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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28207403  Australia11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way PEACE can be obtained is AFTER A WAR who will have a CLEAR WINNER. Quoting: recollector Anything less is waste of time. What Israel wants is peace WITHOUT WAR :norespsct: If that were true, Israel would be fighting fair. Israel = terrorist Israel is NOT STARTING this fights.And surely don't want them escalate into war because Israel CAN AND WILL DESTROY all arabs arond. The SIMPLE fact that Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan are STILL there, is the fact that Israel DOES NOT WANT WAR. And we will all see how Israel CAN REALLY fight, when Egypt and Iran will join the fray. At that point, NUKES will be used...after that no matter who was figting fair or not... WAR IS NOT FAIR.WINNER takes all. amen to that doesn't matter.. Israel is playing dirty pool. In the eyes of the world it doesn't look good |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18225135  United States11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hamas are terrorists and I revel in their deaths. There is nothing wrong with enjoying justice being delivered to the murderers of children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27874496 So go stuff it. Find a metaphysical thread where you can expound on energy vibes or some other dumb arse thing. This is a war thread. Israel have murded 86 children in the last 7 days Israel = terrorist And Hamas put their military equipment next to populated areas where civilian casualties would occur. This violates international law. Hamas has been deemed a terrorist organization by several countries. Get the facts straight before trying to tell half truths and fantasies to the public. You are irresponsible and rather dimwitted. When Hamas is firing rockets randomly at Israel did they drop leaflets first warning the civilians to get out of harms way? Nope. But Israel has done this for the Palestinians. So why do you accuse Israel of being terrorists when they acting as any country would in this situation? |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 1495371 United States11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 15:00 P.M. Update: Palestinians report two killed in airstrike near al-Khanzandar gas station. The two killed are identified as Mohammad al-Shqar, aged 22, and Mahmoud Abu Khusa, aged 13. 2:54 P.M. Four killed in IDF air strike on Beit Hanoun 2:50 P.M. IDF assassinates Hamas activist in the northern Gaza Strip. 2:48 P.M. Palestinian sources in Cairo say a cease-fire will not be announced on Wednesday, due to disagreement over the Gaza blockade. The source says that Israel refuses to include the lifting of the blockade as a term in the truce agreement. [link to www.haaretz.com] |
| ThesonofhendriX User ID: 1546575  United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Tweex User ID: 2377823 United States11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Iranian 150-ton freighter has reportedly departed the Bandar Abbas port, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles, and 50 improved long-range Fajr-5 rockets bound for the Gaza Strip. According to news agencies, the ship has turned towards the Bab al-Mandeb Straits, and the Red Sea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002 Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, refused to comment on the allegations, but stressed the importance of the Palestinian being able to ‘defend themselves’, and that all countries should defend the rights of the Palestinian people. If the cache arrives successfully, it will signal a radical upshift in arms capability, as the Fajr-5s have a 200-kilo warheads, a sizeable increase on the 175 kilos delivered by the rockets in current use by the Palestinian terrorists of the Gaza Strip. Any such rocket landing in an urban area, would cause wide-scale devastation. [link to jn1.tv]  If they knew this to be true, an airstrike on that ship would be taking place right now. This is what will be used to sink those ships if they try to run the blockade. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Tweex on 11/21/2012 08:52 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28008747 United States11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way of fighting is not to fight at all. But as Israel is being forced to fight, if it must really fight, it will fight to win. "Fighting fair" I don't know what is meant by the people who say that. Do they have fire some unguided rockets randomly into Gaza and use suicide bombers? No I don't think this should be expected. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17874041 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shalom brother Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17874041  It is doom when I support one of the teams  ww3 is coming! Shalom u'vracha brother ! It's nice to see you posting from Britain...from the sea of muslims !  Not where I am, Jewish communtity, time is almost at hand. Keep up the updates you and DB, g-d bless you Kol Tuv |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1580790 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was brought up in a free country, as a christian but was not forced to obey this religion. I am free! Quoting: ThesonofhendriX When i see religions like Islam and the way they are forced to live, it looks hideous like living in some kind of prison camp in the darkages. Countries like Iran should not be allowed to exist in the 21st century. or at least they should not be allowed to interact with the rest of the world, and certainly should not be allowed to practise their sick beliefs in other peoples countries. Mate, just because they have different beliefs and laws, doesn't mean they deserve to die. Sure you're entitled to an opinion, but use a little common sense here, this is people's lives we're talking about, human beings, good and bad, there's extremes in all cultures and civilisations. The bad apples always ruin the rest of the barrel, and until humanity can rise above the act of killing each other because of fear or the unknown, that will never change. The stupid thing is, most of these religions preach from the same bible, "Thou shalt not kill" being one of the 10 commandments. And here they are killing each other in the name of their 'own' god, who happens to be the same god anyway. If they truly believe their bibles, then they are hypocrites, however I believe there's more to this than just beliefs, there's pure hatred, bigotry and racism at the root, if you wish to be a part of that, then so be it. I say, bravo.  At what point did i state "they deserve to die" stfu! Thanks, I'm glad you agree with me, mostly : ) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28206753 United States11/21/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hamas are terrorists and I revel in their deaths. There is nothing wrong with enjoying justice being delivered to the murderers of children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27874496 So go stuff it. Find a metaphysical thread where you can expound on energy vibes or some other dumb arse thing. This is a war thread. Israel have murded 86 children in the last 7 days Israel = terrorist Beat me to it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28207403 Australia11/21/2012 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hamas are terrorists and I revel in their deaths. There is nothing wrong with enjoying justice being delivered to the murderers of children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27874496 So go stuff it. Find a metaphysical thread where you can expound on energy vibes or some other dumb arse thing. This is a war thread. Israel have murded 86 children in the last 7 days Israel = terrorist And Hamas put their military equipment next to populated areas where civilian casualties would occur. This violates international law. Hamas has been deemed a terrorist organization by several countries. Get the facts straight before trying to tell half truths and fantasies to the public. You are irresponsible and rather dimwitted. When Hamas is firing rockets randomly at Israel did they drop leaflets first warning the civilians to get out of harms way? Nope. But Israel has done this for the Palestinians. So why do you accuse Israel of being terrorists when they acting as any country would in this situation? Israel dropped leaflets day 5. GTFO of here |
| tarfonwxx User ID: 4695650 United States11/21/2012 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Iranian 150-ton freighter has reportedly departed the Bandar Abbas port, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles, and 50 improved long-range Fajr-5 rockets bound for the Gaza Strip. According to news agencies, the ship has turned towards the Bab al-Mandeb Straits, and the Red Sea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800002 Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, refused to comment on the allegations, but stressed the importance of the Palestinian being able to ‘defend themselves’, and that all countries should defend the rights of the Palestinian people. If the cache arrives successfully, it will signal a radical upshift in arms capability, as the Fajr-5s have a 200-kilo warheads, a sizeable increase on the 175 kilos delivered by the rockets in current use by the Palestinian terrorists of the Gaza Strip. Any such rocket landing in an urban area, would cause wide-scale devastation. [link to jn1.tv] If they knew this to be true, an airstrike on that ship would be taking place right now. This is what will be used to sink those ships if they try to run the blockade. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Iran also smuggles them through Sudan, Egypt and the tunnels to Gaza. |
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| ThesonofhendriX User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1580790 Mate, just because they have different beliefs and laws, doesn't mean they deserve to die. Sure you're entitled to an opinion, but use a little common sense here, this is people's lives we're talking about, human beings, good and bad, there's extremes in all cultures and civilisations. The bad apples always ruin the rest of the barrel, and until humanity can rise above the act of killing each other because of fear or the unknown, that will never change. The stupid thing is, most of these religions preach from the same bible, "Thou shalt not kill" being one of the 10 commandments. And here they are killing each other in the name of their 'own' god, who happens to be the same god anyway. If they truly believe their bibles, then they are hypocrites, however I believe there's more to this than just beliefs, there's pure hatred, bigotry and racism at the root, if you wish to be a part of that, then so be it. I say, bravo. At what point did i state "they deserve to die" stfu! Thanks, I'm glad you agree with me, mostly : ) so im not all bad? Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28207403 Australia11/21/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28208163  China11/21/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is no coincidence that Egypt and Syria have been weakened and unable to make a stand. In this whole situation the Palestinians are on the high ground. I know chances are small but I wish for Israel to finally be neutralized as a global threat. |
| superflyscot User ID: 14397275 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe someone can answer this, it's bugging me, and I don't wanna read all thousand threads for the answer.... If Bibi is up for re-election, he won't want to endanger ground troops. Won't be popular. But if he does commit, and Israel take over Gaza, it will be popular. So...is this his conundrum...either fall back or go hell for leather? "Don't hate the black, don't hate the white, if you get bitten, just hate the bite" Sly Stone 'We’re the middle children of history. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives.' 'The world is a drama, staged in a dream' |
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| Tweex User ID: 2377823 United States11/21/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cargo ships are usually slow. 10-15 knots. It'll take that ship 2-3 days to even get to the Suez canal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27874496 Israel shouldn't board the ship. They should just torpedo it. As I said... [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342725 United States11/21/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe someone can answer this, it's bugging me, and I don't wanna read all thousand threads for the answer.... Quoting: superflyscot If Bibi is up for re-election, he won't want to endanger ground troops. Won't be popular. But if he does commit, and Israel take over Gaza, it will be popular. So...is this his conundrum...either fall back or go hell for leather? Election is pointless man. They're all rigged. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17874041 United Kingdom11/21/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26267834 Romania11/21/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not where I am, Jewish communtity, time is almost at hand. Keep up the updates you and DB, g-d bless you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17874041 Kol Tuv Can you tell where exactly in Britain is there a Jewish community ? Cos I've been to Leeds, Birmingham, London and Manchester and it's crawling with muslims ! Infested ! So I'm really curious where is this place you're talking about! G-d bless you too brother ! |
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| Limpan User ID: 1474973  Sweden11/21/2012 08:56 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nir Dvori (Channel 2 News): According to one police estimate, the terror attack in Tel Aviv was carried out by Israeli Arabs sent by Hezbollah Quoting: tarfonwxx Israeli Arabs = Arabs living inside the '67 borders of Israel, i.e. in central, northern Israel Hezbollah = Lebanese group with defense pact with Hamas We are seeing a small dominos stacking up. When they fall, we have a big conflict that will affect the whole Middle East.  |
