/MARXIST 1984. Good is evil. Terrorsm is self-defense. Suicide bombing of children is "resistance". Abraham, Moses and Jesus are "Muslim prophets".

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Good Mourning all
lol
I need a SITREP.

Has the ceasefire being canceled?
Do we see boots on the ground soon?
Any missiles lobbed agiasnt hamas or Israel?

Good morning = Goede morgen, in dutch.
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Palastinians will have the right to apply to court and eventually be able to hold Israel accountable for war crimes.

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wouldn't that just shit the crowd.
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Analogy with the Apartheid regime in South Afrika is uncanny! Israel will be held accountable. Some day, not soon though. And nobody cares today...this does not mean I condone terrorism. I just see that the ANC was a terror cell at one point too.
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South Africa knows Isael's cordial relationship with Apartheid,,, the two had similar interests on how to manage a captive people. It wasnt an economic interest like England or US, but how to subdue a restive people.
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

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It could be. It is a massive crater, with multiple hits and mini craters. People walking in it right now.

Anyone make out what the speaker on the PA system was saying?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Dayam closeup on RT of that crater. I'm thinking it might be the ministry
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Oh no where they gonna held the cabinet meetings now ?verysad
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Good Mourning all
lol
I need a SITREP.

Has the ceasefire being canceled?
Do we see boots on the ground soon?
Any missiles lobbed agiasnt hamas or Israel?

Good morning = Goede morgen, in dutch.
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Same shit Good morning to you too
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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@pdanahar
The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

 Quoting: snark


It could be. It is a massive crater, with multiple hits and mini craters. People walking in it right now.

Anyone make out what the speaker on the PA system was saying?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Dayam closeup on RT of that crater. I'm thinking it might be the ministry
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I count 5 potential craters.
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

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It could be. It is a massive crater, with multiple hits and mini craters. People walking in it right now.

Anyone make out what the speaker on the PA system was saying?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Dayam closeup on RT of that crater. I'm thinking it might be the ministry
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Pulverised... that's the definition of the word right there.

Wow!
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dont know, what we see exactly on rt, but i wonder, why so much rubble and most of the trees seem to be ok

offtopic:
snark, please, can you change your picture...?

its quite confusing
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whats with RT?
We gonna look at a pothole all day?
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Good Mourning all
lol
I need a SITREP.

Has the ceasefire being canceled?
Do we see boots on the ground soon?
Any missiles lobbed agiasnt hamas or Israel?

Good morning = Goede morgen, in dutch.
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Goede morgen!!!

its about the same as it has been...

both sides attacking

no word on boots?

its still likely

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Cast Lead Ceasefire: IDF Enters Gaza if Rocket Attacks Resume

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then ...they gotta go in...

unless they wanna appear weak...

they cant afford to appear weak...

Honestly... I have no doubts that Iran is setting Israel up
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that article is a 'what if' scenario I think.

it is basically saying Hamas has violated the last cease fire agreement over 1000 times
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The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1][5]

Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[6]

In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.2 million in 2012) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty itself plus 13 years' interest.
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

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So that's what a smithereen looks like! I always wondered.
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SHOW THE FUCKING IMPACTS REUTERS!!!
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dont know, what we see exactly on rt, but i wonder, why so much rubble and most of the trees seem to be ok

offtopic:
snark, please, can you change your picture...?

its quite confusing
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Good idea!

We will all vote on snark's new picture eh?


What did you have in mind for snark? Flowers? An Ardvark?

LMAO! hf
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Cast Lead Ceasefire: IDF Enters Gaza if Rocket Attacks Resume

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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then ...they gotta go in...

unless they wanna appear weak...

they cant afford to appear weak...

Honestly... I have no doubts that Iran is setting Israel up
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


that article is a 'what if' scenario I think.

it is basically saying Hamas has violated the last cease fire agreement over 1000 times
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


And Israel has violated it between 999 and 1001...

Yawn!
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Do you think this might be the big crater on RT?

Hamas's main ministry in Gaza has been destroyed, says the BBC's Paul Danahar.

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The huge compound before me has absolutely been laid to waste. It was #Hamas' main ministry in #Gaza Now it's little more than dust & rubble

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So that's what a smithereen looks like! I always wondered.
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Surprised at the standing palm trees though...
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The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1][5]

Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[6]

In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.2 million in 2012) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty itself plus 13 years' interest.
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Maybe the US deserved it. What were they doing there in the first place?
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SHOW THE FUCKING IMPACTS REUTERS!!!
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I think they are still engaging that hill.
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dont know, what we see exactly on rt, but i wonder, why so much rubble and most of the trees seem to be ok

offtopic:
snark, please, can you change your picture...?

its quite confusing
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Good idea!

We will all vote on snark's new picture eh?


What did you have in mind for snark? Flowers? An Ardvark?

LMAO! hf
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a horses arse?
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The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1][5]

Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[6]

In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.2 million in 2012) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty itself plus 13 years' interest.
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Collateral Damage does happen.

While your case isnt what I am describing below... it certainly proves that mistakes DO happen in war...

"Whiskey in the Jar" is the term coined for pilots who mistaken their home base for that of the enemy, and carry out a bombardment of their own base.
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dont know, what we see exactly on rt, but i wonder, why so much rubble and most of the trees seem to be ok

offtopic:
snark, please, can you change your picture...?

its quite confusing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28157244


Good idea!

We will all vote on snark's new picture eh?


What did you have in mind for snark? Flowers? An Ardvark?

LMAO! hf
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hahaha, nothing in mind, but between all this doom,
its confusing seeing she smiling like its best day of the year... ;) hf

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