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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Netanyahu won't back down. Hamas won't stop firing, that is why. That is why he won't back down, because HAMAS won't stop firing, they have had half their leadership liquidated, and their weapons caches destroyed, they will fire until they can all become martyrs.
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


Yes he will. The writing is on the wall. The same pattern of international condemnation is occuring. The next step is media coverage of protests IN Israel.

With Egypt's new attitude supported by Obama, Netanyahu is going to slink out in an effort to save face. The saving face part will include some concession which will anger the right in Israel. Same old thing. Netanyahu is going to really damage Israel with this game he is playing.
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Egyptian PM: "Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the peace process"
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In other words:
Egyptian PM:"Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the 1.5Bn a year the US gives us"
 Quoting: 8200


Exactly, Egypt wont do shit
 Quoting: strikeforce


Muslim Brotherhood World Wide Unite....
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.

Last Edited by Dapurps on 11/17/2012 01:00 PM
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Fog of war, confuse your enemy.
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


if there was a ground invasion...

There would be a temporary cease fire from Israel...

you dont wanna bomb your own people into mince meat
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


They have been saying invasion/ceasefire for the past 36 hours......
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Netanyahu won't back down. Hamas won't stop firing, that is why. That is why he won't back down, because HAMAS won't stop firing, they have had half their leadership liquidated, and their weapons caches destroyed, they will fire until they can all become martyrs.
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


Yes he will. The writing is on the wall. The same pattern of international condemnation is occuring. The next step is media coverage of protests IN Israel.

With Egypt's new attitude supported by Obama, Netanyahu is going to slink out in an effort to save face. The saving face part will include some concession which will anger the right in Israel. Same old thing. Netanyahu is going to really damage Israel with this game he is playing.
 Quoting: ISO


You do realize that Beni and Obama are not friends right.. Israel and the US really are not Allies. It's only an illusion. What's the saying.. Keep your enemies close and keep your friends closer.. Or is it the other way around..
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Netanyahu won't back down. Hamas won't stop firing, that is why. That is why he won't back down, because HAMAS won't stop firing, they have had half their leadership liquidated, and their weapons caches destroyed, they will fire until they can all become martyrs.
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


Yes he will. The writing is on the wall. The same pattern of international condemnation is occuring. The next step is media coverage of protests IN Israel.

With Egypt's new attitude supported by Obama, Netanyahu is going to slink out in an effort to save face. The saving face part will include some concession which will anger the right in Israel. Same old thing. Netanyahu is going to really damage Israel with this game he is playing.
 Quoting: ISO


Listen. It's not up to Netanyahu. If Israel keeps getting hit, then he MUST defend it. There is no other option. If more Israelis die, and he does nothing, Israel will turn into Syria. They know this, and they won't let that happen. It's not up to him, his position is reactionary, this is why he won't back down, he doesn't have that luxury. His meetings to discuss cease-fires are there to please the West and have them feel that Israel isn't completely off the chain.
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Unconfirmed reports of Israel getting ready to move in.

Massive air raids.
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


in the last minutes no attacked Israel and no rocket from Gaza
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Unconfirmed reports of Israel getting ready to move in.

Massive air raids.
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Preparing the ground. They will move in i would say
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Egyptian PM: "Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the peace process"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27933034


In other words:
Egyptian PM:"Time has come to fully, completely, and comprehensively reconsider ... the 1.5Bn a year the US gives us"
 Quoting: 8200


Exactly, Egypt wont do shit
 Quoting: strikeforce


Muslim Brotherhood World Wide Unite....
 Quoting: Nlightened


As of these latest events, people tend to remember 2008 as similar situation.

I think 1973 on steroids is more likely to happen.

Absolutely NO SOLUTION will come out of this.
This is a road to nowhere.
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Unconfirmed reports of Israel getting ready to move in.

Massive air raids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27932600


source?
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Harry Shitstain still spreading his crap

"massive airraids" and "ground invasion"

Just like yesterday, and day before... oh and day before
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Learn from history. When you see patterns being repeated, you already know what the outcome will be. Israel was given 48 hours to go in and take Hamas on. They sat on their hands and did jack shit.

Now the world is saying OK, we can't ignore this anymore for you, you have to stop and go home now. And....Israel will. No ground invasion, nothing. If you ever wonder why it takes 2-4 days before the condemnations start, it's because Israel actually had the green light from the rest of the world, including the Muslims if you can wrap you head around that one! Proof is in the pudding.

The world gave Israel a critical period of time to go in and settle the score, and they failed to take the hint. Brutal, fatal mistake by Netanyahu and any true supporter of Israel should be very disappointed in him.
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


They have been saying invasion/ceasefire for the past 36 hours......
 Quoting: Nexus News


THIS is the Genius of Israel. They are keeping Hamas on their toes.

THIS is exactly what Alexander the Great did at the battle of the Indus. The Indians kept thinking he was on the way to attack, then he wouldn't, then he would move again, then it was a feign, for 4 months this dragged on, until they actually did attack, the Indians were caught off guard because they never expected Alexander to attack, because of how much mis-information there was and the illusion of maneuvering.
What?
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Fog of war, confuse your enemy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26837644


Yep seems logical but its pretty annoying. Im gonna stick to what Trins been saying.

This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


if there was a ground invasion...

There would be a temporary cease fire from Israel...

you dont wanna bomb your own people into mince meat
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Very possible explanation.

This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


They have been saying invasion/ceasefire for the past 36 hours......
 Quoting: Nexus News


Yep gonna side with Trinity on this one.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Tweets coming in and Harry.

Take it however you want.
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Israel intends to permanently remove the Arabs squatting in Gaza to Sinai.
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Unconfirmed reports of Israel getting ready to move in.

Massive air raids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27932600


source? twitter, or ???
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


They have been saying invasion/ceasefire for the past 36 hours......
 Quoting: Nexus News


THIS is the Genius of Israel. They are keeping Hamas on their toes.

THIS is exactly what Alexander the Great did at the battle of the Indus. The Indians kept thinking he was on the way to attack, then he wouldn't, then he would move again, then it was a feign, for 4 months this dragged on, until they actually did attack, the Indians were caught off guard because they never expected Alexander to attack, because of how much mis-information there was and the illusion of maneuvering.
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~

What?
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Netanyahu won't back down. Hamas won't stop firing, that is why. That is why he won't back down, because HAMAS won't stop firing, they have had half their leadership liquidated, and their weapons caches destroyed, they will fire until they can all become martyrs.
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


Yes he will. The writing is on the wall. The same pattern of international condemnation is occuring. The next step is media coverage of protests IN Israel.

With Egypt's new attitude supported by Obama, Netanyahu is going to slink out in an effort to save face. The saving face part will include some concession which will anger the right in Israel. Same old thing. Netanyahu is going to really damage Israel with this game he is playing.
 Quoting: ISO


You do realize that Beni and Obama are not friends right.. Israel and the US really are not Allies. It's only an illusion. What's the saying.. Keep your enemies close and keep your friends closer.. Or is it the other way around..
 Quoting: Nlightened


Of course I know Obama's allegiances are with the Muslims who wish to destroy Israel. That's why I say EGYPT's new attitude SUPPORTED BY Obama.
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Busloads of Egyptians to act as human shields for Hamas tomorrow.

55% reliability.
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[link to glz.co.il]

ceasefire depends on Hamas
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Can I have the links to the Ustream gaza streams if they are still running
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Can I have the links to the Ustream gaza streams if they are still running
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[link to rt.com]
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Obama is no friend to Israel.
She is standing completely alone. Im not even going to try and predict what will happen because the situation is too volatile to predict and we aren't privy to the intelligence info these governments are.
I am wondering though what exactly Israel has accomplished if she stops now. We've seen this pattern a million times before.
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This is getting quite confusing. News and post are saying completely opposite claims. Some are saying possible cease fire and others are saying ground invasion happening soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Learn from history. When you see patterns being repeated, you already know what the outcome will be. Israel was given 48 hours to go in and take Hamas on. They sat on their hands and did jack shit.

Now the world is saying OK, we can't ignore this anymore for you, you have to stop and go home now. And....Israel will. No ground invasion, nothing. If you ever wonder why it takes 2-4 days before the condemnations start, it's because Israel actually had the green light from the rest of the world, including the Muslims if you can wrap you head around that one! Proof is in the pudding.

The world gave Israel a critical period of time to go in and settle the score, and they failed to take the hint. Brutal, fatal mistake by Netanyahu and any true supporter of Israel should be very disappointed in him.
 Quoting: ISO


Can't see it playing out like this. Israel knows if they back down this time then its over for them. They can't keep tolerating constant attacks. They need to finish this for once, otherwise it'll be a constant back and forth like it's been for years until Iran can finally attack.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Can I have the links to the Ustream gaza streams if they are still running
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[link to rt.com]
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Netanyahu won't back down. Hamas won't stop firing, that is why. That is why he won't back down, because HAMAS won't stop firing, they have had half their leadership liquidated, and their weapons caches destroyed, they will fire until they can all become martyrs.
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


Yes he will. The writing is on the wall. The same pattern of international condemnation is occuring. The next step is media coverage of protests IN Israel.

With Egypt's new attitude supported by Obama, Netanyahu is going to slink out in an effort to save face. The saving face part will include some concession which will anger the right in Israel. Same old thing. Netanyahu is going to really damage Israel with this game he is playing.
 Quoting: ISO


You do realize that Beni and Obama are not friends right.. Israel and the US really are not Allies. It's only an illusion. What's the saying.. Keep your enemies close and keep your friends closer.. Or is it the other way around..
 Quoting: Nlightened


Of course I know Obama's allegiances are with the Muslims who wish to destroy Israel. That's why I say EGYPT's new attitude SUPPORTED BY Obama.
 Quoting: ISO


So when the time comes to fight. What will the US forces do.. Side with Egypt or Israel..





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