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| Jessers (OP) User ID: 24515302 11/14/2012 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, there was an explosion in City Hall in San Francisco [link to abclocal.go.com] Love looks forward, hate looks back, anxiety has eyes all over its head. |
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| Project_Deimos User ID: 25306802 11/14/2012 10:41 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piper Cherokee. Sounded like it was "running out of gas" right after takeoff. Probably the electric fuel pumps failed. I have been told repeatedly by experienced pilots that low wing planes are death traps. Won't find me in one. "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
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| Rain-Man User ID: 27744183 11/14/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Most Dangerous Time for Strong Earthquakes in 2012, Super Full Moon, Alignment of Earth-Sun-Jupiter, Venus Transit, Solar Eclipse over USA & JP Thread: Strange Sounds,Strange Rumblings, Sonic Booms, The Hum, Groaning, Earthquake Connection, Electromagnetic Voices, Post Your Recordings Here EARTHQUAKE FORECAST [link to igipop.webs.com] |
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| Jessers (OP) User ID: 2300794 11/14/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was another house explosion in Indiana which is the link before this post. Craziness these days.... Quoting: Jessers yeah total craziness these days. these things happen all the time and just so happen to hit the news and now it's the end of the world. Not saying the end of the world at all. Craziness these last couple of days. I can't stand jerks like you. Go away Love looks forward, hate looks back, anxiety has eyes all over its head. |
| mr_brightside74 User ID: 23755869 11/14/2012 03:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piper Cherokee. Sounded like it was "running out of gas" right after takeoff. Probably the electric fuel pumps failed. Quoting: Project_Deimos I have been told repeatedly by experienced pilots that low wing planes are death traps. Won't find me in one. The Cherokee has an engine driven fuel pump with electric backup that you use on takeoff and landing. I love how you armchair pilots seem to know the cause of the crash nearly before it even happened. Mr. Brightside |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17930414 11/14/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piper Cherokee. Sounded like it was "running out of gas" right after takeoff. Probably the electric fuel pumps failed. Quoting: Project_Deimos I have been told repeatedly by experienced pilots that low wing planes are death traps. Won't find me in one. Just FYI The PA-28-161 has Both engine driven and electric fuel pumps (boost), and a L/R and BOTH tank source switch to the left of the pilot seat.. The engine driven pump is automatic, but switching on the electric fuel boost pump is a prime step of every procedure for the Archer / Cherokee. Also under the panel on the pilots side is an alternate air source (intake) valve should debris cover the cowling during climb out. The major issue with the PA28 is a flat spin, almost impossible to recover without a drag chute on board. Also should the fuel tank caps not have a vent, the tanks can become vapor-locked in flight and thus no fuel.. I always check for cap vents on any plane for this reason. That said, the PA 28 is a safe AC from my experience, very forgiving and easy to master. Thanks for listening. |
| El Tiburon User ID: 26857979 11/14/2012 03:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it... 20 of these tiny planes crash a day.... Some kill ppl some don't... As a matter of fact... If you fly less than 2,000 miles a year... You are just as likely to die from a plane striking you on the ground as you are to die in a plane crash. It's turtles all the way down. |
| Daersoulkeeper User ID: 1159767 11/14/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this was about as exciting as seeing the headline car crashes into house. Who gives a shit. This isn't news the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the TELL-LIE-VISION television when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision tell lie vision |
| Project_Deimos User ID: 1208235 11/14/2012 03:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piper Cherokee. Sounded like it was "running out of gas" right after takeoff. Probably the electric fuel pumps failed. Quoting: Project_Deimos I have been told repeatedly by experienced pilots that low wing planes are death traps. Won't find me in one. The Cherokee has an engine driven fuel pump with electric backup that you use on takeoff and landing. I love how you armchair pilots seem to know the cause of the crash nearly before it even happened. The point was - I'd rather fly a plane with a gravity fed system (172) than one ran off of pumps - for a personal privately owned piston plane. But what do i know - I just listen to the guys that have been flying longer than I've been alive. Last Edited by Project_Deimos on 11/14/2012 03:31 PM "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18030821 11/14/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of the blue I was thinking yesterday "what if a plane crashes into my house right now?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24179936 And now it actually happens somewhere. Crazy shit. Dude... Planes fly over my house often because we have a major pipeline going through part of my yard. Yesterday, a loud low flying plane was going along the pipeline for survey (happens atleast once a week) but all I could think about that time when I heard it was "what if it got louder and slammed into my house" And now, BEHOLD, this happens. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17930414 11/14/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piper Cherokee. Sounded like it was "running out of gas" right after takeoff. Probably the electric fuel pumps failed. Quoting: Project_Deimos I have been told repeatedly by experienced pilots that low wing planes are death traps. Won't find me in one. Just FYI The PA-28-161 has Both engine driven and electric fuel pumps (boost), and a L/R and BOTH tank source switch to the left of the pilot seat.. The engine driven pump is automatic, but switching on the electric fuel boost pump is a prime step of every procedure for the Archer / Cherokee. Also under the panel on the pilots side is an alternate air source (intake) valve should debris cover the cowling during climb out. The major issue with the PA28 is a flat spin, almost impossible to recover without a drag chute on board. Also should the fuel tank caps not have a vent, the tanks can become vapor-locked in flight and thus no fuel.. I always check for cap vents on any plane for this reason. That said, the PA 28 is a safe AC from my experience, very forgiving and easy to master. Thanks for listening. Also, a fuel sample must be taken from below the wing(s) for inspection and do remove water and debris from the tank during preflight. Also once the engine has been started, the powerplant is not dependent on the battery or electrical system as it is magneto driven and generates it's own power. Loss of engine power would only result in loss of the AI's vac pressure (backed up by an electrical turn and bank indicator and altimeter (basic partial panel training would allow a pilot to cope) Under VFR (i.e. clear enough to fly by sight out the window, this would be an emergency, but a good chance to walk away alive. General aviation can be hazardous but my main fears while in flight are : 1) Birds 2) Students 3) Students under the hood 4) TFR's and again.. birds. To be honest, I still feel much safer as PIC of a plane then in my car.. everybody, even students must demonstrate a minimum level of intelligence, physical health and proficiency, or be under direct supervision of someone who does.. the same can not be said of freeway traffic. GA gets a bad wrap, but its really much safer then your morning commute |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17930414 11/14/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piper Cherokee. Sounded like it was "running out of gas" right after takeoff. Probably the electric fuel pumps failed. Quoting: Project_Deimos I have been told repeatedly by experienced pilots that low wing planes are death traps. Won't find me in one. The Cherokee has an engine driven fuel pump with electric backup that you use on takeoff and landing. I love how you armchair pilots seem to know the cause of the crash nearly before it even happened. :fckd: The point was - I'd rather fly a plane with a gravity fed system (172) than one ran off of pumps - for a personal privately owned piston plane. But what do i know - I just listen to the guys that have been flying longer than I've been alive. The 172 is also a great airplane, but it can suffer from visibility issues when a conflict is from above.. (PSA 182) As for the ventilation on a 152/172, its hard to beat a huge window open next to you rather then the wing root louvers on the Cherokee.. lots of trade-offs to consider with each design but as long as the engine is running, you get fuel even if the plane is EMP'ed.. if the mech pump fails you have a electrical boost pump to land on.. its safe, id bet my own ass on it |
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