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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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prove that bold statement.
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I saw raw human meat shreds splattered on a roadway in Israel after one of those suicide bombings where they blew up a bus of innocent people..that was the end for me.

Anything you say is just Jihad to me. There is a price to pay for acts so grievous, the mind can't even process it. You wanna complain about Gaza civilian deaths? Don't bother. Anyone with a brain knows they are accidental.
 Quoting: ISO


ISO, can you tell that story? When was it? Why were you there? What happened?
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I wasn't there when it happened, I saw a video of the aftermath, and it was even more grotesque than anything we've seen in these Hamas propaganda films. The camera man showed huge chunks of human flesh just thrown onto a bridge overpass some 30 yards from the blast, blood stained road, it was the most horrifying thing i've ever seen, knowing that those people truly were innocent, and that Palestinians did this with full intent to destroy families, not "fight for freedom"

It makes me sick when activists accuse Israel of targetting civilians, when in fact it's the opposite.
 Quoting: ISO


^This^. If people haven't been there to see it, they just don't know. I was unfortunate enough to see the aftermath of such a bombing. It will stay with me until my dying day.
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I saw raw human meat shreds splattered on a roadway in Israel after one of those suicide bombings where they blew up a bus of innocent people..that was the end for me.

Anything you say is just Jihad to me. There is a price to pay for acts so grievous, the mind can't even process it. You wanna complain about Gaza civilian deaths? Don't bother. Anyone with a brain knows they are accidental.
 Quoting: ISO

My God, ISO.
 Quoting: Éireann


I agree ISo I think Israel is trying to keep civilian loss to a minimal and I think they are doing OK
 Quoting: reaperz73


Dead Civilians are bad for business. For them to sustain this action they need to keep the civilian casualties to an absolute minimum.
 Quoting: DR.D


Dr. D huh?

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First time I have seen ground troops on Reuters camera
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They were there yesterday but I don't think they were flying the flag
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I saw raw human meat shreds splattered on a roadway in Israel after one of those suicide bombings where they blew up a bus of innocent people..that was the end for me.

Anything you say is just Jihad to me. There is a price to pay for acts so grievous, the mind can't even process it. You wanna complain about Gaza civilian deaths? Don't bother. Anyone with a brain knows they are accidental.
 Quoting: ISO

My God, ISO.
 Quoting: Éireann


stfu dipshit.

drama
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28119507

Why? Experience is what shapes our perspectives. Since opinion and personal truth are the direct outcome of a person's perspective, life experience is important to understanding why we believe what we believe.

It's not drama. It's human.

Last Edited by Eireann on 11/19/2012 11:53 PM
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Is this old news?

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I think Teleport feed might be old or a repeat... The lighting disparity between that and the Reuters feed seems to be considerably more than just different f-stop settings.
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Aftermath of suicide bombing in Jerusalem 2004.
This video contains large chunks of human remains, body parts unrecognizable. You have been warned. THIS is why that wall is up around Gaza.



EVERY victim, an innocent person. You might say well Israel kills Palestinian innocents!

I would say they are accidental. Israel hit 900 buildings, with a death toll of 108 people, many of which were civilians, but if the goal was kill civilians, Gaza would be wiped.

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I think Teleport feed might be old or a repeat... The lighting disparity between that and the Reuters feed seems to be considerably more than just different f-stop settings.
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Could be- he's been having some tech difficulties today
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First time I have seen ground troops on Reuters camera
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They were there yesterday but I don't think they were flying the flag
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Yeah the flag is new, they know they're on TV :)
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On CNN right now: Israel braces for ground war
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Oh, praise the Lord he fixed the mic some

ETA- well maybe not

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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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On CNN right now: Israel braces for ground war
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


And US is sending warships for escalations LOL
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Oh, praise the Lord he fixed the mic some

ETA- well maybe not
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ugggh. i can't tell. I had to turn the volume halfway down. That ground hum is driving me nuts!
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Israel completely withdrew FROM Gaza in 2005. Your stupid little activist map doesn't fucking change that. Keep trying shit stain.
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you fucking liar.

granny
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I agree.
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Even with two of you
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The stupid is strong with this one.

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And how long is Mr. Blinky gonna talk on RT?!
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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did the picture freeze?
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I think this is what they hit!

IDF Strike on Munitions Storage Site Within Residential Suburb

[link to lockestep.blogspot.com]
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Wow!!
 Quoting: snark


Thats it...IDF has their own youtube channel. They just uploaded it a little while ago.



[link to youtu.be]
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Nope, wrong date.
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I saw raw human meat shreds splattered on a roadway in Israel after one of those suicide bombings where they blew up a bus of innocent people..that was the end for me.

Anything you say is just Jihad to me. There is a price to pay for acts so grievous, the mind can't even process it. You wanna complain about Gaza civilian deaths? Don't bother. Anyone with a brain knows they are accidental.
 Quoting: ISO

My God, ISO.
 Quoting: Éireann


We earned the right to do it...
 Quoting: ~JustMe~

I guess I should have highlighted the first part of what ISO was saying. Now I understand where he's coming from.
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My God, ISO.
 Quoting: Éireann


I agree ISo I think Israel is trying to keep civilian loss to a minimal and I think they are doing OK
 Quoting: reaperz73


Dead Civilians are bad for business. For them to sustain this action they need to keep the civilian casualties to an absolute minimum.
 Quoting: DR.D


Dr. D huh?

Nice to met you... I'm Dr. A
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


chuckle
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Cool! applause

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did the picture freeze?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


I think this is what they hit!

IDF Strike on Munitions Storage Site Within Residential Suburb

[link to lockestep.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28104451


Wow!!
 Quoting: snark


Thats it...IDF has their own youtube channel. They just uploaded it a little while ago.



[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28104451
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All Israel has ever wanted is peace and quiet. Yet, the same people who destroyed New York City won't let them have peace. Islam is the enemy of the entire world. As long as Islam survives there will be war. As long as Islam survives there will not be peace in the Middle East.
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First time I have seen ground troops on Reuters camera
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4135612


They were there yesterday but I don't think they were flying the flag
 Quoting: snark


This might be dumb, but is there a signifigace to flying the flag? In other words, why today and not yesterday?
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Aftermath of suicide bombing in Jerusalem 2004.
This video contains large chunks of human remains, body parts unrecognizable. You have been warned. THIS is why that wall is up around Gaza.



EVERY victim, an innocent person. You might say well Israel kills Palestinian innocents!

I would say they are accidental. Israel hit 900 buildings, with a death toll of 108 people, many of which were civilians, but if the goal was kill civilians, Gaza would be wiped.
 Quoting: ISO


I shouldn't have looked...
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RT is back on Gaza view, but I doubt there will be much happening now.
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RT is back to Gaza coverage.

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6:48: IDF strikes 100 targets in Gaza Strip overnight (Ch.10)
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First time I have seen ground troops on Reuters camera
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4135612


They were there yesterday but I don't think they were flying the flag
 Quoting: snark


This might be dumb, but is there a signifigace to flying the flag? In other words, why today and not yesterday?
 Quoting: Junie


Charge!!!!!!!
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Aftermath of suicide bombing in Jerusalem 2004.
This video contains large chunks of human remains, body parts unrecognizable. You have been warned. THIS is why that wall is up around Gaza.



EVERY victim, an innocent person. You might say well Israel kills Palestinian innocents!

I would say they are accidental. Israel hit 900 buildings, with a death toll of 108 people, many of which were civilians, but if the goal was kill civilians, Gaza would be wiped.
 Quoting: ISO


I shouldn't have looked...
 Quoting: littlemiracles


It's important to look so that people understand the reality behind why this blockade exists, and why Israel felt it necessary to effectively jail Gaza in. These suicide bombings were happening A LOT. This is just one example.
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First time I have seen ground troops on Reuters camera
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4135612


They were there yesterday but I don't think they were flying the flag
 Quoting: snark


This might be dumb, but is there a signifigace to flying the flag? In other words, why today and not yesterday?
 Quoting: Junie


Charge!!!!!!!
 Quoting: reaperz73


So, alluding to the ground invasion?

When will the US ships arrive? Would they withhold ground incursion until the US arrived?
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6:48: IDF strikes 100 targets in Gaza Strip overnight (Ch.10)
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06:57 The al-Qassam Brigades says it launched 10 projectiles toward Ashkelon and Kiryat Gat. Earlier, Israeli media reported that air raid sirens went off in those towns as well as Sderot.

06:42 In an apparent reference to the National Islamic Bank, the Israeli army says it bombed a "financial institution used by Hamas to fuel its terror activity".

Army statement says it also targeted several buildings "used by terror operatives as command and control centers" and "approximately ten terror tunnels" used as hideouts by Hamas.

06:41 Israeli army says it targeted "approximately 100 terror sites, including underground rocket launchers, terror tunnels and ammunition storage facilities" since midnight.

06:40 Reporter: Israeli aircraft target the home of a commander of Hamas' al-Qassam Brigades in Khan Younis.

[link to www.maannews.net]





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