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C3r371c User ID: 26538634 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:07 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone have a clue what the percentage of people in Palestine who are opposed to hamas is???? Quoting: Angelic_Warrior These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections: Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own. Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject. Thank you for your reply. I was just curious if there were any people there that don't have a terrorist allegiance. Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza. To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily). Wishing civilians dead... you really are a sick person. |
| Angelic_Warrior User ID: 23290196 United States11/21/2012 08:08 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone have a clue what the percentage of people in Palestine who are opposed to hamas is???? Quoting: Angelic_Warrior These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections: Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own. Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject. they rule through fear  Hamas–Fatah conflict Human Rights Watch estimates several hundred Gazans were "maimed" and tortured in the aftermath of the Gaza War. 73 Gazan men accused of "collaborating" had their arms and legs broken by "unidentified perpetrators" and 18 Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel, who had escaped from Gaza's main prison compound after Israel bombed the facility, were executed by Hamas security officials in the first days of the conflict.[136][137] Hamas security forces reportedly shot and tortured Palestinians who opposed Hamas rule in Gaza and openly supported Israel's attack. One victim, recovering from multiple gunshot wounds in the leg, told Human Rights Watch he was "so happy they bombed that I was giving out sweets."[136] In another case, a Palestinian had criticized Hamas in a conversation on the street with some friends. Later that day, more than a dozen armed men with black masks and red kaffiyeh took the man from his home, and brought him to a solitary area where they shot him three times in the lower legs and ankles. The man told Human Rights Watch that he was not politically active.[136] Hamas security forces attacked hundreds Fatah officials who supported Israel. Human Rights Watch interviewed one such person: "There were eight of us sitting there. We were all from Fatah. Then three masked militants broke in. They were dressed in brown camouflage military uniforms; they all had guns. They pointed their guns at us and cursed us, then they began beating us with iron rods, including a 10-year-old boy whom they hit in the face. They said we were "collaborators" and "unfaithful." They beat me with iron sticks and gun butts for 15 minutes. They were yelling: "You are happy that Israel is bombing us!" until people came out of their houses, and they withdrew.[136] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Thx for sharing that. Was laying in bed this morning feeling quite comfortable and thinking of the poor people in the ME and how frightened they must be to close their eyes for fear of a rocket exploding. Then I wondered why don't the "peaceful" people rise up against hamas.. apparently that isn't going to work. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. I Corinthians 2:14 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? I Peter 4:18 It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God |
| ThesonofhendriX User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was brought up in a free country, as a christian but was not forced to obey this religion. I am free! When i see religions like Islam and the way they are forced to live, it looks hideous like living in some kind of prison camp in the darkages. Countries like Iran should not be allowed to exist in the 21st century. or at least they should not be allowed to interact with the rest of the world, and certainly should not be allowed to practise their sick beliefs in other peoples countries. Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with! |
| recollector User ID: 26964049  Romania11/21/2012 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cons 28196357 These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections: Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own. Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject. Thank you for your reply. I was just curious if there were any people there that don't have a terrorist allegiance. Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza. To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily). Wishing civilians dead... you really are a sick person. Have issues with reading? HAMAS is wishing civilians dead... Last Edited by recollector on 11/21/2012 08:10 AM recollector |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19897785 United States11/21/2012 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you so silly Quoting: Anonymous Coward you funny funny me laugh so hard you laugh me long time GI yes joey they do they make sand bags out of babies and and joey they take the baybags and use them as shields, in the tunnels ......joey......... in the tunnels Finklestein Lives For I am Finklestein Ok well you said it. yes joey i just read you a fictional bed time story now you go off to bed little man you have school in the morning Finklestein Lives For I am Finklestein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26267834 11/21/2012 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza. Quoting: recollector To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily). Yeah...BUT Hamas was democratically elected in Gaza so they practically did this to themselves ! It is very sad what is happening to civilians in Gaza but they knew Hamas was a terrorist organization when they elected them and now they suffer the consequences...unfortunately ! |
| jahbulon49 User ID: 27374765  Netherlands11/21/2012 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel Quoting: ThesonofhendriX NAVAL POWER Total Navy Ships: 64 Merchant Marine Strength: 10 [2011] Major Ports & Terminals: 4 Aircraft Carriers: 0 [2011] Destroyers: 0 [2011] Submarines: 3 [2011] Frigates: 0 [2011] Patrol Craft: 42 [2011] Mine Warfare Craft: 0 [2011] Amphibious Assault Craft: 0 [2011] You forgot one... Backup Fleet: USA Naval Forces Please do not forget the entire Dutch Navy that will stand side to side with the Israeli and American navy when it comes to the point. ;-) Our new minister of foreign affairs seems to be a bit pro Palestina tho... I'm not so sure we would help Israel that easily. The new minister of foreign affairs can be all pro-Palestinian the minister would like to be, but I can assure you the Dutch Navy is needed when shit hits the fan over there. This is the exact same reason the Dutch were there in Libya as one of the first. The Royal-HasKoning employee they had to pick up in Sirte was a former member of the Dutch Army's Special Forces (KCT) and he was in Sirte because he took a huge amount of pictures from buildings and objects that were bombed not so many time after the Dutch helicopter was caught and the Dutch soldiers were captured. Besides that the Dutch navy already is deployed in the Israeli area just like they are actively deployed in the Persian Gulf area. Just saying, if you know what or where to look at, you could see all the signs for something big about to be happening! Do NOT underestimate the options in which this situation could unfold within the next couple of days. Why do you think the United States Navy has 3 ships on their way to Israel in order to get people evacuated when the shit really starts pounding of the door to the room where all the "fans" are located?!?!? Jahbulonian Pride! |
| ThesonofhendriX User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's boring now that Gaza is the only one getting hit. I liked it better when the shit was hitting the fan on both sides of the fence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002 Dude its only just ramping up. more escalation to come. More sides could join in the coming days,. Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with! |
| Angelic_Warrior User ID: 23290196 United States11/21/2012 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Angelic_Warrior on 11/21/2012 08:14 AM But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. I Corinthians 2:14 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? I Peter 4:18 It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27800002 United States11/21/2012 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jenan Moussa @jenanmoussa Acc 2 @almanarnews, Popular Front for Liberation of #Palestine -General Command (PFLP - GC) claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing. Jenan Moussa @jenanmoussa #pt: PFLP - GC who claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing, is very close to #Syria regime, has various camps in #Lebanon. |
| tarfonwxx User ID: 4695650 United States11/21/2012 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone have a clue what the percentage of people in Palestine who are opposed to hamas is???? Quoting: Angelic_Warrior These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections: Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own. Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject. they rule through fear Hamas–Fatah conflict Human Rights Watch estimates several hundred Gazans were "maimed" and tortured in the aftermath of the Gaza War. 73 Gazan men accused of "collaborating" had their arms and legs broken by "unidentified perpetrators" and 18 Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel, who had escaped from Gaza's main prison compound after Israel bombed the facility, were executed by Hamas security officials in the first days of the conflict.[136][137] Hamas security forces reportedly shot and tortured Palestinians who opposed Hamas rule in Gaza and openly supported Israel's attack. One victim, recovering from multiple gunshot wounds in the leg, told Human Rights Watch he was "so happy they bombed that I was giving out sweets."[136] In another case, a Palestinian had criticized Hamas in a conversation on the street with some friends. Later that day, more than a dozen armed men with black masks and red kaffiyeh took the man from his home, and brought him to a solitary area where they shot him three times in the lower legs and ankles. The man told Human Rights Watch that he was not politically active.[136] Hamas security forces attacked hundreds Fatah officials who supported Israel. Human Rights Watch interviewed one such person: "There were eight of us sitting there. We were all from Fatah. Then three masked militants broke in. They were dressed in brown camouflage military uniforms; they all had guns. They pointed their guns at us and cursed us, then they began beating us with iron rods, including a 10-year-old boy whom they hit in the face. They said we were "collaborators" and "unfaithful." They beat me with iron sticks and gun butts for 15 minutes. They were yelling: "You are happy that Israel is bombing us!" until people came out of their houses, and they withdrew.[136] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Thx for sharing that. Was laying in bed this morning feeling quite comfortable and thinking of the poor people in the ME and how frightened they must be to close their eyes for fear of a rocket exploding. Then I wondered why don't the "peaceful" people rise up against hamas.. apparently that isn't going to work. It's really one of the most difficult places on earth. If Egypt opened their border to Palestinian refugees that would be a big help, but sadly many use the situation as fodder for the conflict. They don't want to give up the Gazan front. Ideology (on both sides) trumping people's lives is deplorable. |
Dr. Acula Forum Moderator User ID: 87490 United States11/21/2012 08:11 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel Quoting: ThesonofhendriX NAVAL POWER Total Navy Ships: 64 Merchant Marine Strength: 10 [2011] Major Ports & Terminals: 4 Aircraft Carriers: 0 [2011] Destroyers: 0 [2011] Submarines: 3 [2011] Frigates: 0 [2011] Patrol Craft: 42 [2011] Mine Warfare Craft: 0 [2011] Amphibious Assault Craft: 0 [2011] You forgot one... Backup Fleet: USA Naval Forces Please do not forget the entire Dutch Navy that will stand side to side with the Israeli and American navy when it comes to the point. ;-) helemaal niet man, waar heb je het over? nederland moet neutraal blijven, laat ze elkaar maar afmaken. Neutral kauft nur Frieden für so lange. Eines Tages wirst du zu kämpfen haben, oder Arabisch lernen Check out this ---> [link to www.youtube.com] I am a HelpTard, need Help? Ask me! Peace Means Reloading Your Guns! Some of my custom graphics are featured in the Official GLP Store: [link to www.cafepress.com]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28204916 United States11/21/2012 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We see them here in the uk, beating their wifs,, killing their children and family if they look at the wrong man, dressing their wifes up head to toe with only slits for eyes, making them walk behind their husbands several paces. All that shit and far more. You might be working with them and all of a sudden they'll stop drop everything and start praying on the ground. Quoting: ThesonofhendriX its fucking ridiculous. who thought up this shit! Some hallucinating blood thirsty lunatic named Mohammed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17814487 11/21/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel Quoting: ThesonofhendriX NAVAL POWER Total Navy Ships: 64 Merchant Marine Strength: 10 [2011] Major Ports & Terminals: 4 Aircraft Carriers: 0 [2011] Destroyers: 0 [2011] Submarines: 3 [2011] Frigates: 0 [2011] Patrol Craft: 42 [2011] Mine Warfare Craft: 0 [2011] Amphibious Assault Craft: 0 [2011] You forgot one... Backup Fleet: USA Naval Forces Please do not forget the entire Dutch Navy that will stand side to side with the Israeli and American navy when it comes to the point. ;-) helemaal niet man, waar heb je het over? nederland moet neutraal blijven, laat ze elkaar maar afmaken.  zoals we altijd al zijn |
| Angelic_Warrior User ID: 23290196 United States11/21/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza. Quoting: recollector To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily). Yeah...BUT Hamas was democratically elected in Gaza so they practically did this to themselves ! It is very sad what is happening to civilians in Gaza but they knew Hamas was a terrorist organization when they elected them and now they suffer the consequences...unfortunately ! Opps... Kinda like us in the U.S. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. I Corinthians 2:14 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? I Peter 4:18 It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God |
| ThesonofhendriX User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you so silly Quoting: Anonymous Coward you funny funny me laugh so hard you laugh me long time GI yes joey they do they make sand bags out of babies and and joey they take the baybags and use them as shields, in the tunnels ......joey......... in the tunnels Finklestein Lives For I am Finklestein Ok well you said it. yes joey i just read you a fictional bed time story now you go off to bed little man you have school in the morning Finklestein Lives For I am Finklestein So it really is ok for the |IDF to use flame throwers in the tunnels?? You were just messing with me? Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with! |
| Tekunda User ID: 28166825  Germany11/21/2012 08:12 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tis apparently a beautiful country. Iran is gorgeous. The architecture there is truly unbelievable. Museums full of ancient history. Fabulous art and literature. I wish I had the money to go see the ancient site of Babylon in Iraq too. That would be cool. Most of the architecture and science has been stolen by Muslim from the countries they invaded. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995  Canada11/21/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AGENCY FRANCE PRESSE (@AFP): IRANIAN PARLIAMENT SPEAKER ALI LARIJANI SAYS IRAN HAS SENT MILITARY AID TO HAMAS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002 Iran painting itself as a target. Don't you worry Mr Dinnerjacket, you're next. Technically, if true, Iran is at war with Israel no? Well no, because the US gives billions in military aid to Israel, and using your rationale that would mean that the US is waging war on the Palestinians, and in the past, half of the Middle East. Well, yes. If Iran is supplying military aid to a party that is then attacking Israel with it, then Israel is under no obligation to treat Iranian shipping as neutral. And you're right -- a state that's fighting Israel would be justified in preventing US shipping carrying aid to Israel from reaching its destination. Non-state organizations, like Hamas? Hard to say what they can do under international law. |
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| Cons User ID: 28196357  Australia11/21/2012 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone have a clue what the percentage of people in Palestine who are opposed to hamas is???? Quoting: Angelic_Warrior These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections: Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own. Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject. they rule through fear Hamas–Fatah conflict Human Rights Watch estimates several hundred Gazans were "maimed" and tortured in the aftermath of the Gaza War. 73 Gazan men accused of "collaborating" had their arms and legs broken by "unidentified perpetrators" and 18 Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel, who had escaped from Gaza's main prison compound after Israel bombed the facility, were executed by Hamas security officials in the first days of the conflict.[136][137] Hamas security forces reportedly shot and tortured Palestinians who opposed Hamas rule in Gaza and openly supported Israel's attack. One victim, recovering from multiple gunshot wounds in the leg, told Human Rights Watch he was "so happy they bombed that I was giving out sweets."[136] In another case, a Palestinian had criticized Hamas in a conversation on the street with some friends. Later that day, more than a dozen armed men with black masks and red kaffiyeh took the man from his home, and brought him to a solitary area where they shot him three times in the lower legs and ankles. The man told Human Rights Watch that he was not politically active.[136] Hamas security forces attacked hundreds Fatah officials who supported Israel. Human Rights Watch interviewed one such person: "There were eight of us sitting there. We were all from Fatah. Then three masked militants broke in. They were dressed in brown camouflage military uniforms; they all had guns. They pointed their guns at us and cursed us, then they began beating us with iron rods, including a 10-year-old boy whom they hit in the face. They said we were "collaborators" and "unfaithful." They beat me with iron sticks and gun butts for 15 minutes. They were yelling: "You are happy that Israel is bombing us!" until people came out of their houses, and they withdrew.[136] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Thx for sharing that. Was laying in bed this morning feeling quite comfortable and thinking of the poor people in the ME and how frightened they must be to close their eyes for fear of a rocket exploding. Then I wondered why don't the "peaceful" people rise up against hamas.. apparently that isn't going to work. Now you understand. People will never rise against Hamas as it is legitimate ruler of Palestine territory. You can also have a look at the image bellow (green Hamas, red Fatah) and see clearly that Hamas has overwhelming support even in the West-Bank. [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Cheers |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19897785 United States11/21/2012 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's boring now that Gaza is the only one getting hit. I liked it better when the shit was hitting the fan on both sides of the fence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002 ya ya more killing ya ya more guts flying ya ya more death ya ya kill kill kill ya ya ya what another one who is mistaking boredom for being an IDIOT shit its contagious ok nice talking to you you have a great day bye love ya bye ok bye Finklestein Lives For I am Finklestein |
| godzilla85 G User ID: 1077295 United States11/21/2012 08:15 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza. Quoting: recollector To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily). Yeah...BUT Hamas was democratically elected in Gaza so they practically did this to themselves ! It is very sad what is happening to civilians in Gaza but they knew Hamas was a terrorist organization when they elected them and now they suffer the consequences...unfortunately ! exactly, just like the majority in my country elected president numbnuts...now they gotta deal with his antics for four more years. As the saying goes " you make your bed, now sleep in it.." "the only limits we have are the ones that we set for ourselves.." I provide analysis on a myriad of int'l issues...if you don't like my opinion...I don't care I'm not here to please you. |
