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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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I don't know if it's my internet connection or what, but Harry is hit and miss at best.

I wish Obama would hurry up!
 Quoting: Éireann


yeah me too!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula

Same here.
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In regards to the lack of shelling, didn't some Israeli official mention that special forces were already in Gaza looking for the missile stocks?

Of course that would be the real reason to stop shelling, waiting for them to finish, like in 36 hours wink wink.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25512421


the article title was a bit misleading...

They arent already there

(as far as we know?)

but the article its self said when the ground invasion occurs... 20,000 special forces will look for long range rockets.
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I don't know if it's my internet connection or what, but Harry is hit and miss at best.

I wish Obama would hurry up!
 Quoting: Éireann


yeah me too!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


What's Obama supposed to do?

Have Hamas and the Israel sit down and sort everything out over a few beers?
 Quoting: Sesquipedalian

No, Obama's giving a speech and all of the news stations are covering it. It's the first time a US President has been to Burma... er I mean Myanmar.
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The ultimatum could just be a PR move, I have a gut feeling that that decision to go in has been made before the first bomb ever dropped.

 Quoting: ViperSmart 28026441


Going in is silly without an objective.
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I think their objective is to re-occupy.

Probably they will take total control and go house to house if they have to.

They will encounter resistance at first, but eventually whatever Hamas has managed to smuggle in the way of anti-tank rockets and such will be used up and there will be nothing left to them.

Israel will destroy the smuggling tunnels, and set troops up on the Egyptian border and then slowly find everything, every gun, every rocket, everything...

I'm not cheer leading here either, just what I think makes sense, if I was Israel this is what i would do.

From their perspective they must crush Hamas and get rid of every last rocket, and this will require reoccupation.
 Quoting: ViperSmart 28026441


You are spot on!! Don't like much of west agenda, who often benefits economic interests, but what you are describing is the only solution

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


Unimaginative. There are other solutions. Besides the one proposed aint going to happen...
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In regards to the lack of shelling, didn't some Israeli official mention that special forces were already in Gaza looking for the missile stocks?

Of course that would be the real reason to stop shelling, waiting for them to finish, like in 36 hours wink wink.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25512421


here is the article

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]

Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 11/19/2012 03:21 AM
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Well, I was banned for 2 days and just now came back. I will refrain from hate speech and posting irrelevant topics...
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


It often ends with posting nothing!!!
What is this with this ban system !
I don't get it. I thought we actually had free speech???
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 Quoting: Limpan


The idea was that we could come here and talk about recent developments without trying to rehash and fight about the origins of turmoil in the Middle East. We are NOT going to resolve that on this thread if it hasn't been resolved for thousands of years.

I've gotten upset on here myself, but some people keep baiting and taunting and even pissing off the Mods. Free speech doesn't include totally immature baiting and harassment. You will not find ANY website that allows people to post the crap they do on GLP. So I wouldn't complain about it - any of you.

You are ruining it for everyone else - Germany and Australia and whoever else is agitating and foul mouthed. How about majority rule? People like that right? Well how about we vote some of you off the island. Not directed toward you Limpan, but anyone who's knowingly trying to derail and agitate.
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what time will 36-Hour Ultimatum be over?
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I don't know if it's my internet connection or what, but Harry is hit and miss at best.

I wish Obama would hurry up!
 Quoting: Éireann


yeah me too!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula

Same here.
 Quoting: StaceyRay


Obama would hurry up and what? What did I miss?
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I don't know if it's my internet connection or what, but Harry is hit and miss at best.

I wish Obama would hurry up!
 Quoting: Éireann


yeah me too!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


What's Obama supposed to do?

Have Hamas and the Israel sit down and sort everything out over a few beers?
 Quoting: Sesquipedalian

No, Obama's giving a speech and all of the news stations are covering it. It's the first time a US President has been to Burma... er I mean Myanmar.
 Quoting: Éireann


Ah, just turned on the feed.

That place really has a F'ed up history...
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Notice how many just out of the blue mentioned nuke?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25512421


It's mentioned all the time, rationalized to psychologically sooth the weak witted. Consistently said as a means to an end by certain nationalities. If you want to make correlations, try to make a guess which nations say it the most?
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Well I meant within a specific short time frame.
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
I don't know if it's my internet connection or what, but Harry is hit and miss at best.

I wish Obama would hurry up!
 Quoting: Éireann


yeah me too!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula

Same here.
 Quoting: StaceyRay


Obama would hurry up and what? What did I miss?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23427044


he's giving a speech

and the live feeds are all on it...

wish obama would shut up so the feeds switch back to whats really important...
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Well, I was banned for 2 days and just now came back. I will refrain from hate speech and posting irrelevant topics...
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


It often ends with posting nothing!!!
What is this with this ban system !
I don't get it. I thought we actually had free speech???
bump
 Quoting: Limpan


The idea was that we could come here and talk about recent developments without trying to rehash and fight about the origins of turmoil in the Middle East. We are NOT going to resolve that on this thread if it hasn't been resolved for thousands of years.

I've gotten upset on here myself, but some people keep baiting and taunting and even pissing off the Mods. Free speech doesn't include totally immature baiting and harassment. You will not find ANY website that allows people to post the crap they do on GLP. So I wouldn't complain about it - any of you.

You are ruining it for everyone else - Germany and Australia and whoever else is agitating and foul mouthed. How about majority rule? People like that right? Well how about we vote some of you off the island. Not directed toward you Limpan, but anyone who's knowingly trying to derail and agitate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23427044


Dont cast the net too wide. That's the problem with "majority rule". Soon no one is left to turn out the lights.
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yeah me too!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula

Same here.
 Quoting: StaceyRay


Obama would hurry up and what? What did I miss?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23427044


he's giving a speech

and the live feeds are all on it...

wish obama would shut up so the feeds switch back to whats really important...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula

Yes.
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Maybe we could watch kittens while he speaks? Sounds good to me.
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Maybe we could watch kittens while he speaks? Sounds good to me.
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bye bye.
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Going in is silly without an objective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624



I think their objective is to re-occupy.

Probably they will take total control and go house to house if they have to.

They will encounter resistance at first, but eventually whatever Hamas has managed to smuggle in the way of anti-tank rockets and such will be used up and there will be nothing left to them.

Israel will destroy the smuggling tunnels, and set troops up on the Egyptian border and then slowly find everything, every gun, every rocket, everything...

I'm not cheer leading here either, just what I think makes sense, if I was Israel this is what i would do.

From their perspective they must crush Hamas and get rid of every last rocket, and this will require reoccupation.
 Quoting: ViperSmart 28026441


You are spot on!! Don't like much of west agenda, who often benefits economic interests, but what you are describing is the only solution

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


Unimaginative. There are other solutions. Besides the one proposed aint going to happen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Why not?? How do you solve it then. Hamas still in power keeping up the rocket bombardment of Israel? And how the heck will they ever be able to create there on country, when Gaza is what it is?
Make a deal with Egypt and make Gaza a part of Egypt. Then let the Palestinians gave there own UN accepted land and country in the West Bank.....
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Notice how many just out of the blue mentioned nuke?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25512421


It's mentioned all the time, rationalized to psychologically sooth the weak witted. Consistently said as a means to an end by certain nationalities. If you want to make correlations, try to make a guess which nations say it the most?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Well I meant within a specific short time frame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25512421

Yeah like... 2 nanoseconds.

That was weird how they just posted back to back. Both posts were using the term "nuked" for a different reason, but still just struck me as odd that they posted about nuke so close together.
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Maybe we could watch kittens while he speaks? Sounds good to me.
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I don't have the url :/
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Maybe we could watch kittens while he speaks? Sounds good to me.
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I don't have the url :/
 Quoting: Éireann

Me either. Sorry.
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And I'd like to add - this is some of the worst trash I've ever read. I don't see why the rest of us who come here have to have this stuff thrown in our faces.
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Get used to it.

I got 48 hours.
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I don't want to stomp on your free speech, but part of my free speech is being able to read the information related to the topic on this thread so that I can post my thoughts accordingly. You're kind of interrupting the whole flow of the topic of this thread.

Can't you find another thread to troll Phen on if that's why you're here?
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^^it's all about me me me me me

cry
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Baby.
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Well, I was banned for 2 days and just now came back. I will refrain from hate speech and posting irrelevant topics...
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


It often ends with posting nothing!!!
What is this with this ban system !
I don't get it. I thought we actually had free speech???
bump
 Quoting: Limpan


The idea was that we could come here and talk about recent developments without trying to rehash and fight about the origins of turmoil in the Middle East. We are NOT going to resolve that on this thread if it hasn't been resolved for thousands of years.

I've gotten upset on here myself, but some people keep baiting and taunting and even pissing off the Mods. Free speech doesn't include totally immature baiting and harassment. You will not find ANY website that allows people to post the crap they do on GLP. So I wouldn't complain about it - any of you.

You are ruining it for everyone else - Germany and Australia and whoever else is agitating and foul mouthed. How about majority rule? People like that right? Well how about we vote some of you off the island. Not directed toward you Limpan, but anyone who's knowingly trying to derail and agitate.
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I see you're point
hf
But I have been banned for 10 times, and believe me, I have never used hard language or been mean to anyone. So I think the auto ban hits innocent people sometimes!!!
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I think their objective is to re-occupy.

Probably they will take total control and go house to house if they have to.

They will encounter resistance at first, but eventually whatever Hamas has managed to smuggle in the way of anti-tank rockets and such will be used up and there will be nothing left to them.

Israel will destroy the smuggling tunnels, and set troops up on the Egyptian border and then slowly find everything, every gun, every rocket, everything...

I'm not cheer leading here either, just what I think makes sense, if I was Israel this is what i would do.

From their perspective they must crush Hamas and get rid of every last rocket, and this will require reoccupation.
 Quoting: ViperSmart 28026441


You are spot on!! Don't like much of west agenda, who often benefits economic interests, but what you are describing is the only solution

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


Unimaginative. There are other solutions. Besides the one proposed aint going to happen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Why not?? How do you solve it then. Hamas still in power keeping up the rocket bombardment of Israel? And how the heck will they ever be able to create there on country, when Gaza is what it is?
Make a deal with Egypt and make Gaza a part of Egypt. Then let the Palestinians gave there own UN accepted land and country in the West Bank.....
 Quoting: Limpan


Well they might want to join Sinai. No, Likud forces arent going house to house looking for weapons. It's not feasible or logical. Hamas didnt start the attacks against Israel. How many times must I say it? Likud knows that, but they went ahead and attacked Hamas leadership who are the only ones they have had a ceasefire with and the only ones that can stop rogue missiles being fired. Of course, now Likud is facing Hamas retaliation. They wanted it to escalate, because their hopeless objective is to enforce a blockade that leaks like a sieve.
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You are spot on!! Don't like much of west agenda, who often benefits economic interests, but what you are describing is the only solution

hf
 Quoting: Limpan


Unimaginative. There are other solutions. Besides the one proposed aint going to happen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Why not?? How do you solve it then. Hamas still in power keeping up the rocket bombardment of Israel? And how the heck will they ever be able to create there on country, when Gaza is what it is?
Make a deal with Egypt and make Gaza a part of Egypt. Then let the Palestinians gave there own UN accepted land and country in the West Bank.....
 Quoting: Limpan


Well they might want to join Sinai. No, Likud forces arent going house to house looking for weapons. It's not feasible or logical. Hamas didnt start the attacks against Israel. How many times must I say it? Likud knows that, but they went ahead and attacked Hamas leadership who are the only ones they have had a ceasefire with and the only ones that can stop rogue missiles being fired. Of course, now Likud is facing Hamas retaliation. They wanted it to escalate, because their hopeless objective is to enforce a blockade that leaks like a sieve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


I respect your views, but what do you mean with this?

They wanted it to escalate, because their hopeless objective is to enforce a blockade that leaks like a sieve.

What I'm trying to find is a solution for all parties in this conflict. And Gaza is a huge problem, even for the Palestinians.
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Some real aftermath footage someone took in Shifa Hospital after one of Israels attacks hit the wrong building yesterday

It's a bit graphic so... yeah.

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Well, I was banned for 2 days and just now came back. I will refrain from hate speech and posting irrelevant topics...
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


It often ends with posting nothing!!!
What is this with this ban system !
I don't get it. I thought we actually had free speech???
bump
 Quoting: Limpan


The idea was that we could come here and talk about recent developments without trying to rehash and fight about the origins of turmoil in the Middle East. We are NOT going to resolve that on this thread if it hasn't been resolved for thousands of years.

I've gotten upset on here myself, but some people keep baiting and taunting and even pissing off the Mods. Free speech doesn't include totally immature baiting and harassment. You will not find ANY website that allows people to post the crap they do on GLP. So I wouldn't complain about it - any of you.

You are ruining it for everyone else - Germany and Australia and whoever else is agitating and foul mouthed. How about majority rule? People like that right? Well how about we vote some of you off the island. Not directed toward you Limpan, but anyone who's knowingly trying to derail and agitate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23427044


Dont cast the net too wide. That's the problem with "majority rule". Soon no one is left to turn out the lights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


I really don't think "casting a net too wide" is the problem now. Spare me the free speech lecture. My ancestors fought and died for it and it makes me sick how it's being ABUSED. The degradation of American society is 1/2 of what has destroyed this country - all done while people whined "free speech, free speech."

...and back to Obama in Burma...*yawn* Who cares? And why is he there? Must be up to no good. I'm sure we'll find out eventually. He doesn't galavant for no reason.
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Harry is back!
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Well, I was banned for 2 days and just now came back. I will refrain from hate speech and posting irrelevant topics...
 Quoting: ~Proud Zionist~


It often ends with posting nothing!!!
What is this with this ban system !
I don't get it. I thought we actually had free speech???
bump
 Quoting: Limpan


The idea was that we could come here and talk about recent developments without trying to rehash and fight about the origins of turmoil in the Middle East. We are NOT going to resolve that on this thread if it hasn't been resolved for thousands of years.

I've gotten upset on here myself, but some people keep baiting and taunting and even pissing off the Mods. Free speech doesn't include totally immature baiting and harassment. You will not find ANY website that allows people to post the crap they do on GLP. So I wouldn't complain about it - any of you.

You are ruining it for everyone else - Germany and Australia and whoever else is agitating and foul mouthed. How about majority rule? People like that right? Well how about we vote some of you off the island. Not directed toward you Limpan, but anyone who's knowingly trying to derail and agitate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23427044


I see you're point
hf
But I have been banned for 10 times, and believe me, I have never used hard language or been mean to anyone. So I think the auto ban hits innocent people sometimes!!!
 Quoting: Limpan


agreed. but hey, it's GLP, and we're lucky to have it. Most people get unbanned eventually.
hf
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Harry is back!
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Thank you!
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what time will 36-Hour Ultimatum be over?
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Tues 1:30pm est





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