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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
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If Israel would just offer money to bring the [Iran-backed] hamas to justice, like we did with binLaden intel, we'd see what the Palestine people really wanted.
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drones are getting closer to reuters live cam again....
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So when they fire rockets at Israel, hoping they hit civilians....that's helping their cause, how? They're resisting civilians?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


What else do they have?

Please tell me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


So target civilians..that's the answer. And that's supposed to help them how?

I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


It's all they have, you would do whatever it took too if your country were being occupied by an enemy and you didn't have freedom of movement. You would fight back, no? Or would you just lay down?

The Zionists have made clear, numerous times, what they think about other races. There is something that you don't seem to be realizing, the people of Palestine LOVE their Hamas fighters and they love protecting them too. You act like their rounding people up and putting them in front of the fighters, and that's ridiculous. It's the exact same thing as YOU protecting YOUR loved ones if you were in a fight against occupation and totalitarianism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Umm..I'm not acting like that...Hamas themselves have demonstrated that very tactic.

When Hamas randomly lobs rockets at innocent Israeli civilians, they are not "protecting the Palestinians" from anything. In fact, what they're doing is putting more of their own people in danger.

Again, if no more rockets were fired at Israel, there would be no more retaliation from Israel.
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What fault is of those innocent little children beng killed? There is never a good enough reason to kill children, it is just plain wrong, watching their little bodies lined up side by side no fault of their own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26801961


why doesn't Bibbi send the troops in instead?

at least there is less of a chance kids get killed.

Bombing them is the easy way out me thinks
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They can control where the bombs land, 30,000+ plus Troops going in theres no controlling what each one of them do. Might shoot everything that moves.
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I keep hearing the word terrorist. Here is the definition...

ter·ror·ism/ˈterəˌrizəm/
Noun:
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Hamas is not fighting for political value or to intimidate people, they want the occupiers OUT...PERIOD...and so would YOU.

You're gonna have to come up with another word cause terrorist ain't the right one and doesn't even come close to the description of terrorism.

Jihadis in a holy war are terrorists...Hamas are resistance fighters, fighting for freedom of Israeli OCCUPATION. I will say it again, you and your families would do the EXACT same thing.

You Americans could learn a thing or two from them if you would only take your nose out of the Jews ass for a minute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


So when they fire rockets at Israel, hoping they hit civilians....that's helping their cause, how? They're resisting civilians?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


What else do they have?

Please tell me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Ummm, they can STFU, work hard, pray hard, live in peace, and co-exist. Kinda like many other countries in the world.
 Quoting: MARsSPEED


You can't peacefully coexist when you're being forcefully occupied.

You sound ridiculous.
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So target civilians..that's the answer. And that's supposed to help them how?

I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Israel is way ahead in the death count.

Palis 108

Israel 3.

Get your facts straight

you = lala
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


Thanks to Hamas
 Quoting: Monk Meat


I'm sorry but there is something very wrong with you.

You need to start asking the hard questions, girl.

YOU AIN'T ON THE WINNING TEAM HERE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


1rof1
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What else do they have?

Please tell me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


So target civilians..that's the answer. And that's supposed to help them how?

I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


It's all they have, you would do whatever it took too if your country were being occupied by an enemy and you didn't have freedom of movement. You would fight back, no? Or would you just lay down?

The Zionists have made clear, numerous times, what they think about other races. There is something that you don't seem to be realizing, the people of Palestine LOVE their Hamas fighters and they love protecting them too. You act like their rounding people up and putting them in front of the fighters, and that's ridiculous. It's the exact same thing as YOU protecting YOUR loved ones if you were in a fight against occupation and totalitarianism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Umm..I'm not acting like that...Hamas themselves have demonstrated that very tactic.

When Hamas randomly lobs rockets at innocent Israeli civilians, they are not "protecting the Palestinians" from anything. In fact, what they're doing is putting more of their own people in danger.

Again, if no more rockets were fired at Israel, there would be no more retaliation from Israel.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


what the hell did you expect them to do?..roll over like dogs for the IDF..you are a moron.


resist Palastine.
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So when they fire rockets at Israel, hoping they hit civilians....that's helping their cause, how? They're resisting civilians?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


What else do they have?

Please tell me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Ummm, they can STFU, work hard, pray hard, live in peace, and co-exist. Kinda like many other countries in the world.
 Quoting: MARsSPEED


You can't peacefully coexist when you're being forcefully occupied.

You sound ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


bump
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Thanks to Hamas
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are you retarded or something?

dayum......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


That's all ya got, huh Bruce?

You lose hi
 Quoting: Monk Meat


honey you lose way back up their when you showed yourself up as an idiot. ROFL

hi


say g'day to your mum for me.
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Another meaningless comment. You lose, reconfirmed catdance
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Israel is way ahead in the death count.

Palis 108

Israel 3.

Get your facts straight

you = lala
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


Thanks to Hamas
 Quoting: Monk Meat


I'm sorry but there is something very wrong with you.

You need to start asking the hard questions, girl.

YOU AIN'T ON THE WINNING TEAM HERE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


1rof1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


you realise you just insulted your fellow STARTARD, don't you?


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So target civilians..that's the answer. And that's supposed to help them how?

I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


It's all they have, you would do whatever it took too if your country were being occupied by an enemy and you didn't have freedom of movement. You would fight back, no? Or would you just lay down?

The Zionists have made clear, numerous times, what they think about other races. There is something that you don't seem to be realizing, the people of Palestine LOVE their Hamas fighters and they love protecting them too. You act like their rounding people up and putting them in front of the fighters, and that's ridiculous. It's the exact same thing as YOU protecting YOUR loved ones if you were in a fight against occupation and totalitarianism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Umm..I'm not acting like that...Hamas themselves have demonstrated that very tactic.

When Hamas randomly lobs rockets at innocent Israeli civilians, they are not "protecting the Palestinians" from anything. In fact, what they're doing is putting more of their own people in danger.

Again, if no more rockets were fired at Israel, there would be no more retaliation from Israel.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


what the hell did you expect them to do?..roll over like dogs for the IDF..you are a moron.


resist Palastine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


bump
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Wife got excited when I said the cocks woke up
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Good God Man !!! Why Are You Still Here.... Make Her Glow !!!
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I can multi task dude :)
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Why you still here? Hello!
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Roosters, wake up!
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Oh damn!!!

Dracu-Rooster!


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I want Roosterbomber!
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Roosters, wake up!
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Oh damn!!!

Dracu-Rooster!


[link to postimage.org]
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I want Roosterbomber!
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ohyeah
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are you retarded or something?

dayum......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


That's all ya got, huh Bruce?

You lose hi
 Quoting: Monk Meat


honey you lose way back up their when you showed yourself up as an idiot. ROFL

hi


say g'day to your mum for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


Another meaningless comment. You lose, reconfirmed catdance
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I won a long time ago by handing you your ass...
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If Israel would just offer money to bring the [Iran-backed] hamas to justice, like we did with binLaden intel, we'd see what the Palestine people really wanted.
 Quoting: pool


Good idea, the only problem is Israel's currency is not used as a reserve currency around the world !

Israel can't print money without inflation going through the roof so it doesn't have an endless supply of cash as the US does !

Israel needs its own version of Bernanke in order to do that ! tounge
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one question; what are the most sophisticated SAM'S at the moment? and what's their succes rate against f-15's and f-16's? thanks.
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dont know about f-16... but the f-15 has never been shot down incombat ever!
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this is off topic . but ummm, yeah they have
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I'm fairly sure no US F-15 have never been (officially...) downed by enemy action. 1 or 2 have crashed though.

one question; what are the most sophisticated SAM'S at the moment? and what's their succes rate against f-15's and f-16's? thanks.
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dont know about f-16... but the f-15 has never been shot down incombat ever!
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one of our B-1 bombers got shot down in Bosnia with a RPG.
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It was an F-117 and a Russian unguided SAM, but close enough lol.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

thanks for disabusing me of my ignorance. i always thought
the f-117 was the B-1. (i just looked at a photo of
the b-1 and i would never care about that ugly thing!)
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Oh damn!!!

Dracu-Rooster!


[link to postimage.org]
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Where'd you find that? LOL!
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lol I just made it
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Thanks to Hamas
 Quoting: Monk Meat


I'm sorry but there is something very wrong with you.

You need to start asking the hard questions, girl.

YOU AIN'T ON THE WINNING TEAM HERE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


1rof1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


you realise you just insulted your fellow STARTARD, don't you?


cruisecruise
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Whats a STARTARD?...and he is a DUDE
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It's all they have, you would do whatever it took too if your country were being occupied by an enemy and you didn't have freedom of movement. You would fight back, no? Or would you just lay down?

The Zionists have made clear, numerous times, what they think about other races. There is something that you don't seem to be realizing, the people of Palestine LOVE their Hamas fighters and they love protecting them too. You act like their rounding people up and putting them in front of the fighters, and that's ridiculous. It's the exact same thing as YOU protecting YOUR loved ones if you were in a fight against occupation and totalitarianism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Umm..I'm not acting like that...Hamas themselves have demonstrated that very tactic.

When Hamas randomly lobs rockets at innocent Israeli civilians, they are not "protecting the Palestinians" from anything. In fact, what they're doing is putting more of their own people in danger.

Again, if no more rockets were fired at Israel, there would be no more retaliation from Israel.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


what the hell did you expect them to do?..roll over like dogs for the IDF..you are a moron.


resist Palastine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


bump
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bump
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What else do they have?

Please tell me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


So target civilians..that's the answer. And that's supposed to help them how?

I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


It's all they have, you would do whatever it took too if your country were being occupied by an enemy and you didn't have freedom of movement. You would fight back, no? Or would you just lay down?

The Zionists have made clear, numerous times, what they think about other races. There is something that you don't seem to be realizing, the people of Palestine LOVE their Hamas fighters and they love protecting them too. You act like their rounding people up and putting them in front of the fighters, and that's ridiculous. It's the exact same thing as YOU protecting YOUR loved ones if you were in a fight against occupation and totalitarianism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


Umm..I'm not acting like that...Hamas themselves have demonstrated that very tactic.

When Hamas randomly lobs rockets at innocent Israeli civilians, they are not "protecting the Palestinians" from anything. In fact, what they're doing is putting more of their own people in danger.

Again, if no more rockets were fired at Israel, there would be no more retaliation from Israel.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Then you are seriously misinformed as I originally thought.

You have ZERO knowledge of this conflict except for what the TV tells you.

If you think these women and children are being forcefully put in front of the fighters, think again.

I GUARANTEE you, they do it voluntarily.

You know how I know that? Because I know the people of Palestine, you do not.

When you get some more education on this subject I would be happy to debate you, but we are on two entirely different playing fields here.

burnit
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Another meaningless comment. You lose, reconfirmed catdance
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Read this post just as two =^..^= 's were having a wee spat on the reuters audio.
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So target civilians..that's the answer. And that's supposed to help them how?

I think most sane, logical thinking people do not want to see any harm at all come to Palestinian civilians. I truly believe that Israel is only interested in targeting Hamas and militants who are capable and willing to do harm to Israel. It is very unfortunate that civilians have to get caught up in this shit. I place the blame squarely on Hamas for making sure they surround themselves with innocent people, so that when Israel retaliates, Hamas can parade the collateral damage.

If Hamas ceased to be, and there weren't any more rockets lobbed at Israel, there would be NO Gaza bombings, period.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Israel is way ahead in the death count.

Palis 108

Israel 3.

Get your facts straight

you = lala
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


Thanks to Hamas
 Quoting: Monk Meat


I'm sorry but there is something very wrong with you.

You need to start asking the hard questions, girl.

YOU AIN'T ON THE WINNING TEAM HERE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


How do you figure? To me I am :)
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That's all ya got, huh Bruce?

You lose hi
 Quoting: Monk Meat


honey you lose way back up their when you showed yourself up as an idiot. ROFL

hi


say g'day to your mum for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100666


Another meaningless comment. You lose, reconfirmed catdance
 Quoting: Monk Meat


I won a long time ago by handing you your ass...
5a
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I'm sorry but there is something very wrong with you.

You need to start asking the hard questions, girl.

YOU AIN'T ON THE WINNING TEAM HERE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100268


1rof1
 Quoting: littlemiracles


you realise you just insulted your fellow STARTARD, don't you?


cruisecruise
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Whats a STARTARD?...and he is a DUDE
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facepalm to you.
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Geez, I missed 15 pages...

Any news?
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[link to www2.ohchr.org]

what the UN human rights found in 2009 / do a search for human shields, there is plenty of evidence israel was / is doing that.

idf soldiers were arrested for such acts.





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