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Acc 2 @almanarnews, Popular Front for Liberation of #Palestine -General Command (PFLP - GC) claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing.

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#pt: PFLP - GC who claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing, is very close to #Syria regime, has various camps in #Lebanon.
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Anyone have a clue what the percentage of people in Palestine who are opposed to hamas is????
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections:


Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own.

Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject.
 Quoting: Cons 28196357


they rule through fear verysad

Hamas–Fatah conflict

Human Rights Watch estimates several hundred Gazans were "maimed" and tortured in the aftermath of the Gaza War. 73 Gazan men accused of "collaborating" had their arms and legs broken by "unidentified perpetrators" and 18 Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel, who had escaped from Gaza's main prison compound after Israel bombed the facility, were executed by Hamas security officials in the first days of the conflict.[136][137]

Hamas security forces reportedly shot and tortured Palestinians who opposed Hamas rule in Gaza and openly supported Israel's attack. One victim, recovering from multiple gunshot wounds in the leg, told Human Rights Watch he was "so happy they bombed that I was giving out sweets."[136]

In another case, a Palestinian had criticized Hamas in a conversation on the street with some friends. Later that day, more than a dozen armed men with black masks and red kaffiyeh took the man from his home, and brought him to a solitary area where they shot him three times in the lower legs and ankles. The man told Human Rights Watch that he was not politically active.[136]

Hamas security forces attacked hundreds Fatah officials who supported Israel. Human Rights Watch interviewed one such person:

"There were eight of us sitting there. We were all from Fatah. Then three masked militants broke in. They were dressed in brown camouflage military uniforms; they all had guns. They pointed their guns at us and cursed us, then they began beating us with iron rods, including a 10-year-old boy whom they hit in the face. They said we were "collaborators" and "unfaithful." They beat me with iron sticks and gun butts for 15 minutes. They were yelling: "You are happy that Israel is bombing us!" until people came out of their houses, and they withdrew.[136]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx



Thx for sharing that.

Was laying in bed this morning feeling quite comfortable and thinking of the poor people in the ME and how frightened they must be to close their eyes for fear of a rocket exploding.

Then I wondered why don't the "peaceful" people rise up against hamas.. apparently that isn't going to work.
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


It's really one of the most difficult places on earth. If Egypt opened their border to Palestinian refugees that would be a big help, but sadly many use the situation as fodder for the conflict. They don't want to give up the Gazan front. Ideology (on both sides) trumping people's lives is deplorable.
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Israel

NAVAL POWER

Total Navy Ships: 64
Merchant Marine Strength: 10 [2011]
Major Ports & Terminals: 4
Aircraft Carriers: 0 [2011]
Destroyers: 0 [2011]
Submarines: 3 [2011]
Frigates: 0 [2011]
Patrol Craft: 42 [2011]
Mine Warfare Craft: 0 [2011]
Amphibious Assault Craft: 0 [2011]
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You forgot one...

Backup Fleet: USA Naval Forces
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Please do not forget the entire Dutch Navy that will stand side to side with the Israeli and American navy when it comes to the point.

;-)
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helemaal niet man, waar heb je het over? nederland moet neutraal blijven, laat ze elkaar maar afmaken.
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We see them here in the uk, beating their wifs,, killing their children and family if they look at the wrong man, dressing their wifes up head to toe with only slits for eyes, making them walk behind their husbands several paces. All that shit and far more. You might be working with them and all of a sudden they'll stop drop everything and start praying on the ground.

its fucking ridiculous. who thought up this shit!
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Some hallucinating blood thirsty lunatic named Mohammed.
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Israel

NAVAL POWER

Total Navy Ships: 64
Merchant Marine Strength: 10 [2011]
Major Ports & Terminals: 4
Aircraft Carriers: 0 [2011]
Destroyers: 0 [2011]
Submarines: 3 [2011]
Frigates: 0 [2011]
Patrol Craft: 42 [2011]
Mine Warfare Craft: 0 [2011]
Amphibious Assault Craft: 0 [2011]
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX



You forgot one...

Backup Fleet: USA Naval Forces
 Quoting: MisterHouston


Please do not forget the entire Dutch Navy that will stand side to side with the Israeli and American navy when it comes to the point.

;-)
 Quoting: jahbulon49


helemaal niet man, waar heb je het over? nederland moet neutraal blijven, laat ze elkaar maar afmaken.
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stoner zoals we altijd al zijn
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Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza.

To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily).
 Quoting: recollector


Yeah...BUT Hamas was democratically elected in Gaza so they practically did this to themselves !

It is very sad what is happening to civilians in Gaza but they knew Hamas was a terrorist organization when they elected them and now they suffer the consequences...unfortunately !
 Quoting: subzero86




Opps... Kinda like us in the U.S.
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you so silly
you funny funny
me laugh so hard
you laugh me long time GI

yes joey
they do
they make sand bags out of babies
and and
joey
they take the baybags and use
them as shields, in the tunnels ......joey.........
in the tunnels


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Ok well you said it.
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So it really is ok for the |IDF to use flame throwers in the tunnels?? You were just messing with me?
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...


You should be in for some interesting first hand stories!
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Well thats if he goes, but Im sure he'll enjoy
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Tis apparently a beautiful country.
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Iran is gorgeous. The architecture there is truly unbelievable. Museums full of ancient history. Fabulous art and literature. I wish I had the money to go see the ancient site of Babylon in Iraq too. That would be cool.
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Most of the architecture and science has been stolen by Muslim from the countries they invaded.
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#pt: PFLP - GC who claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing, is very close to #Syria regime, has various camps in #Lebanon.
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AGENCY FRANCE PRESSE (@AFP): IRANIAN PARLIAMENT SPEAKER ALI LARIJANI SAYS IRAN HAS SENT MILITARY AID TO HAMAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002


Iran painting itself as a target.


Don't you worry Mr Dinnerjacket, you're next.
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Technically, if true, Iran is at war with Israel no?
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Well no, because the US gives billions in military aid to Israel, and using your rationale that would mean that the US is waging war on the Palestinians, and in the past, half of the Middle East.
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Well, yes. If Iran is supplying military aid to a party that is then attacking Israel with it, then Israel is under no obligation to treat Iranian shipping as neutral.

And you're right -- a state that's fighting Israel would be justified in preventing US shipping carrying aid to Israel from reaching its destination.

Non-state organizations, like Hamas? Hard to say what they can do under international law.
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Cease-fire will not be announced on Wednesday, due to disagreement over the Gaza blockade, Palestinian sources in Cairo say - @Haaretzcom

Will Bibi agree for more time for diplomacy?
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#pt: PFLP - GC who claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing, is very close to #Syria regime, has various camps in #Lebanon.

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thought it was al aqsa brigades?
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Anyone have a clue what the percentage of people in Palestine who are opposed to hamas is????
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


These are stats from 2006 where Palestine hold Free elections:


Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own.

Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now, stats might have changed since 2006 we do not know exactly but what we know for sure is that Hamas won the elections and were not allowed to rule. That's one of the reason they "forcefully" took over Gaza strip. Its politics and long story. You have plenty of info on the net if you interested on that subject.
 Quoting: Cons 28196357


they rule through fear verysad

Hamas–Fatah conflict

Human Rights Watch estimates several hundred Gazans were "maimed" and tortured in the aftermath of the Gaza War. 73 Gazan men accused of "collaborating" had their arms and legs broken by "unidentified perpetrators" and 18 Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel, who had escaped from Gaza's main prison compound after Israel bombed the facility, were executed by Hamas security officials in the first days of the conflict.[136][137]

Hamas security forces reportedly shot and tortured Palestinians who opposed Hamas rule in Gaza and openly supported Israel's attack. One victim, recovering from multiple gunshot wounds in the leg, told Human Rights Watch he was "so happy they bombed that I was giving out sweets."[136]

In another case, a Palestinian had criticized Hamas in a conversation on the street with some friends. Later that day, more than a dozen armed men with black masks and red kaffiyeh took the man from his home, and brought him to a solitary area where they shot him three times in the lower legs and ankles. The man told Human Rights Watch that he was not politically active.[136]

Hamas security forces attacked hundreds Fatah officials who supported Israel. Human Rights Watch interviewed one such person:

"There were eight of us sitting there. We were all from Fatah. Then three masked militants broke in. They were dressed in brown camouflage military uniforms; they all had guns. They pointed their guns at us and cursed us, then they began beating us with iron rods, including a 10-year-old boy whom they hit in the face. They said we were "collaborators" and "unfaithful." They beat me with iron sticks and gun butts for 15 minutes. They were yelling: "You are happy that Israel is bombing us!" until people came out of their houses, and they withdrew.[136]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: tarfonwxx



Thx for sharing that.

Was laying in bed this morning feeling quite comfortable and thinking of the poor people in the ME and how frightened they must be to close their eyes for fear of a rocket exploding.

Then I wondered why don't the "peaceful" people rise up against hamas.. apparently that isn't going to work.
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


Now you understand. People will never rise against Hamas as it is legitimate ruler of Palestine territory. You can also have a look at the image bellow (green Hamas, red Fatah) and see clearly that Hamas has overwhelming support even in the West-Bank.

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Cheers
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hello everyone Just got back from college any chance of a brief update

much obliged hf
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Im hearing outgoing rockets on the cam!!!

incoming!!!!!
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It's boring now that Gaza is the only one getting hit. I liked it better when the shit was hitting the fan on both sides of the fence.
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ya ya
more killing
ya ya
more guts flying
ya ya
more death
ya ya
kill kill kill
ya ya ya

what another one who is mistaking boredom for being an IDIOT

shit
its contagious

ok nice talking to you

you have a great day
bye

love ya
bye

ok

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Well, there are plenty...about 1,5 million civilians in Gaza.

To bad that they have no power whatsoever and are used by Hamas as human shields and propagabda bodies (dead preferabily).
 Quoting: recollector


Yeah...BUT Hamas was democratically elected in Gaza so they practically did this to themselves !

It is very sad what is happening to civilians in Gaza but they knew Hamas was a terrorist organization when they elected them and now they suffer the consequences...unfortunately !
 Quoting: subzero86


exactly, just like the majority in my country elected president numbnuts...now they gotta deal with his antics for four more years. As the saying goes " you make your bed, now sleep in it.."
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We see them here in the uk, beating their wifs,, killing their children and family if they look at the wrong man, dressing their wifes up head to toe with only slits for eyes, making them walk behind their husbands several paces. All that shit and far more. You might be working with them and all of a sudden they'll stop drop everything and start praying on the ground.

its fucking ridiculous. who thought up this shit!
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Yep, its a fuck up
 Quoting: strikeforce


You forgot the ones that go around in gangs grooming and sexually molesting young British girls.

The list is endless and very tiring to witness.
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#pt: PFLP - GC who claimed responsibility for #TelAviv bus bombing, is very close to #Syria regime, has various camps in #Lebanon.

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War on Lebanon and Syria soon??
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It's boring now that Gaza is the only one getting hit. I liked it better when the shit was hitting the fan on both sides of the fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002


ya ya
more killing
ya ya
more guts flying
ya ya
more death
ya ya
kill kill kill
ya ya ya

what another one who is mistaking boredom for being an IDIOT

shit
its contagious

ok nice talking to you

you have a great day
bye

love ya
bye

ok

bye



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For I am Finklestein

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Sounds like a punk rock song.
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hello everyone Just got back from college any chance of a brief update

much obliged hf
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Bus bomb in TA...more air strikes in Gaza.

NO WAY of cease fire at least today...ground op is more likely than ever.
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Thing is, Christianity underwent change during the Age of Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution in the West. It had to alter to become less patriarchal and more about promoting wider social freedom, hence women being allowed to vote etc.

Islam has never had to undergo such a change. It's an anachronism in the 21st century, mainly followed by poor uneducated people who are easily led, and possibly pissed off with the West for exploiting them.

Personally, I'd ban the practice of Islam if I ran a country, and deport any devotees to Saudi where they can live as they please.
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We see them here in the uk, beating their wifs,, killing their children and family if they look at the wrong man, dressing their wifes up head to toe with only slits for eyes, making them walk behind their husbands several paces. All that shit and far more. You might be working with them and all of a sudden they'll stop drop everything and start praying on the ground.

its fucking ridiculous. who thought up this shit!
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Yep, its a fuck up
 Quoting: strikeforce


You forgot the ones that go around in gangs grooming and sexually molesting young British girls.

The list is endless and very tiring to witness.
 Quoting: Ythra


And the girls that they force into arranged marriages.
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hello everyone Just got back from college any chance of a brief update

much obliged hf
 Quoting: Anderson_G


over the last 12 both sides attacked each other

about 3 hours ago explosion in Tel Aviv killed at least 3... carried out by possibly Fatah...

They said female prep placed explosive device...

two more possible explosions in Tel Aviv

Israel retaliated with a mighty air strike...

Hilary Clinton is somewhere in the region babbling on and on
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BREAKING: 5 #Palestinians were reported dead in fresh #Israeli raids on the #Gaza strip

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