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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Israeli govt spokesman tells CNN truce deal with Gaza militants not finalized, "ball still in play"

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I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy who says ceasefire.

lol
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ceasefire
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Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one
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Are you kidding? Israel has everything to lose and nothing to gain. The only ceasefire that could possibly occur is an unconditional one.

Hamas will be nothing more that a memory soon.
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now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed

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REU: ISRAELI GOVT SPOKESMAN TELLS CNN TRUCE DEAL WITH GAZA MILITANTS NOT FINALISED, "BALL STILL IN PLAY"
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I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy who says ceasefire.

lol
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ceasefire
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I love Aussie mates. They don't really give a hack; brave, honest, rebellious real Aussie digger. rockon
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cheers

cheers mate
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the ceasefire starts in 5 hours and 20 minuets.
its 18:40 in israel and gaza right now.
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30 minutes
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I think you're confusing Israel local time with GMT/ UTC
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gmt is the time on this site +5 hours :-)
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You are aware that the time posted o this site can be adjusted to your local time as you log in, right?

Oh wait......
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tbh i would like to but i hate the horrible karma people leave. Why is it better if i log in?
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I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy who says ceasefire.

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1553981


ceasefire
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28141055


I love Aussie mates. They don't really give a hack; brave, honest, rebellious real Aussie digger. rockon
 Quoting: Cons 28131887


That's my long lost brother.
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Ministerial panel approves Defense Minister Ehud Barak's proposal to expand Iron Dome budget by NIS 750 million (Haaretz)
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Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084


Wrong.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


No. The four point agreement plan has been agreed.
Hamas stops rockets and israel will stop targetting hamas polititians, Bloackade lifted.. its all on the msm.
Pretty gutless from israel. No wonder they want the US to take on Iran. Israel dont have the balls
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Only time will tell. The Lord knows what He is doing. That is for sure.
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I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy who says ceasefire.

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1553981


ceasefire
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28141055


I love Aussie mates. They don't really give a hack; brave, honest, rebellious real Aussie digger. rockon
 Quoting: Cons 28131887


cheers

cheers mate
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;)
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the ceasefire starts in 5 hours and 20 minuets.
its 18:40 in israel and gaza right now.
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Thanks for ending the disagreement hf
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"We will continue until we achieve our goals while trying to avoid harming innocent civilians," Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
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the ceasefire starts in 5 hours and 20 minuets.
its 18:40 in israel and gaza right now.
 Quoting: BrotherNature


So what are you hearing or what is your opinion if I may ask?
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


CNN live here.... they're not sure whtere it was a rocket, or bits of one they shot down....

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"We will continue until we achieve our goals while trying to avoid harming innocent civilians," Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak
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yeah but what is the goal?
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


CNN live here....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


link?
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now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
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Link ?
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now! egypt still supplying ASAD/HAMAS as we speak, and west bank just got bombed
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Source? If West Bank got bombed, it is big.
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


CNN live here....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


By who? Israel or accidental Gaza rockets?
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The Associated Press @AP

BREAKING: Senior Hamas official says no cease-fire deal with Israel but agreement is close.
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the ultimatum Israel gave Hamas yesterday (36 hours..) ends in two hours
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And Netanyahu delayed the ground invasion time frame by 24 hours last night. So it's 26 hours off as of now.
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the ceasefire starts in 5 hours and 20 minuets.
its 18:40 in israel and gaza right now.
 Quoting: BrotherNature


Thanks for ending the disagreement hf
 Quoting: littlemiracles


no problem hf
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either IDF will counter the rocket attacks from earlier before a ceasefire is declared

or there will be no ceasefire. all reports of ceasefire are from arab sources. even the western/israeli news sources reporting from egyptian/palestinian sources. hamas is at their high point. there are reports the truce includes an end to targeted killings of hamas leaders, which is how this operation began.

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 Quoting: tarfonwxx



The only cease fire agreement INCLUDES Hamas disarmament AND Israel's TOTAL (not in phases) lifting Gaza blockade.

Does ANY of the two above can be achieved? YEP...but WHICH ONE FIRST?

So you see...Hamas CANNOT disarm first (and tbh, who will disarm them - UN or Israel?) because they are afraid to do that.Blockade cannot be lifted first, because Hamas will get MORE rockets and arms thru egyptian Sinai...Egypt is under MB control.


so...NO CEASE FIRE whatsoever.
hiding
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Non starter. The blockade already has too many leaks, Israel would need to control the Gaza/Sinai crossings. So why would Hamas give up something they already have? And esp their arms? Not likely..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


And this is WHY there can't be a cease fire...Israel must secure 10-15 miles in Sinai adiacent to the Strip.

Egyptians also KNOW that...
 Quoting: recollector


And Egypt is out of the picture, and can do little. That's
the difference from the old status quo. I dont think Israel can control that border when they have antagonists on both sides -- Gaza and Sinai.
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@AP BREAKING: Senior Hamas official says no cease-fire deal with Israel but agreement is close (1 minute ago)
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abc is saying ceasefire will be announced at 1pm eastern abc says no cease fire that its just talk such conflicting info
And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram

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live now.. peace is broked.. they say.... but 'no deal'

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cnn just said isreal denies ceasefire talk
And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram

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Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084


Wrong.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


No. The four point agreement plan has been agreed.
Hamas stops rockets and israel will stop targetting hamas polititians, Bloackade lifted.. its all on the msm.
Pretty gutless from israel. No wonder they want the US to take on Iran. Israel dont have the balls
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084

I tend to agree. But they can't be this stupid. Agreeing to lift or relax the blockade will create new problems. So Israel in a way is agreeing to it because they know lifting the blockade will provide Hamas the opportunity to violate the rules.





GLP