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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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A Song or Psalm of Asaph.

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: The tabernacles of Edom (Egypt), and the Ishmaelites (Saudia Arabia); of Moab, and the Hagarenes (some of Iraq); Gebal (Lebanon), and Ammon (Jordan), and Amalek (Palestinians in general); the Philistines (Palestinians in Gaza) with the inhabitants of Tyre (Lebanon); Assur (Assyrians of Iraq) also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot (Egypt and Jordan). Selah.

Do unto them as unto the Midianites;(Numbers 31:15-18 Everyone Destroyed) as to Sisera (Judges 4:2-3 A peg hammered into his temple), as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Psalm 83 IRL
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The bulldozers say it all.

Israel is trying to obliterate all traces of Palestine as a people and culture. They don't even consider them human.

Same thing the nazis tried on the jews.

Ain't the world just so fucking cute and ironic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27895404


Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


the land 'granted' to them doesn't mean ALL of Palastine.

Jizzrael has stolen almost all of it now by force, almost wiping out all Palastinians in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Wow, talk about blowing it WAY out of proportion. You do know that there really isn't a PEOPLE called Palestinians right? Where do you think the people that created the now states of Syria and Iraq and Saudi Arabia came from?

You also do know that Israel, bigger than it is now existed over 2000 years ago right?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


2000 years ago it was also routine to slaughter the citizens of your enemy and rape their women.

I like to think we've advanced somewhat since then.

The Palestinians, for lack of a better term, are still people who have been (or were) settled there for several centuries. The Israelis refuse to even acknowledge this fact, despite the centuries-old Arab architecture all over the damn place.

You don't just show up, kick out the natives, and force them into a ghetto. You don't run them out and bulldoze their homes and pretend they never existed. You don't continuously sieze ever more land. You don't blockade a poor country with little resources and keep a ban list of everything they need to better themselves.

That is, unless you're Israel. It's practically Space Men vs The Flintstones. Don't even pretend that just because this shit happened, it is in any way justified.
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Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


the land 'granted' to them doesn't mean ALL of Palastine.

Jizzrael has stolen almost all of it now by force, almost wiping out all Palastinians in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Wow, talk about blowing it WAY out of proportion. You do know that there really isn't a PEOPLE called Palestinians right? Where do you think the people that created the now states of Syria and Iraq and Saudi Arabia came from?

You also do know that Israel, bigger than it is now existed over 2000 years ago right?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


oh really..then who are these people being bombed into submission right now?...they sure as hell aint Jews..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410



Palestinians. It's unfortunate, but it's controlled collateral damage brought to you by, Hamassholes.
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Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


the land 'granted' to them doesn't mean ALL of Palastine.

Jizzrael has stolen almost all of it now by force, almost wiping out all Palastinians in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Wow, talk about blowing it WAY out of proportion. You do know that there really isn't a PEOPLE called Palestinians right? Where do you think the people that created the now states of Syria and Iraq and Saudi Arabia came from?

You also do know that Israel, bigger than it is now existed over 2000 years ago right?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


oh really..then who are these people being bombed into submission right now?...they sure as hell aint Jews..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Didn't watch the video did you?
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Is this thread still for updates?
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The curse of this whole situation is that no solution will or may come out of it. Only the victims on both sides will be achieved, but no positive goal at all.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258462


The bulldozers say it all.

Israel is trying to obliterate all traces of Palestine as a people and culture. They don't even consider them human.

Same thing the nazis tried on the jews.

Ain't the world just so fucking cute and ironic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27895404


Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


the land 'granted' to them doesn't mean ALL of Palastine.

Jizzrael has stolen almost all of it now by force, almost wiping out all Palastinians in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Be a Man, watch this video and then comment, rather than just voicing your feelings. If necessary, we can do crayon drawings for you.

If you post again in the next 10 minutes, we know you are just shilling and won't accept what is well known by the rest of the world....

So, you going to watch it?, or shill?
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Excellent video but I'm afraid their hate filled minds are already made up. No amount of truth will ever persuade these anti-semites.
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Jpost:

Israel negotiating IMMINENT ceasefire.

Israel will get it's last pot-shots in immediately after the ceasefire is announced, and then by daybreak they will go home...

And as for the 75,0000 reservists...they'll just say thanks, but nevermind.
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The bulldozers say it all.

Israel is trying to obliterate all traces of Palestine as a people and culture. They don't even consider them human.

Same thing the nazis tried on the jews.

Ain't the world just so fucking cute and ironic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27895404


Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Because we all know the UN is always right and just, huh?

If the UN kicked you off of your property and forced you into a ghetto with over a million of your countrymen, would that make it right?

Sit tight, you might get your chance to see what it's like. They didn't build all those FEMA camps so you'd have a place to build team skills. It's not just 3rd world countries that can get screwed by the long arm of the UN.

And again, I don't care. Even Hitler found other large political powers willing to back him up and say genocide is acceptable. I daresay this would look even more like nazi Germany if the whole world couldn't watch so closely this time.

One of the richest and most powerful countries in the world doesn't get to bully around one of the poorest and still hold the moral high ground.
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bump
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Jpost:

Israel negotiating IMMINENT ceasefire.

Israel will get it's last pot-shots in immediately after the ceasefire is announced, and then by daybreak they will go home...

And as for the 75,0000 reservists...they'll just say thanks, but nevermind.
 Quoting: ISO


I don't believe that.
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Is this thread still for updates?
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yes
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Trinity get 'em who is derailing teh thread.explosionexplosionexplosiongodzillagodzillagodzillalflashlflashdarkbushpunchbushpunchangryangryangrybyekittybyekittystarwarsmacgundead3thwakrocketnuke
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[link to www.ustream.tv] explosion!
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btw as far as harry goes..

that's an egyptian military officer that was behind him

look here

[link to matnwahawamesh.files.wordpress.com]

link to full page, third pic down:
[link to matnwahawamesh.wordpress.com (secure)]

you can see it under the jacket

it's an egyptian military officer under shirt

note the tie and the collar
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Either Harry is in Egypt, or Egyptians are in Gaza
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


I was watching live when this happend.

Just because some guy posted a clip of it and said it was an Egyptian military officer does not mean it was..We need more info to confirm..
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Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


the land 'granted' to them doesn't mean ALL of Palastine.

Jizzrael has stolen almost all of it now by force, almost wiping out all Palastinians in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Wow, talk about blowing it WAY out of proportion. You do know that there really isn't a PEOPLE called Palestinians right? Where do you think the people that created the now states of Syria and Iraq and Saudi Arabia came from?

You also do know that Israel, bigger than it is now existed over 2000 years ago right?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


oh really..then who are these people being bombed into submission right now?...they sure as hell aint Jews..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Children of Ishmael? Egyptians? Saudis? Whatever name they have or are given it's beside the point, which is that Israel is defending IT'S people against attacks from outside Israel.
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This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

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Kaboom!!! 2 booms there
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This stream up with sound...

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Jpost:

Israel negotiating IMMINENT ceasefire.

Israel will get it's last pot-shots in immediately after the ceasefire is announced, and then by daybreak they will go home...

And as for the 75,0000 reservists...they'll just say thanks, but nevermind.
 Quoting: ISO


I don't believe that.
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I don't think that's gonna happen either.
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explosions being heard [link to www.ustream.tv]
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This stream up with sound...

[link to www.ustream.tv]
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hf
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This conflict is loosing steam!! Because the simple truth is!! There is no freaking solution. Either Israel goes in 100% or else the terrorist will win.
By the looks of if . Terrorist wins

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All signs point to ceasefire, things have been quiet, both sides negotiating. Things have de-escalated, another false alarm for doom.
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I guess your not watching the live feed...
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Are those drones Im hearing?
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Who's Harry? My cat's name is harry.
 Quoting: pool

Harry is a Hamas operative masquerading as a journalist.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: my 2 cents


No how about this theory?


Harry is an Oxbridge Graduate, working for MI5 seconded to mossad?
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btw as far as harry goes..

that's an egyptian military officer that was behind him

look here

[link to matnwahawamesh.files.wordpress.com]

link to full page, third pic down:
[link to matnwahawamesh.wordpress.com (secure)]

you can see it under the jacket

it's an egyptian military officer under shirt

note the tie and the collar
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Either Harry is in Egypt, or Egyptians are in Gaza
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


I was watching live when this happend.

Just because some guy posted a clip of it and said it was an Egyptian military officer does not mean it was..We need more info to confirm..
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


compare for yourself man

the links are right there

it's fucking clear as day

Egyptian officer undershirt / tie

no doubt
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


That could be true..if it is, then it could mean that there's some heavy deep rooted shit going on. Also, if is true, then that guy who walked in front of the cam is probably out back getting his feet beat as we speak..
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All signs point to ceasefire, things have been quiet, both sides negotiating. Things have de-escalated, another false alarm for doom.
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[Citation needed]
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Maybe you need to study how the UN since 1967 has backed the Israeli position and the land granted to them.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


the land 'granted' to them doesn't mean ALL of Palastine.

Jizzrael has stolen almost all of it now by force, almost wiping out all Palastinians in the process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27959410


Wow, talk about blowing it WAY out of proportion. You do know that there really isn't a PEOPLE called Palestinians right? Where do you think the people that created the now states of Syria and Iraq and Saudi Arabia came from?

You also do know that Israel, bigger than it is now existed over 2000 years ago right?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


2000 years ago it was also routine to slaughter the citizens of your enemy and rape their women.

I like to think we've advanced somewhat since then.

The Palestinians, for lack of a better term, are still people who have been (or were) settled there for several centuries. The Israelis refuse to even acknowledge this fact, despite the centuries-old Arab architecture all over the damn place.

You don't just show up, kick out the natives, and force them into a ghetto. You don't run them out and bulldoze their homes and pretend they never existed. You don't continuously sieze ever more land. You don't blockade a poor country with little resources and keep a ban list of everything they need to better themselves.

That is, unless you're Israel. It's practically Space Men vs The Flintstones. Don't even pretend that just because this shit happened, it is in any way justified.
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I guess you just don't understand... Freedom fighters to some, terrorists to others. Each side of a war speaks badly of the other. If I were to kill an invader to my home threatening my family some would call me a hero and yet others would call me a killer.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Some ceasefire.
Didnt think so...
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i wonder if hamas will fire rockets containing white phosphorus...so to give back the change for what they received in the last war.

since those "white phosphorus" based weapons are banned and forbidden as ways of war, it is considered by the UN as terrorists those who use them...

israel did use them and even got no slap on the hand.

lets see hamas using them to see media and UN reaction.
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