"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

yeah just like that opened the gates of hell warning too? How's that one working out for em thus far?

Video - IDF Tank Columns on Border

[link to en.rian.ru]

implying Israel doesn't keep an eye on the Sinai desert, especialy what goes over the border into gaza there, they're not stupid you know...

Yes I know GD85 but I was wondering what people think, with all these troop movement I for one think it's inevitable !

for me it's an error to sub-avaliate them...

they can write anything they want

I agree, or they are prepping for a multifront war, 75K reserve call ups is a large influx of manpower, that takes alot of money to do as well, that's not for show

IDF deploys fifth Iron Dome system near Tel Aviv, months ahead of schedule

A fifth Iron Dome battery was deployed in the Tel Aviv area on Saturday, two months ahead of schedule, over the IDF's Operation Pillar of Defense in Gaza. The system is geared at intercepting medium-range missiles fired by militants in the Strip at central Israel.

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Things are OK.
We havent changed much from our routine life.
The only thing is that wherever we go , we try first to identify the place we should go to in case the siren sounds.
In general, the public opinion is that this time it should be finished in such a way that there will be no future incentive to fire rockets at Israel.As a by product , it seems to me that it is also a show of power for the region which is going thru the "Arab spring"...
Thank you very much for your interest

Morning SZ86



Probably right after Shabbat

Gantz just gave the order

[link to www.jpost.com]

What's your take on it?

IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz instructed the military on Saturday afternoon to increase the rate of strikes on terrorist cells, among them rocket launching squads.

shit, that was real loud explosion just now

If the Gaza operation continues, Likud and Labor primaries and possibly the general election should be postponed, so as to not risk the lives of citizens at the polls, Environmental Protection Minister Gilad Erdan said at a cultural event in Ness Ziona on Saturday.

"It is important to currently keep the nation united around the effort to restore security. After [the operation ends], each person could go out and vote for who they think is worthy to lead," Erdan said.

Cast Lead also began Saturday night...

They're preparing for the ground event.

I understand it sucks in such periods. But Im afraid it will just be another "event" in the long story of the conflict.

Stay safe!

Israel has lost the plot

abu mazen is going to new york nov 29th. palestine will become an observer state. israeli's are going crazy about this. if approved, they could also join the ICC. it allows them to sue israeli's for war crimes. this war has a lot to do about this. those 75000 soldiers are also for the west bank, mark my words. they will not allow abu mazen to leave ramallah.

75,000 troops means only one thing.

Israel will remove the Arabs from Gaza. If they had really big balls, they would attack Iran while everyone was watching Gaza.

Yup, was thinking the exact same thing ! They're probably waiting until tomorrow because today is Sabbath...although I dunno how peaceful it's going to be with all those rockets falling on Israel !

My guess is tomorrow at the break of dawn !

I really hope the IDF managed to destroy enough weapon stockpiles and that Hamas doesn't have too many RPGs...otherwise with all those tanks in an urban environment, it's gonna get messy !

I've spoken to a friend of mine who used to be in the army and he said that when a far superior army like the IDF enters an urban area where terrorists with RPGs can be anywhere, it's best to have your leash off (unlike Lebanon 2006) !

And that basically means, when you encounter heavy resistance in a building, DON'T try and take it with tanks and armored vehicles, call in an airstrike and level the whole thing ! If Israel does this they will have far less casualties than in 2006 IMHO.

any update on morsi making speech?

How long till sundown over there?

it is close 2.30 pm right now

3h tops !

sunset in 2:12

Last Edited by tarfonwxx on 11/17/2012 07:26 AM

Urban warfare is the toughest for sure as history has proved.

Praying for minimal casualties

For those that are talking about a massive war w/ 75,000 troops are you serious? 75,000 troops is nothing. We've been here before folks, multiple times. Incursions happen. Next...

we get dark here at about 5-5.30 pm so i guess its the same in Gaza

Gaza fighters got many anti-tank missiles, keep that in mind