"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Israel killed its subcontractor in Gaza

"But that was the reality for the past five and a half years. Israel demanded of Hamas that it observe the truce in the south and enforce it on the multiplicity of armed organizations in the Gaza Strip. The man responsible for carrying out this policy was Ahmed Jabari."

Sounds like a liberal slap piece, but there is probably some truth here.

There is no Palestine. It doesn't exist.

New attacks on central gaza city, israeli vessel hit by missile

Live Updates: Operation Pillar of Defense on Terror Targets in Gaza

IDF defence forces....

[link to www.idfblog.com]

www.ustream.tv/channel/operation-pillar-of-cloud

Please translated (breaking) info from webcam :)

It works to me. The guy says Israeli tanks are into Gaza.

BS to me, cause MSM are silent.

11:39 P.M. National Security Minister Avi Dichter in Be'er Sheva: We have no intention to end this round of fighting and suffer more hits in the next. During Operation Cast Lead we didn't have Iron Dome batteries. This time, we do (Gili Cohen)

The real terrorists are on both sides.

Fuck them both.

I laugh every time one of them die, jews and muslims killing each other = winning!

LOL!!!!!

As if Syria has the moral compass at hand to hand out such judgments? LMAO!!!!

source Ustream?

Ger - who is reporting that an Israeli vessel was hit? I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere.

Speculation is for retards. Live feeds IN GAZA are for winners.

Here you go: LIve feed IN GAZA

[link to www.ustream.tv]

From an America, you expect people to take you serious when talking about Morals? Come on, get rail.

I will transcribe the updates as they come.

There is no Israel. Israel is the name of the American military forward base in the middle-east. At some point, it will go away.

You are correct, of course...

I was just correct the muslim terrorist supporter's lies.

In reality, they are gazain muslim terrorists.

You're right about the terrorists being on both sides.

You're wrong to imply that needless death is in any way funny or good.

Obama: "The best is yet to come" Really?

Posted on 13. Nov, 2012

When President Obama tried to get a real Middle East peace process going by calling on Israel to halt its illegal settlement activity and his “Yes, we can” became “No, we can’t”, I dared to invest some hope in the idea that in a second term he would use the leverage all presidents have to oblige Israel to end its defiance of international law and be serious about peace on terms the Palestinians could accept. And that investment was not the consequence of mere wishful thinking on my part.

There were two main reasons for my cautious optimism.

The first was (and is today even more so) in the fact that behind closed doors in Washington D.C. top military and security people are completely aware that it’s no longer in America’s own best interests to go on supporting the Zionist (not Jewish) state right or wrong.

The second was my knowledge from sources I trust that Obama has always understood that without an acceptable measure of justice for the Palestinians there could be no end to the conflict, only catastrophe for all. When he was preparing for his first run for the White House, he told a close American-Palestinian friend not to expect too much from him in his first term but to be optimistic about what he could and would do in a second term. (I took that to mean that Obama was fully aware of a fundamental truth expressed to me by former President Carter. As I have stated in previous articles, he said that any American president has only two windows of opportunity to take on the Zionist lobby, the second window being the last year of his second term – i.e. after the mid-term elections of the second term).

Today there is a third reason for cautious optimism. It was summed up in a Ha-aretz headline over an article by Akiva Eldar on 12 November – American Jews are giving up on Israel.

His opening two paragraphs were the following:
The most worrying news that came out of the U.S. presidential elections was that American Jews seem to have lost interest in Israel. Just 10 percent of American-Jewish voters said Israel was their highest priority when they went to the polls, according to a recent exit poll conducted by the pro-peace Israel lobby J Street. Nine out of 10 said domestic issues like job rates and health care were their top concerns. This is despite the fact that the Republicans and Jewish activists, many of whom are supporters of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told countless horror stories about what they described as Barack Obama's plot to throw Israel to the Iranian wolves.

These statistics support the analysis of political commentator Peter Beinart, an associate professor at the City University of New York's Graduate School of Journalism, who argues that the ongoing occupation and the revelations of Israeli racism have distanced American Jews from Israel and from the Zionist idea.

And then there’s this. For a recent study two researchers from the California State University and the Hebrew Union College asked young American Jews whether they would regard Israel’s destruction as a personal tragedy. Fifty percent said they would not.

In a commentary on this finding for the Connecticut edition of the Jewish Ledger, Eric Mandel (a supporter of Israel right or wrong) asked why young American Jews do not feel connected to Israel. His answer included this:
“One explanation is that many young American Jews feel that Zionism conflicts with their liberal values. Raised on the ideal of universalism and exposed to post-nationalist ideology on campus, they cannot grasp how a nation state of and for a particular people is not racist by definition.
“More importantly, many young Jews are compelled by the Palestinian narrative of victimhood. They have internalized the belief that the underdog is always an innocent victim and holds the moral high ground, and they cannot give their allegiance to the ‘oppressor.’ The anti-Israel bias at many schools, particularly in Middle East studies departments, reinforces these negative views, as does the propaganda of anti-Israel campus movements like BDS. There is cause for concern that the American Diaspora’s support for Israel will not be inevitable.”

What all this suggests to me is that a growing number of American Jews are beginning to understand that it’s only by distancing themselves from the Zionist monster that they can best protect their own interests. As I have previously argued (it bears repeating), what we are witnessing in the world today is a rising global tide of anti-Israelism, which is NOT anti-Semitism. The danger is that it could be transformed into classical anti-Semitism if American and European Jews do not distance themselves from the Zionist state and its crimes.

It has never been a secret that the Zionist lobby in all of its manifestations does not speak for most American Jews. In recent years, for example, polls taken by various Jewish institutions and organizations have indicated that AIPAC, the dictator of American policy on all matters to do with the Israel-Palestine conflict, represents the views and wishes of not more than 25 per cent of American Jews.

Continue to read:
[link to www.opinion-maker.org]

Another strawman.

Syria has no place at this table, and you know it.

yes boku my infos was from ustream guy, don't know if he is reliable, back at computer now

[link to www.ustream.tv] explosion!!!

Latest from [link to www.ustream.tv]

2200 (GMT) 5 loud Explosions in central Gaza.

2203 (GMT) Israeli Ministry of Interior has had a rocket hit near it

2204 (GMT) Northeast Gaza has been attacked by IDF.

It is their region, and they have much more right than you Americans do.

okay please more updates from ustream

Last Edited by Poland82 on 11/14/2012 05:06 PM

There is widespread speculation that Egypt might open the Rafah border crossing so that Palestinian civilians could get out of Gaza and Muslim Brotherhood fighters could get in.

[link to rt.com]

I heard it too, but I can't see any fire