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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Lots of sirens on RT...

Fire still seems to be burning in the background as well...

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Allrigght im back what did i miss?
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


israel blew up a bunch of reporters

finally proves how ludicrous the idea of 'targeted' strikes are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


I guess firing missiles indiscriminately over civilians, Hamas style, is a better idea ?
 Quoting: 8200


I heard Israelis want a ground invasion, what's your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19552856


The ultimative idea would be that hamas will be hitted so bad that they will beg for a ceasefire and there wont be another round in a few months.
this can be achieved with a ground invasion but unfortunately we depend very much on the support we got from the world and at the moment there is no support for a ground manouver.
I'm beginning to feel that hamas is coming to a point where they will ask for a ceasefire.Israel will not negotiate with hamas and any agreement reached will be between Israel and egypt.Having Egypt commited to such an agreement will (I hope) guarantee there will be no next round.
Also Israel will do any effort not to let hamas go outfrom this with some kind of achievement.
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Well it's kind of a tiny territory. Even smaller that teeny weeny Israel. Lots of military targets in Israel¡s densely pop cities too. Maybe if you both handed each other mutually agreed pre approved lists?
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Uh huh, okay. btw alien, it's welcome to MY Earth, your welcome. Our grammar is tough, I know..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You never told me what planet you're from?
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You win. What else do you want to know?
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Samson option
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Samson ??? Is it what i think it is? ICBM?
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Samson option
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6446809


Samson ??? Is it what i think it is? ICBM?
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


Some have written about the "Samson Option" as a retaliation strategy. In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter which has been seen as justifying a Samson Option approach.[20] He wrote:

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"[21]

In 2003, Martin van Creveld thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[22] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[23]
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Hello.

I'm Devoted Follower.

Welcome to Earth.

hugs
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Uh huh, okay. btw alien, it's welcome to MY Earth, your welcome. Our grammar is tough, I know..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You never told me what planet you're from?
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 27988063


You win. What else do you want to know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


An answer to y question...that is all.

What planet are you from?

Oh...and one other.

Are you of the humanoid race?

abduct
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Doesn't the Bible say they will never quit fighting for that land?
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Samson option
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Samson ??? Is it what i think it is? ICBM?
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Yes.

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Allrigght im back what did i miss?
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


israel blew up a bunch of reporters

finally proves how ludicrous the idea of 'targeted' strikes are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


I guess firing missiles indiscriminately over civilians, Hamas style, is a better idea ?
 Quoting: 8200


[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


Thanks.

I have a daughter about the same age.
same reaction...
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The Sampson option... a democratic secular state..

That would blow everybody away---
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The “We Go Down, Everything Goes” hate rhetoric against humanity in its entirety, is accepted as a concept by Tel Aviv policy makers.

That includes the USA
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Samson option
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6446809


Samson ??? Is it what i think it is? ICBM?
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


Some have written about the "Samson Option" as a retaliation strategy. In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter which has been seen as justifying a Samson Option approach.[20] He wrote:

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"[21]

In 2003, Martin van Creveld thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[22] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[23]
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hiding
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Whats on RT feed?
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israel blew up a bunch of reporters

finally proves how ludicrous the idea of 'targeted' strikes are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


I guess firing missiles indiscriminately over civilians, Hamas style, is a better idea ?
 Quoting: 8200


I heard Israelis want a ground invasion, what's your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19552856


The ultimative idea would be that hamas will be hitted so bad that they will beg for a ceasefire and there wont be another round in a few months.
this can be achieved with a ground invasion but unfortunately we depend very much on the support we got from the world and at the moment there is no support for a ground manouver.
I'm beginning to feel that hamas is coming to a point where they will ask for a ceasefire.Israel will not negotiate with hamas and any agreement reached will be between Israel and egypt.Having Egypt commited to such an agreement will (I hope) guarantee there will be no next round.
Also Israel will do any effort not to let hamas go outfrom this with some kind of achievement.
 Quoting: 8200


time for a regime change in israel.

you know nothing of what you speak of - you should include the phrase " in your opinion " when speaking.
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what's on RT now?
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Uh huh, okay. btw alien, it's welcome to MY Earth, your welcome. Our grammar is tough, I know..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


You never told me what planet you're from?
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 27988063


You win. What else do you want to know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


An answer to y question...that is all.

What planet are you from?

Oh...and one other.

Are you of the humanoid race?

abduct
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Ahem. I think I have a Devoted Follower...
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what's on RT now?
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Its RT America but why?
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israel blew up a bunch of reporters

finally proves how ludicrous the idea of 'targeted' strikes are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


I guess firing missiles indiscriminately over civilians, Hamas style, is a better idea ?
 Quoting: 8200


[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


Thanks.

I have a daughter about the same age.
same reaction...
 Quoting: 8200


[link to www.imemc.org]
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It's not that I support this, but let me ask you simple question:

What or who is preventing Israel to simply nuke Gaza and finish this agony once and for all times?

Everyone would officially condemn that, so what? On the other side there would be hidden sympathies worldwide as I anticipate.

Someone answer please.
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what's on RT now?
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Probably Cambodia
ASEAN opening ceremony

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what's on RT now?
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Oh this must be the part where they announce the coming of the antichrist as the new world leader?
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what's on RT now?
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Its RT America but why?
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Coverage of Obama visit to Indonesia or somethin

it's actually AP agency feed, which RT paid for.
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It's not that I support this, but let me ask you simple question:

What or who is preventing Israel to simply nuke Gaza and finish this agony once and for all times?

Everyone would officially condemn that, so what? On the other side there would be hidden sympathies worldwide as I anticipate.

Someone answer please.
 Quoting: Démodé


The second use of a nuke on a population? I dont think there is an other side to that equation...
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what's on RT now?
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Probably Cambodia
ASEAN opening ceremony
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Pic opt
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It's not that I support this, but let me ask you simple question:

What or who is preventing Israel to simply nuke Gaza and finish this agony once and for all times?

Everyone would officially condemn that, so what? On the other side there would be hidden sympathies worldwide as I anticipate.

Someone answer please.
 Quoting: Démodé


You mean massacre hundreds of thousands innocent people living there? Yeah, right...
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what's on RT now?
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Oh this must be the part where they announce the coming of the antichrist as the new world leader?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


ahhh

dark
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Red alert Negev, Shaar Hanegev
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what's on RT now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1496396


Its RT America but why?
 Quoting: TheCuriousObserver


Coverage of Obama visit to Indonesia or somethin

it's actually AP agency feed, which RT paid for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19552856


So we see Obamas not in Mid East but in Asia hmmmm
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It's not that I support this, but let me ask you simple question:

What or who is preventing Israel to simply nuke Gaza and finish this agony once and for all times?

Everyone would officially condemn that, so what? On the other side there would be hidden sympathies worldwide as I anticipate.

Someone answer please.
 Quoting: Démodé


There are civilians there, that's why.
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I guess firing missiles indiscriminately over civilians, Hamas style, is a better idea ?
 Quoting: 8200


I heard Israelis want a ground invasion, what's your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19552856


The ultimative idea would be that hamas will be hitted so bad that they will beg for a ceasefire and there wont be another round in a few months.
this can be achieved with a ground invasion but unfortunately we depend very much on the support we got from the world and at the moment there is no support for a ground manouver.
I'm beginning to feel that hamas is coming to a point where they will ask for a ceasefire.Israel will not negotiate with hamas and any agreement reached will be between Israel and egypt.Having Egypt commited to such an agreement will (I hope) guarantee there will be no next round.
Also Israel will do any effort not to let hamas go outfrom this with some kind of achievement.
 Quoting: 8200


time for a regime change in israel.

you know nothing of what you speak of - you should include the phrase " in your opinion " when speaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7735798


stating "you know nothing of what you speak of" implies that you know better than me what I'm talking about.
Are you really sure about that?
lets clarify few things:
1. When asked about opinions in Israel I know much better than you - as you may know much better than me whats going on in Canada.
2. It is not my opinion.Those are analysis done by analyst that reflect very well the public opinion





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