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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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F16 on new bombing run

Things just heated up out of nowhere.
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Update please!
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Ceasefire or ground invasion?

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Hamas Leader Dares Israel to Invade Amid Gaza Airstrikes

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F16 on new bombing run

Things just heated up out of nowhere.
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Where are you seeing that?
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
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Gaza, at this point, is almost completely dependent on foreign aid. When Israel vacated Gaza they left them a thriving greenhouse industry but the Gaza Arabs destroyed them.
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
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They have small manufacturing. Their main import/export trade is through Sinai and Israel. Actually they are very industrious people. Let them be, and they'll go far...
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Hamas Leader Dares Israel to Invade Amid Gaza Airstrikes

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Triple Dog Dare....
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Morning

hf

Update please!
Doom on or off?
Ceasefire or ground invasion?

shocked
 Quoting: Limpan


Ohh crap your up early... Just lots of bombing.. Maybe invasion tonight. We will see...
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables"


but those industries are dying...


But they seem to be getting a lot of outside help.

One group called UNRWA is helping them with food/aid

[link to www.unrwa.org]



Even Israel is helping them...

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...

I saw raw human meat shreds splattered on a roadway in Israel after one of those suicide bombings where they blew up a bus of innocent people..that was the end for me.

Anything you say is just Jihad to me. There is a price to pay for acts so grievous, the mind can't even process it. You wanna complain about Gaza civilian deaths? Don't bother. Anyone with a brain knows they are accidental.
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ISO, can you tell that story? When was it? Why were you there? What happened?
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I wasn't there when it happened, I saw a video of the aftermath, and it was even more grotesque than anything we've seen in these Hamas propaganda films. The camera man showed huge chunks of human flesh just thrown onto a bridge overpass some 30 yards from the blast, blood stained road, it was the most horrifying thing i've ever seen, knowing that those people truly were innocent, and that Palestinians did this with full intent to destroy families, not "fight for freedom"

It makes me sick when activists accuse Israel of targetting civilians, when in fact it's the opposite.
 Quoting: ISO


^This^. If people haven't been there to see it, they just don't know. I was unfortunate enough to see the aftermath of such a bombing. It will stay with me until my dying day.
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Or as Shimon Peres and the Israeli Left referred to them:
"Victims of Peace".

That's right, as evil as HAMAS is... it would NOT have thrived without help from the cowardly, corrupt "post-Zionist" Israeli politicians like Peres, Yossi Beilin, Ben-Ami, et al.... and of course Israeli media like Ha'aretz, Yair Lapid who kept legitimizing the fraudulent "Palestinian" narrative & Peace talks grounded in ZERO reality....

As for the rest of the West... the joke will be on them, because Israel being the Western outpost & the proverbial Canary in the Mine..... once it is thrown under the bus by the West in silly hopes that the Islamic Crocodile will be satiated.... US & EU are NEXT on the Global Caliphate Docket!!!

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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
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Go look at Gaza on google maps. You will notice there is a lot of agriculture in the Gaza Strip. There is actually a lot of wide open farmland.

Obviously there is no trade with other countries. They get more aid than they know what to do with. Hamas hordes the aid and denies it to people who don't support them politically.

Then they kill them or knee cap them. Sometimes throw them off one of these buildings.

Israel sends in supplies shipped from other countries after inspecting for weapons.

Activists will lie and say Palestinians are starving.

They have a modern shopping mall, ball stadiums, it's a relatively modern society. It's just that they have a bloodlust to kill Jews and take Israel back for themselves.

Ironically they can't even take care of Gaza and they think they deserve the whole land of Israel for themselves.

They reproduce faster than almost any group on earth. Claims of Israeli genocide are buffered by the fact that the Palestinians' own census shows a very high climb in population. They reproduce MUCH faster than they die in these periodic skirmishes.

NOBODY is starving in Gaza. Those are propaganda lies. Search GLP for "Gaza markets overflowing with merchandise"
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Morning

hf

Update please!
Doom on or off?
Ceasefire or ground invasion?

shocked
 Quoting: Limpan


Ohh crap your up early... Just lots of bombing.. Maybe invasion tonight. We will see...
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


hf

But no official ceasefire ?
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Morning

hf

Update please!
Doom on or off?
Ceasefire or ground invasion?

shocked
 Quoting: Limpan


Ohh crap your up early... Just lots of bombing.. Maybe invasion tonight. We will see...
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


hf

But no official ceasefire ?
 Quoting: Limpan


nope
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
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Go look at Gaza on google maps. You will notice there is a lot of agriculture in the Gaza Strip. There is actually a lot of wide open farmland.

Obviously there is no trade with other countries. They get more aid than they know what to do with. Hamas hordes the aid and denies it to people who don't support them politically.

Then they kill them or knee cap them. Sometimes throw them off one of these buildings.

Israel sends in supplies shipped from other countries after inspecting for weapons.

Activists will lie and say Palestinians are starving.

They have a modern shopping mall, ball stadiums, it's a relatively modern society. It's just that they have a bloodlust to kill Jews and take Israel back for themselves.

Ironically they can't even take care of Gaza and they think they deserve the whole land of Israel for themselves.

They reproduce faster than almost any group on earth. Claims of Israeli genocide are buffered by the fact that the Palestinians' own census shows a very high climb in population. They reproduce MUCH faster than they die in these periodic skirmishes.

NOBODY is starving in Gaza. Those are propaganda lies. Search GLP for "Gaza markets overflowing with merchandise"
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Interesting...thanks all for the answers...hf
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Morning

hf

Update please!
Doom on or off?
Ceasefire or ground invasion?

shocked
 Quoting: Limpan


Ohh crap your up early... Just lots of bombing.. Maybe invasion tonight. We will see...
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


Reports Netanyahu agrees ground invasion for yet another 24 hours. Two reasons. Intensive indirect negotiations continuing in Egypt. The other is Israel wants to draw out as much time to blow up Hamas targets before either a ceasefire or invasion. Still on a knife edge.
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables"


but those industries are dying...

 Quoting: Dr. Acula

The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables. Pollution and massive population pressure on water have reduced the productive capacity of the surrounding farms, however

Small-scale industries in the city include the production of plastics, construction materials, textiles, furniture, pottery, tiles, copperware, and carpets.


Israel is helping them? There is a blockade. And they control the water...
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Looks to me like they do there best not to have civilian casualties

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Morning

hf

Update please!
Doom on or off?
Ceasefire or ground invasion?

shocked
 Quoting: Limpan


Ohh crap your up early... Just lots of bombing.. Maybe invasion tonight. We will see...
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


hf

But no official ceasefire ?
 Quoting: Limpan


Rumors, disinfo, speculation, but no. Nothing official. I wouldn't buy it anyway. Only real indication of a cease fire will be....ceasing of fire. So far that aint happening.
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


Go look at Gaza on google maps. You will notice there is a lot of agriculture in the Gaza Strip. There is actually a lot of wide open farmland.

Obviously there is no trade with other countries. They get more aid than they know what to do with. Hamas hordes the aid and denies it to people who don't support them politically.

Then they kill them or knee cap them. Sometimes throw them off one of these buildings.

Israel sends in supplies shipped from other countries after inspecting for weapons.

Activists will lie and say Palestinians are starving.

They have a modern shopping mall, ball stadiums, it's a relatively modern society. It's just that they have a bloodlust to kill Jews and take Israel back for themselves.

Ironically they can't even take care of Gaza and they think they deserve the whole land of Israel for themselves.

They reproduce faster than almost any group on earth. Claims of Israeli genocide are buffered by the fact that the Palestinians' own census shows a very high climb in population. They reproduce MUCH faster than they die in these periodic skirmishes.

NOBODY is starving in Gaza. Those are propaganda lies. Search GLP for "Gaza markets overflowing with merchandise"
 Quoting: ISO


dasbier Thank you....
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables"


but those industries are dying...

 Quoting: Dr. Acula

The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables. Pollution and massive population pressure on water have reduced the productive capacity of the surrounding farms, however

Small-scale industries in the city include the production of plastics, construction materials, textiles, furniture, pottery, tiles, copperware, and carpets.


Israel is helping them? There is a blockade. And they control the water...
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And Mexico? WEED!!!!!!
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Hamas Leader Dares Israel to Invade Amid Gaza Airstrikes

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Triple Dog Dare....
 Quoting: littlemiracles


yeah...i doubt a ceasefire will happen.
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Damn commercial scared the crap out of me
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Guy doing interview in the background... [link to rt.com]


well, he was,,,
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Guy doing interview in the background... [link to rt.com]


well, he was,,,
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


From what I heard him say, he expects something to take a couple of days...not sure what the gist was..

I think it was that the ceasefire isn't active yet
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Off topic question...how does Gaza survive economically? Is there any industry there? They are so crowded and have so little land.
 Quoting: littlemiracles


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables"


but those industries are dying...

 Quoting: Dr. Acula

The major agricultural products are strawberries, citrus, dates, olives, flowers, and various vegetables. Pollution and massive population pressure on water have reduced the productive capacity of the surrounding farms, however

Small-scale industries in the city include the production of plastics, construction materials, textiles, furniture, pottery, tiles, copperware, and carpets.


Israel is helping them? There is a blockade. And they control the water...
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And Mexico? WEED!!!!!!
 Quoting: ~JustMe~


And not the best, either. :(
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08:31AM Hamas fires eight rockets toward Beersheba; 5 intercepted by Iron Dome !

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08:31AM Hamas fires eight rockets toward Beersheba; 5 intercepted by Iron Dome !

[link to www.jpost.com]
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peaceful cease fire rockets filled with kittens! Oh that wacky Hamas.





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