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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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maybe a veto

and maybe a meeting to discuss another meeting to discuss the 1st meeting to discuss the 2nd meeting to arrange a 3rd meeting
 Quoting: Anderson_G


That's exactly what will happen.
 Quoting: curiouslyinterested


I knew it......

is the UN owned by the US ?

serious question by the way
 Quoting: Anderson_G


It's more the other way around I think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25078444


I found this stuff

It would explain alot

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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
Netanyahu and Merkel discuss cease-fire

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Im really getting tired of all talk and no action
 Quoting: littlemiracles


Politics :D
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


I hate Politics!1doh1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I know the feeling

I'm sure the feeling is mutual on their part though
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11/17/2012 12:41 PM

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This is from the IDF blog page so it could be propaganda. But it looks like Morsi, despite all the tough talk, will not agree to keep the Rafah crossing open for Hamas.

Egypt wants Hamas to negotiate a cease-fire, Hamas asks Egypt to open up the Rafah border crossing, Egypt answers "no".

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Newshunter


Why?

Because Egypt doesn't want Palestinian refugees running into Egypt.

Libyan and Syrian refugees are everywhere, but the door is closed to the Palestinians.

Ain't that some shit?
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Interesting view.. I wonder how America has kept out the Mexicans all these years.. Oh that's right. NOT !!! Don't be fooled about open or closed borders. Anything or Anybody can get across at anytime or place. It depends on what or who is coming...
 Quoting: Nlightened


yup yup, what goes into Israel through the tunnels, can go back to Egypt through those same tunnels that connect gaza to egypt. Just saying.
 Quoting: Caliigirl


I understand what you're saying but know that we, too, live with military check points.
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11/17/2012 12:42 PM
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
In case you missed integral version of statement from Egyptian president:

"I am telling the Zionist oppressors that if you insist on your aggression, you will face the consequences of your mistakes, you and those who you think are protecting you... I am saying to Israel stop, or you will face the anger of Egyptians... Our souls are striving for the holy lands... Everyone must know that the will and abilities of Egypt could take out the roots of evil just like it took out the roots of oppression... Read history and you would know that you will never become victorious... There will be no peace or prosperity with oppression, as the bloods of victims will be a curse on you and will move all nations against you... The Zionists shall not have power over the people of Gaza, and we are not going to leave Gaza alone."

- President @Mursi Friday night.

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11/17/2012 12:43 PM
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Here we go again!
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11/17/2012 12:43 PM
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BiBi is not willing to risk a ground incursion this close to the elections, however I dunno how effective these drone strikes are going to be at stopping the rocket attacks from Gaza !
 Quoting: subzero86


about as effective as a misquito.. PIss off the guy long enough and he will quit waving his hands and use a fly swatter.
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11/17/2012 12:43 PM
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
Netanyahu and Merkel discuss cease-fire

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27933122


Oh. Good .. Peace Will Come.. Beni and Israel will live in harmony alongside their lifelong enemies... Tell that to the sheep with the Lions ready to pounce.. What a Joke this is getting to be.. I have to agree The Diplomatic process is really broken every in The World... It is not a Israel/ Gazza Issue.. It's a WORLD Issue...
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11/17/2012 12:44 PM
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In case you missed integral version of statement from Egyptian president:

"I am telling the Zionist oppressors that if you insist on your aggression, you will face the consequences of your mistakes, you and those who you think are protecting you... I am saying to Israel stop, or you will face the anger of Egyptians... Our souls are striving for the holy lands... Everyone must know that the will and abilities of Egypt could take out the roots of evil just like it took out the roots of oppression... Read history and you would know that you will never become victorious... There will be no peace or prosperity with oppression, as the bloods of victims will be a curse on you and will move all nations against you... The Zionists shall not have power over the people of Gaza, and we are not going to leave Gaza alone."

- President @Mursi Friday night.

[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Démodé


Hmmmm. Sounds like something Ahmadinijad would say.
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Im really getting tired of all talk and no action
 Quoting: littlemiracles


Politics :D
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


I hate Politics!1doh1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I know the feeling

I'm sure the feeling is mutual on their part though
 Quoting: Anderson_G


At one point I considered going into political life, even wanted to be the POTUS. Then I found I had ZERO tolerance for BS and could never play the game. It all just frustrates the fuck out of me.
ISO

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11/17/2012 12:45 PM
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Netanyahu and Merkel discuss cease-fire

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27933122


What kind of leader intent on punishing an enemy once and for all sits around discussing how to calm down?

Netanyahu is a soft leader. I'm sorry, but he's pathetic.

A real strong leader doesn't sit around talking to the entire world about ceasefires during operations like this. I'm starting to believe ISrael will be wiped out in the end, and it's only because they have grown soft in the face of social media and instant information.
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11/17/2012 12:45 PM
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Emergency UN Security Council meeting scheduled in 3 hours
 Quoting: Démodé


Big deal...here comes the next condemnation of Israel from the impotent UN.

Will anyone actually physically lift a finger to help Gaza? No.

The Muslim world as a whole is a disgrace.
 Quoting: ISO


this.
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In case you missed integral version of statement from Egyptian president:

"I am telling the Zionist oppressors that if you insist on your aggression, you will face the consequences of your mistakes, you and those who you think are protecting you... I am saying to Israel stop, or you will face the anger of Egyptians... Our souls are striving for the holy lands... Everyone must know that the will and abilities of Egypt could take out the roots of evil just like it took out the roots of oppression... Read history and you would know that you will never become victorious... There will be no peace or prosperity with oppression, as the bloods of victims will be a curse on you and will move all nations against you... The Zionists shall not have power over the people of Gaza, and we are not going to leave Gaza alone."

- President @Mursi Friday night.

[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Démodé


Thanks for that, hadn't seen it.
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Why?

Because Egypt doesn't want Palestinian refugees running into Egypt.

Libyan and Syrian refugees are everywhere, but the door is closed to the Palestinians.

Ain't that some shit?
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Interesting view.. I wonder how America has kept out the Mexicans all these years.. Oh that's right. NOT !!! Don't be fooled about open or closed borders. Anything or Anybody can get across at anytime or place. It depends on what or who is coming...
 Quoting: Nlightened


yup yup, what goes into Israel through the tunnels, can go back to Egypt through those same tunnels that connect gaza to egypt. Just saying.
 Quoting: Caliigirl


I understand what you're saying but know that we, too, live with military check points.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Yeah, the only problem with that is that the check points can be corrupted or those that secretly move about.. Don't use them...
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
In case you missed integral version of statement from Egyptian president:

"I am telling the Zionist oppressors that if you insist on your aggression, you will face the consequences of your mistakes, you and those who you think are protecting you... I am saying to Israel stop, or you will face the anger of Egyptians... Our souls are striving for the holy lands... Everyone must know that the will and abilities of Egypt could take out the roots of evil just like it took out the roots of oppression... Read history and you would know that you will never become victorious... There will be no peace or prosperity with oppression, as the bloods of victims will be a curse on you and will move all nations against you... The Zionists shall not have power over the people of Gaza, and we are not going to leave Gaza alone."

- President @Mursi Friday night.

[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Démodé


Hmmmm. Sounds like something Ahmadinijad would say.
 Quoting: curiouslyinterested


Exactly! Muslim Brotherhood(s) seem to be consolidating in deadly ring around Israel.

Therefore - 75,000 troops.
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Politics :D
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


I hate Politics!1doh1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I know the feeling

I'm sure the feeling is mutual on their part though
 Quoting: Anderson_G


At one point I considered going into political life, even wanted to be the POTUS. Then I found I had ZERO tolerance for BS and could never play the game. It all just frustrates the fuck out of me.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


so did I but then I realised the only way I could do politics is via revolution
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11/17/2012 12:48 PM
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There won't be a ground invasion. Netanyahu has an election in a few weeks. Last thing he wants to see is body bags returning to Tel Aviv, Jerusalem. Only a joker in the pack move, like Egypt getting involved or even Hezbollah, will change that. And I don't think that will happen.
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11/17/2012 12:48 PM
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Hamas commander of air defense was assesinated
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so were the little children.
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11/17/2012 12:49 PM
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Egyptian PM: "Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the peace process"
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In other words:
Egyptian PM:"Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the 1.5Bn a year the US gives us"
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I hate Politics!1doh1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I know the feeling

I'm sure the feeling is mutual on their part though
 Quoting: Anderson_G


At one point I considered going into political life, even wanted to be the POTUS. Then I found I had ZERO tolerance for BS and could never play the game. It all just frustrates the fuck out of me.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


so did I but then I realised the only way I could do politics is via revolution
 Quoting: Anderson_G


If i went to politics i would end up as JFK...
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11/17/2012 12:50 PM
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Saudi idiot:

Israel has no right to re-destroy Gaza.

Someone hasn't seen the live feeds......Gaza wasn't destroyed and isn't now. The growing chorus of condemnations is deja vu from 2008. Only a matter of hours now before Netanyahu becomes the pussy he claimed Ehud Olmert was.
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So we may have another week of air strikes before we will see ceasefire talks and then once a ceasefire is brokered things will settle down to same pattern. In essence, this skirmish has changed nothing. It will take Israel attacking Iran or indeed vice versa to change the dynamic.
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Saudi idiot:

Israel has no right to re-destroy Gaza.

Someone hasn't seen the live feeds......Gaza wasn't destroyed and isn't now. The growing chorus of condemnations is deja vu from 2008. Only a matter of hours now before Netanyahu becomes the pussy he claimed Ehud Olmert was.
 Quoting: ISO


to stop now is political suicide for them
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I know the feeling

I'm sure the feeling is mutual on their part though
 Quoting: Anderson_G


At one point I considered going into political life, even wanted to be the POTUS. Then I found I had ZERO tolerance for BS and could never play the game. It all just frustrates the fuck out of me.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


so did I but then I realised the only way I could do politics is via revolution
 Quoting: Anderson_G


If i went to politics i would end up as JFK...
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


I'd end up as Guy Fawkes
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11/17/2012 12:53 PM
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Any live streams showing gaza instead of that meeting
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11/17/2012 12:53 PM
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RT feed is back

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Netanyahu won't back down. Hamas won't stop firing, that is why. That is why he won't back down, because HAMAS won't stop firing, they have had half their leadership liquidated, and their weapons caches destroyed, they will fire until they can all become martyrs.
What?
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11/17/2012 12:55 PM
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Here is a short clip when rocket struck Tel Aviv. You can also see on 0:45 first one being intercepted by iron dome system. This is amateur clip taken most likely by Israeli arab from south Tel Aviv.

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11/17/2012 12:56 PM
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Egyptian PM: "Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the peace process"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27933034


In other words:
Egyptian PM:"Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the 1.5Bn a year the US gives us"
 Quoting: 8200


Exactly, Egypt wont do shit





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